Dan Choi to join the Marines

  • metta

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    Oct 19, 2010 8:53 PM GMT
    He will attempt to
    http://www.cbs6albany.com/news/gay-1279504-discharged-marines.html
  • Menergy_1

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    Oct 19, 2010 10:17 PM GMT
    nope he was too old, headed over to the Army recruiter instead. (per a tweet I read from him)
  • metta

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    Oct 19, 2010 10:18 PM GMT
    Dan Choi being mobbed by the media at the Times Square Recruiting Center


    http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/17718/dan-choi-being-mobbed-by-the-media-at-the-times-square-recruiting-center
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    Oct 19, 2010 10:32 PM GMT
    metta8 saidDan Choi being mobbed by the media at the Times Square Recruiting Center


    http://www.pamshouseblend.com/diary/17718/dan-choi-being-mobbed-by-the-media-at-the-times-square-recruiting-center


    Of all places he chooses time square. Attention whore much?
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    Oct 20, 2010 1:30 AM GMT
    you are correct
    media WHORE
  • Mepark

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    Oct 20, 2010 1:33 AM GMT
    Ok this guy needs to get off TV. You can join and proudly, but announcing it? Are we going to get a head count from the media of every gay that joins and comes out in the military?
  • coolarmydude

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    Oct 20, 2010 6:26 AM GMT
    Geez people. What do you expect? This is one of the most significant events in gay rights history on par with Stonewall. It was his media spotlight focus that helped bring DADT to where it is now.
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    Oct 20, 2010 6:51 AM GMT
    Aw, people are upset because someone else is getting more attention than them.

    Seriously, people. When's the last time you stood in the face of rejection and adversity in front of an entire nation to advance a cause? Yeah, that's what I thought.

    This is an organization that has categorically exercised discrimination against gays and, in practice, say that gays are not good enough to defend our country. And instead of seeing this as a significant, momentous occasion, you cast aspersions to someone who is making a positive impact.

    Why don't we provide you, Mepark, with the headcount of all the gays who have recently committed suicide because of bullying? The bullying that occurs because they are seen as less than everyone else and a target of defenselessness. And suicides that occurred because they felt defenseless and unsupported. This "media whore" is helping to get us one step closer to acceptance and equal footing.

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    Oct 20, 2010 6:55 AM GMT
    More power to him, hope he doesn't face too many issues.
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    Oct 20, 2010 7:21 AM GMT
    EastCoastNAZ saidAw, people are upset because someone else is getting more attention than them.

    Seriously, people. When's the last time you stood in the face of rejection and adversity in front of an entire nation to advance a cause? Yeah, that's what I thought.

    This is an organization that has categorically exercised discrimination against gays and, in practice, say that gays are not good enough to defend our country. And instead of seeing this as a significant, momentous occasion, you cast aspersions to someone who is making a positive impact.

    Why don't we provide you, Mepark, with the headcount of all the gays who have recently committed suicide because of bullying? The bullying that occurs because they are seen as less than everyone else and a target of defenselessness. And suicides that occurred because they felt defenseless and unsupported. This "media whore" is helping to get us one step closer to acceptance and equal footing.



    No one is denying him credit for what he has done for the DADT cause. I think he was did was courageous and great and he deserves tons of credit for that. However, I am not going to put him on a pedestal and be awestruck by every decision he makes going forward.

    He went to enlisted in the army, cool, nothing significant since he is already out to the world. Enlisting in the army at the recruiting station in Time Square where the all the major media outlets are stationed and where there are always tons of people is when the attention whore label comes in. Given that he is in the spotlight, he should be a little more strategic on how he presents himself. He can hurt the cause as much as he has helped it. I can guarantee you that there are others, beyond this board, who thought 'attention whore' as well.
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    Oct 20, 2010 8:07 AM GMT
    Reminds me of when Dr. King performed civil disobedience where people would actually notice (how gauche). Ghandi too, that whole marching to the sea to make salt business, that was a total media circus. Eat a cracker dude, you're getting awfully skinny.


