Joe Miller ... Teaparty Favorite in Alaska Handcuffs Reporter

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    Oct 18, 2010 10:35 PM GMT
    Joe Miller's Security Team detains and handcuffs reporter because he was asking questions

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    The reporter for the Alaska Dispatch has been doggedly pursuing a story on why Joe Miller lost his job several months after the attempted takeover encouraged by then-governor Sarah Palin. All indicators point toward Miller using the computer resources of his employer, the Fairbanks North Star Borough, to rig some sort of vote, and then clearing out the cache to conceal that fact.
    Tony Hopfinger, editor at the Alaska Dispatch and host of a US Senate debate scheduled for Monday evening, followed Joe Miller into the hallway after the debate to ask additional questions. At a press conference last week, Miller announced he would no longer be taking questions about his past.... saying the slate has been wiped clean


    1. Hopfinger had been trying to ask Miller questions when two or three guards told him to leave or risk being charged with trespassing.


    2. When Hopfinger continued to try to ask questions, one of the guards put the reporter in an arm-bar and then handcuffed him.

    3. Hopfinger was released after police arrived.

    4. The reporter was on public property where a public event was being held at the time of the incident.

    5. Miller has been adamant about his desire to avoid talking to the Alaska media, but no one in the working press in Alaska has ever before seen a candidate go to this length to avoid questions.
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    Oct 19, 2010 5:45 PM GMT
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    Oct 19, 2010 10:13 PM GMT
    Aha ...... No you Dihint icon_cool.gifOct 19, 2010 12:35 AM
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    Oct 19, 2010 10:28 PM GMT
    "guards" working for GOP Senate nominee Joe Miller forcibly detained and handcuffed a journalist as he tried to ask the candidate questions which he did not want to answer.



    It was also found out that these hired GOONS ........ and that's what they were
    WERE ACTIVE MILITARY

    Can you Freakin' IMAGINE if this were a democratic candidate and he stopped a reporter frpm asking embarrassing questions?????????

    The soldiers, Spc. Tyler Ellingboe, 22, and Sgt. Alexander Valdez, 31, are assigned to the 3rd Maneuver Enhancement Brigade at Fort Richardson. Maj. Bill Coppernoll, the public affairs officer for the Army in Alaska, said the two soldiers did not have permission from their current chain of command to work for the Drop Zone,
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    Oct 19, 2010 10:28 PM GMT
    GQjock saidJoe Miller's Security Team detains and handcuffs reporter because he was asking questions

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    The reporter for the Alaska Dispatch has been doggedly pursuing a story on why Joe Miller lost his job several months after the attempted takeover encouraged by then-governor Sarah Palin. All indicators point toward Miller using the computer resources of his employer, the Fairbanks North Star Borough, to rig some sort of vote, and then clearing out the cache to conceal that fact.
    Tony Hopfinger, editor at the Alaska Dispatch and host of a US Senate debate scheduled for Monday evening, followed Joe Miller into the hallway after the debate to ask additional questions. At a press conference last week, Miller announced he would no longer be taking questions about his past.... saying the slate has been wiped clean


    1. Hopfinger had been trying to ask Miller questions when two or three guards told him to leave or risk being charged with trespassing.


    2. When Hopfinger continued to try to ask questions, one of the guards put the reporter in an arm-bar and then handcuffed him.

    3. Hopfinger was released after police arrived.

    4. The reporter was on public property where a public event was being held at the time of the incident.

    5. Miller has been adamant about his desire to avoid talking to the Alaska media, but no one in the working press in Alaska has ever before seen a candidate go to this length to avoid questions.


    Yeah except that it was the security firm that called police because Hopfinger shoved a bystander while trying to follow Joe Miller into a washroom. Hmmmm...

    From the security firm that called the police:
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/10/18/joe_millers_private_guard_were_not_thugs__107618.html

    William Fulton, who owns the Anchorage-based DropZone Security, handcuffed Tony Hopfinger, the editor of The Alaska Dispatch, after he said that Hopfinger was “sticking his chest out and kind of pushing up against Joe” as the journalist pursued the candidate through the hallways of Central Middle School where the public event was being held…

    Fulton said that Hopfinger continued to pursue Miller and pushed another town hall attendee into a locker, at which point Fulton handcuffed Hopfinger and called the Anchorage Police…

    Fulton said that his private security company has been working with Miller since 2007 or 2008. DropZone security guards were on hand to protect Miller at the 2008 Alaska GOP convention when Miller tried unsuccessfully to oust state party chairman Randy Ruedrich, who famously resigned from the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission in 2003 after Sarah Palin exposed him for conducting partisan political activity from his state office and leaking a confidential memo to an energy company lobbyist.


    From another blogger at the event
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/joe-miller-handcuffing-incident_509191.html

    Given my experience with political campaigns calling the police on me and shoving me to keep me from asking questions, a few people have asked me for my personal opinion on the matter. So, let me stipulate: following a politician and asking the politician questions as he leaves an event is perfectly normal. On Capitol Hill, it’s what happens at the end of every Nancy Pelosi press conference and every Tuesday Senate policy luncheon.

    Common manners dictate that there are at least a couple things reporters shouldn’t do, such as blocking a candidate’s movement or following the candidate into the bathroom–Joe Miller accused Hopfinger of doing both those things. Still, you can’t justify handcuffing a reporter for this out-of-line behavior.

