I am alcoholic? Should I attend AA meetings?

  • alphatop

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    Oct 20, 2010 1:17 PM GMT
    I've been drinking a lot lately, every day, alone or in a group, outside and inside the house,morning till night. I am also on antidepressants, Prozak 100 mg, daily. Should I seek some help? I don't feel like alcoholic, its just that i drink every day...
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    Oct 20, 2010 1:20 PM GMT
    Definately see your dr. Esp, the one prescribing the antidepressants. Those should not be mixed. You're gonna wind up like Keith Ledger, if you are mot careful.
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    Oct 20, 2010 5:53 PM GMT
    antonomad saidI've been drinking a lot lately, every day, alone or in a group, outside and inside the house,morning till night. I am also on antidepressants, Prozak 100 mg, daily. Should I seek some help? I don't feel like alcoholic, its just that i drink every day...


    There are feel good mind control drugs, yes. Exercise will work well, too.

    Many years ago, I was busted for DUI, even though I wasn't near the car. (I was gay in Nebraska.) At any rate, I was ordered to 3 AA meetings a week for three years. For countless hours, I listened to drunk logs, and my heaviest drinking always came after AA meetings. (We had just talked about drinking for 2 hours.) For me, AA was completely the wrong thing. It wasn't until AFTER all those drunk logs, that I stopped occasional binge drinking.

    What I found in AA was some major fucked up folks substituting coffee and cigs for the latest addiction. For some folks AA helps, but, for many, it's a disaster.

    I know folks who drink every day, are overweight, never exercise, and make lots of money, and have health problems. Those folks would tell you that they're social drinkers. I think I would disagree, but, they're able to do well by some standards of measure.

    Other folks I know drink and turn into jerks. Clearly, drinking isn't the best thing for them.

    Other folks are occasional drunks and a great time and their lives are no worse for it.

    I think, as a general rule, if you don't like how it affects your life then you should be off doing something else: exercising, a hobby, burying yourself in your work, etc.

    In my experience, if you see an alcoholic counselor, they'll tell you that you're an alcoholic, or a ex pot head they'll tell you that you're a pot head, etc. Projection, it's called.

    I think it's something that only you can decide.

    If you don't like what drinking is doing to your life then change it.
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    Oct 20, 2010 5:57 PM GMT
    There are a lot of us here on RJ. I have been clean for 21 years, and did it with the help of my wife, but the bottom line is: you can't do it alone. so if you don't have a friend that isn't alcoholic, by all means give them a call....you've hit the first step in the road to recovery, brother. the future is in your hands.....IM me if you need to talk....Keithicon_cool.gif
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    Oct 21, 2010 1:22 AM GMT
    chuckystud said
    antonomad saidI've been drinking a lot lately, every day, alone or in a group, outside and inside the house,morning till night. I am also on antidepressants, Prozak 100 mg, daily. Should I seek some help? I don't feel like alcoholic, its just that i drink every day...


    There are feel good mind control drugs, yes. Exercise will work well, too.

    Many years ago, I was busted for DUI, even though I wasn't near the car. (I was gay in Nebraska.) At any rate, I was ordered to 3 AA meetings a week for three years. For countless hours, I listened to drunk logs, and my heaviest drinking always came after AA meetings. (We had just talked about drinking for 2 hours.) For me, AA was completely the wrong thing. It wasn't until AFTER all those drunk logs, that I stopped occasional binge drinking.

    What I found in AA was some major fucked up folks substituting coffee and cigs for the latest addiction. For some folks AA helps, but, for many, it's a disaster.

    I know folks who drink every day, are overweight, never exercise, and make lots of money, and have health problems. Those folks would tell you that they're social drinkers. I think I would disagree, but, they're able to do well by some standards of measure.

    Other folks I know drink and turn into jerks. Clearly, drinking isn't the best thing for them.

    Other folks are occasional drunks and a great time and their lives are no worse for it.

    I think, as a general rule, if you don't like how it affects your life then you should be off doing something else: exercising, a hobby, burying yourself in your work, etc.

    In my experience, if you see an alcoholic counselor, they'll tell you that you're an alcoholic, or a ex pot head they'll tell you that you're a pot head, etc. Projection, it's called.

    I think it's something that only you can decide.

    If you don't like what drinking is doing to your life then change it.