    AvadaKedavra said
    EastCoastNAZ saidAw, people are upset because someone else is getting more attention than them.

    Seriously, people. When's the last time you stood in the face of rejection and adversity in front of an entire nation to advance a cause? Yeah, that's what I thought.

    This is an organization that has categorically exercised discrimination against gays and, in practice, say that gays are not good enough to defend our country. And instead of seeing this as a significant, momentous occasion, you cast aspersions to someone who is making a positive impact.

    Why don't we provide you, Mepark, with the headcount of all the gays who have recently committed suicide because of bullying? The bullying that occurs because they are seen as less than everyone else and a target of defenselessness. And suicides that occurred because they felt defenseless and unsupported. This "media whore" is helping to get us one step closer to acceptance and equal footing.



    No one is denying him credit for what he has done for the DADT cause. I think he was did was courageous and great and he deserves tons of credit for that. However, I am not going to put him on a pedestal and be awestruck by every decision he makes going forward.

    He went to enlisted in the army, cool, nothing significant since he is already out to the world. Enlisting in the army at the recruiting station in Time Square where the all the major media outlets are stationed and where there are always tons of people is when the attention whore label comes in. Given that he is in the spotlight, he should be a little more strategic on how he presents himself. He can hurt the cause as much as he has helped it. I can guarantee you that there are others, beyond this board, who thought 'attention whore' as well.
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    Oct 20, 2010 8:29 AM GMT
    UrsaMajor saidReminds me of when Dr. King performed civil disobedience where people would actually notice (how gauche). Ghandi too, that whole marching to the sea to make salt business, that was a total media circus. Eat a cracker dude, you're getting awfully skinny.


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    EastCoastNAZ saidAw, people are upset because someone else is getting more attention than them.

    Seriously, people. When's the last time you stood in the face of rejection and adversity in front of an entire nation to advance a cause? Yeah, that's what I thought.

    This is an organization that has categorically exercised discrimination against gays and, in practice, say that gays are not good enough to defend our country. And instead of seeing this as a significant, momentous occasion, you cast aspersions to someone who is making a positive impact.

    Why don't we provide you, Mepark, with the headcount of all the gays who have recently committed suicide because of bullying? The bullying that occurs because they are seen as less than everyone else and a target of defenselessness. And suicides that occurred because they felt defenseless and unsupported. This "media whore" is helping to get us one step closer to acceptance and equal footing.



    No one is denying him credit for what he has done for the DADT cause. I think he was did was courageous and great and he deserves tons of credit for that. However, I am not going to put him on a pedestal and be awestruck by every decision he makes going forward.

    He went to enlisted in the army, cool, nothing significant since he is already out to the world. Enlisting in the army at the recruiting station in Time Square where the all the major media outlets are stationed and where there are always tons of people is when the attention whore label comes in. Given that he is in the spotlight, he should be a little more strategic on how he presents himself. He can hurt the cause as much as he has helped it. I can guarantee you that there are others, beyond this board, who thought 'attention whore' as well.


    Do you honestly believe that Choi going to enlist in the army, when it is currently legal, is as significant as MLK's civil disobedience that it deserves massive media coverage? Do we still live in a society where only the prominent and deserving appear in the media or people like snooki and the rest of the cast of jersey shore?
  • mynyun

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    Oct 20, 2010 8:37 AM GMT
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  • coolarmydude

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    Oct 20, 2010 6:16 PM GMT
    AvadaKedavra said
    Do you honestly believe that Choi going to enlist in the army, when it is currently legal, is as significant as MLK's civil disobedience that it deserves massive media coverage? Do we still live in a society where only the prominent and deserving appear in the media or people like snooki and the rest of the cast of jersey shore?


    You should stop while you're ahead. icon_rolleyes.gif You're making a mountain out of a mole hill.

    P.S. Have some more Choi!

    Dan%20Choi%20in%20uniform.jpg
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    Oct 20, 2010 6:23 PM GMT
    AvadaKedavra said

    Do we still live in a society where only the prominent and deserving appear in the media or people like snooki and the rest of the cast of jersey shore?