    But Fulton, the security guard, says that Hopfinger “shoulder checked” an attendee…
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    Oct 19, 2010 10:48 PM GMT
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    This isn't about who shoved who and who followed who into a bathroom........

    This is about a man who brought US Military and made them act like political GOONS ready to put people in HANDCUFFS because they didn't like the questions and the cameras that were there

    DID YOU SEE THE VIDEO?????

    Where do you think this is? Kosovo?
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    Oct 19, 2010 11:19 PM GMT
    GQjock saidAre you friggin' kidding me? icon_confused.gif




    This isn't about who shoved who and who followed who into a bathroom........

    This is about a man who brought US Military and made them act like political GOONS ready to put people in HANDCUFFS because they didn't like the questions and the cameras that were there

    DID YOU SEE THE VIDEO?????

    Where do you think this is? Kosovo?


    Hmmm... hiring security personnel who have ummm... security experience. Wow. Stop the presses.

    I don't suppose the decision to hire experienced personnel had anything to do with the death threats?

    http://www.care2.com/causes/politics/blog/christie-wins-in-tea-party-straw-poll/
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    Oct 20, 2010 12:24 AM GMT
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    GQjock saidAre you friggin' kidding me? icon_confused.gif




    This isn't about who shoved who and who followed who into a bathroom........

    This is about a man who brought US Military and made them act like political GOONS ready to put people in HANDCUFFS because they didn't like the questions and the cameras that were there

    DID YOU SEE THE VIDEO?????

    Where do you think this is? Kosovo?


    Hmmm... hiring security personnel who have ummm... security experience. Wow. Stop the presses.

    I don't suppose the decision to hire experienced personnel had anything to do with the death threats?

    http://www.care2.com/causes/politics/blog/christie-wins-in-tea-party-straw-poll/


    No, actually. Miller maintained on CNN that the security team was part of the requirements to rent the gymnasium, which the school district denies. In the language of the lease they asked that the hosts ensure no outside food or drink was brought in, and that there be a parking lot and hall monitor.

    Miller also hired the team to escort him around the Republican State convention. I believe this was before the primary and before his election as the Republican candidate.
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    Oct 20, 2010 12:33 AM GMT
    riddler78Fulton said that his private security company has been working with Miller since 2007 or 2008. DropZone security guards were on hand to protect Miller at the 2008 Alaska GOP convention when Miller tried unsuccessfully to oust state party chairman Randy Ruedrich, who famously resigned from the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission in 2003 after Sarah Palin exposed him for conducting partisan political activity from his state office and leaking a confidential memo to an energy company lobbyist.


    Ironically, this is the exact same unethical behavior Miller has admitted to in the CNN interview. (He has refused to discuss the behavior with ALL Alaskan state media, liberal or conservative outlets.)

    In regards to the shoulder checking allegations, the security personnel were unable to say who Hopfinger 'shoulder-checked' into the lockers. The APD have said there was no evidence that they or Hopfinger was checked, although it was clear Hopfinger had been forcibly put into handcuffs in what was an illegal citizens arrest.

    The City has said that they will no prosecute anyone in regards to the incident.

    http://www.adn.com/2010/10/19/1509238/no-charges-to-be-filed-after-sunday.html
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    Oct 20, 2010 12:38 AM GMT
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    riddler78 said
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/10/18/joe_millers_private_guard_were_not_thugs__107618.html

    William Fulton, who owns the Anchorage-based DropZone Security, handcuffed Tony Hopfinger, the editor of The Alaska Dispatch, after he said that Hopfinger was “sticking his chest out and kind of pushing up against Joe” as the journalist pursued the candidate through the hallways of Central Middle School where the public event was being held…

    Fulton said that Hopfinger continued to pursue Miller and pushed another town hall attendee into a locker, at which point Fulton handcuffed Hopfinger and called the Anchorage Police…

    Fulton said that his private security company has been working with Miller since 2007 or 2008. DropZone security guards were on hand to protect Miller at the 2008 Alaska GOP convention when Miller tried unsuccessfully to oust state party chairman Randy Ruedrich, who famously resigned from the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission in 2003 after Sarah Palin exposed him for conducting partisan political activity from his state office and leaking a confidential memo to an energy company lobbyist.


    From another blogger at the event
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/joe-miller-handcuffing-incident_509191.html

    Given my experience with political campaigns calling the police on me and shoving me to keep me from asking questions, a few people have asked me for my personal opinion on the matter. So, let me stipulate: following a politician and asking the politician questions as he leaves an event is perfectly normal. On Capitol Hill, it’s what happens at the end of every Nancy Pelosi press conference and every Tuesday Senate policy luncheon.

    Common manners dictate that there are at least a couple things reporters shouldn’t do, such as blocking a candidate’s movement or following the candidate into the bathroom–Joe Miller accused Hopfinger of doing both those things. Still, you can’t justify handcuffing a reporter for this out-of-line behavior.

    But Fulton, the security guard, says that Hopfinger “shoulder checked” an attendee…


    Well... now we know "the rest of the story." icon_biggrin.gif


    Nonetheless, no one in Alaska other than the Miller campaign is saying that the arrest was legal or necessary. Lt. Parker of the APD maintains that the arrest itself was not legal in the first place. According to the Lt., a person making such an arrest in Alaska usually identifies themselves and their association/authority to do so, as well as the charges. They did neither in the incident, simply telling him he had to leave.

    http://www.adn.com/2010/10/18/1507982/questions-surround-use-of-security.html