    Thanks a lot!
  • alphatop

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    Oct 21, 2010 1:23 AM GMT
    vetteset saidThere are a lot of us here on RJ. I have been clean for 21 years, and did it with the help of my wife, but the bottom line is: you can't do it alone. so if you don't have a friend that isn't alcoholic, by all means give them a call....you've hit the first step in the road to recovery, brother. the future is in your hands.....IM me if you need to talk....Keithicon_cool.gif


    Thanks! Cheersicon_smile.gif
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    Oct 21, 2010 1:40 AM GMT
    chuckystud said
    antonomad saidI've been drinking a lot lately, every day, alone or in a group, outside and inside the house,morning till night. I am also on antidepressants, Prozak 100 mg, daily. Should I seek some help? I don't feel like alcoholic, its just that i drink every day...


    There are feel good mind control drugs, yes. Exercise will work well, too.

    Many years ago, I was busted for DUI, even though I wasn't near the car. (I was gay in Nebraska.) At any rate, I was ordered to 3 AA meetings a week for three years. For countless hours, I listened to drunk logs, and my heaviest drinking always came after AA meetings. (We had just talked about drinking for 2 hours.) For me, AA was completely the wrong thing. It wasn't until AFTER all those drunk logs, that I stopped occasional binge drinking.

    What I found in AA was some major fucked up folks substituting coffee and cigs for the latest addiction. For some folks AA helps, but, for many, it's a disaster.

    I know folks who drink every day, are overweight, never exercise, and make lots of money, and have health problems. Those folks would tell you that they're social drinkers. I think I would disagree, but, they're able to do well by some standards of measure.

    Other folks I know drink and turn into jerks. Clearly, drinking isn't the best thing for them.

    Other folks are occasional drunks and a great time and their lives are no worse for it.

    I think, as a general rule, if you don't like how it affects your life then you should be off doing something else: exercising, a hobby, burying yourself in your work, etc.

    In my experience, if you see an alcoholic counselor, they'll tell you that you're an alcoholic, or a ex pot head they'll tell you that you're a pot head, etc. Projection, it's called.

    I think it's something that only you can decide.

    If you don't like what drinking is doing to your life then change it.


    This is helpful, thanks chuckystud.
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    Oct 21, 2010 1:41 AM GMT
    Hi,

    It all really depends on how much you're drinking... how often, and if it is making a negative impact on your life. From what you described, it sounds like you have a problem. It may not be a HUGE problem.... but its not really healthy to drink every day from morning until night time.

    Are you unable to do the things you normally do? Are you drinking to feel better? Have you thought about why you are drinking? When/if you've tried to stop or reduce drinking, do you find it hard to stop? If you answered "yes" to any of those questions... then you may definitely have problems.

    The fact that you say on your profile that you're bipolar and you are on meds for depression... is a sign that you might be drinking to deal with your depressive episode. When you aren't depressed, do you still drink as much? 100 mg of Prozac is a fairly high dose, and alcohol limits the effectiveness of that kind of Medicine.... so its not good to drink while you take it.

    The people on here are right... you need help if you want to stop drinking, so get the help you need. Let me know if there's anything I can do!
  • alphatop

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    Oct 21, 2010 1:57 AM GMT
    ZbmwM5 saidHi,

    It all really depends on how much you're drinking... how often, and if it is making a negative impact on your life. From what you described, it sounds like you have a problem. It may not be a HUGE problem.... but its not really healthy to drink every day from morning until night time.

    Are you unable to do the things you normally do? Are you drinking to feel better? Have you thought about why you are drinking? When/if you've tried to stop or reduce drinking, do you find it hard to stop? If you answered "yes" to any of those questions... then you may definitely have problems.

    The fact that you say on your profile that you're bipolar and you are on meds for depression... is a sign that you might be drinking to deal with your depressive episode. When you aren't depressed, do you still drink as much? 100 mg of Prozac is a fairly high dose, and alcohol limits the effectiveness of that kind of Medicine.... so its not good to drink while you take it.

    The people on here are right... you need help if you want to stop drinking, so get the help you need. Let me know if there's anything I can do!