    The latter of course. It's called the idiocracy.
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    Oct 20, 2010 6:26 PM GMT
    Dan Choi has something that he likely had before West Point: courage, and follow through.

    Choi holds folks accountable for wrongs. That is a form of leadership. We would do well to have more folks like him.
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    Oct 20, 2010 6:35 PM GMT
    chuckystud saidDan Choi has something that he likely had before West Point: courage, and follow through.

    Choi holds folks accountable for wrongs. That is a form of leadership. We would do well to have more folks like him.



    YEAH!!! And have some more Choi!

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    Oct 20, 2010 6:58 PM GMT
    Go Dan! And do it in their faces! In the media, in Times Square!

    I've said it before that when Dan leaves this world, his balls should be bronzed and displayed at the Smithsonian.
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    Oct 20, 2010 7:01 PM GMT
    McGay saidGo Dan! And do it in their faces! In the media, in Times Square!

    I've said it before that when Dan leaves this world, his balls should be bronzed and displayed at the Smithsonian.



    Balls the size of his fists....one for each nut!!

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    Oct 20, 2010 7:02 PM GMT
    I guess those black kids that were integrated into previously segregated schools were media whores too.
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    Oct 20, 2010 7:04 PM GMT
    I think it's interesting that Dan isn't a white guy.
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    Oct 20, 2010 7:13 PM GMT
    pecmansd saidyou are correct
    media WHORE



    Srsly what the Hell is wrg w/ some of you? He was already Whore'd by our country. He is a veteran who fought for this country and was given the boot when he came clean about his sexual identity. What he did was honorable both his commitment to protect and serve our great nation and his public "coming out" which for some was inspirational. He on that stand alone has the rt to bring attention to his fight because if he was allowed to honorably where his uniform as a proud GAY American this would not even be an issue. Don't turn your back on him now.......


    *walks away DISGUSTED*
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    Oct 20, 2010 8:55 PM GMT
    coolarmydude said
    AvadaKedavra said
    Do you honestly believe that Choi going to enlist in the army, when it is currently legal, is as significant as MLK's civil disobedience that it deserves massive media coverage? Do we still live in a society where only the prominent and deserving appear in the media or people like snooki and the rest of the cast of jersey shore?


    You should stop while you're ahead. icon_rolleyes.gif You're making a mountain out of a mole hill.

    P.S. Have some more Choi!

    Dan%20Choi%20in%20uniform.jpg


    Yeah I've already given up after realizing this is like having a discussion with my 6 year old nephew:

    Nephew: "I LOVE ELMO."
    Me: "Do you want me to get you an Elmo doll to play with?"
    Nephew: "No! You can't get Elmo he is too big!"
    Me: "He is small like you. He just looks big on TV and the TV is big."
    Nephew: "No! Elmo is not small because he is cool!"
    Me: "Yeah, I know he is cool but he is as small as you."
    Nephew: "No way, Elmo teaches me letters, he is not small. You're small!"
    Me: "..."
    Nephew: "Elmo!"
    Me: "Ok. Want another cookie?"

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    Oct 20, 2010 9:06 PM GMT
    Haters gonna hate.

    I think the bigger picture is he is re-enlisting even though he knows there is a chance DADT could still stand and he would be discharged from the military for a second time. Discharged under DADT not once but TWICE, now that would be a sensation.
  • CarbGoggles

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    Oct 20, 2010 9:13 PM GMT
    Ehhhh.... Not really a fan of this guy. I def think it's beyond stupid that gays are held to any different standard than straights. That doesn't just go for the military but in general.

    IMO Choi is out to make a point. I feel like he's manipulating the military to meet his own personal agenda. I said it in another related post and I'll say it again. Don't join the military to make a statement. If you want to make a statement, go vote. When you join the military, people, your country, perhaps the world will come to depend on your skill, intellect, and ability to make sacrifices. The US military isn't the strongest military on Earth because we are all talk. This douche is bringing dishonor to his name and the US military by challenging the system.

    This in some ways reminds me of Cindy Sheehan...