    Actually, yes u can. Unlock ur private pics for meicon_smile.gif

    No, answer to all ur questions is NO. Its just that I like to drink. I am not depressive,as a matter of fact, I've never felt better in my life so far. I've been traveling like crazy, Europe and Asia, taking my meds each morning, and I like to pop pilsicon_smile.gif Kinda like I don't have to go to that drug dealer scum, I have my own drugs! And they work. If i want, I could stop now, but I don't want.
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    Oct 21, 2010 4:28 AM GMT
    antonomad saidShould I seek some help?
    If you think you need help, it's better to get it now than wait till you think you don't need it.
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    Oct 22, 2010 3:57 AM GMT
    If you're drinking everyday and taking Prozac, let me tell you this...the prozac is not working the way it should. Drinking causes chemical changes in the drug. If you don't believe me, quit drinking for a month and the change will be night and day. Number one rule in taking any anti-depressant is to stop drinking. The more you drink while taking Prozac the more damage you'll do to your thought processes. BTW, you are depressed, even if you don't know it.
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    Oct 22, 2010 4:15 AM GMT
    I just think it's great that you're even asking. You clearly feel that it's affected something in your life and you're not happy about it but willing to do something about it. That's great.
  • dfrourke

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    Oct 22, 2010 4:42 AM GMT
    I can't believe I am saying this, but I agree with Chuckystud on this one...

    There are two types of folks who have problems with alcohol: [1] those who drink a little bit every day, and [2] those that drink occassionally, but on the binge end of the spectrum when they drink...

    AA is interesting...I've gone and found it just fine, but AA is not therapy...it's a maintenance program based on abstinence for those who do not want to drink any more and are in the process of working out addiction issues or have already figured out what is behind their addiction issues...

    If you are looking to figure out WHY you are drinking so much...then AA isn't going to get you there...those of us who love it love the community, and the reminder of the messages in choosing not to go back to a life that wasn't working for us...those of us that hate it, usually don't subscribe to absolutes like abtinence or have problems with the "higher power" piece of AA or find it amazingly judgmental when one of us relapses...

    There are non-abstinence based programs that work with people who wish to cut down on their use rather than completely eliminate it...these programs can be a good start for someone exploring their using behavior...

    I've been told:

    1. If you think you have an addiction issue...you probably do.
    2. If you have ever felt you needed to limit your use...it could indicate a sign of abuse.

    As chuckstud said, it comes down to the question of "is your life manageable as it is, or does something need to change?" Only you [and I dare say those that love you can answer that question]

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    Oct 22, 2010 7:55 AM GMT
    Could you stop drinking tomorrow and not pick up the bottle until November?
  • alphatop

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    Oct 24, 2010 4:15 AM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidCould you stop drinking tomorrow and not pick up the bottle until November?



    Done! No bottle until November! I am going to HK to do some modeling job, and probably gamble in Macau! I cannot be waisted while modelingicon_smile.gif

    THANK U ALL GUYS!
  • ohioguy12

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    Oct 24, 2010 4:21 AM GMT
    I didn't read any of the previous posts, but I believe only you and your loved ones know if your an alcoholic or should go to AA...
  • alphatop

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    Oct 24, 2010 4:28 AM GMT
    ohioguy12 saidI didn't read any of the previous posts, but I believe only you and your loved ones know if your an alcoholic or should go to AA...


    Well, read some of the postsicon_smile.gif Btw, no family or loved ones
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    Oct 24, 2010 1:50 PM GMT
    antonomad said
    MunchingZombie saidCould you stop drinking tomorrow and not pick up the bottle until November?



    Done! No bottle until November! I am going to HK to do some modeling job, and probably gamble in Macau! I cannot be waisted while modelingicon_smile.gif

    THANK U ALL GUYS!
    Oh, VERY good point! I've only worked with one model who had been drinking before the shoot...never again. It was the worst shoot I've ever done. He couldn't pose for shit. He was even worse than my best friend at posing, and that's fucking terrible. icon_lol.gif
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    Oct 24, 2010 2:17 PM GMT
    why don't you try some "controlled drinking?" this is what's referred to as the great experiment. any alcoholic can quit for at least a while, but no alcoholic can control his drinking for any sustained period of time. i might also point out that you seem to have realized that your drinking is already posing a problem for you. whether you ultimately determine that you're alcoholic or not, it clearly isn't enriching your life. i commend you for having the insight to identify a problem and the willingness to seek a solution. i'm hopeful you'll do very well. as an aside, i'm in my tenth year of recovery from alcoholism and drug addiction. icon_smile.gif
  • alphatop

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    Oct 26, 2010 1:04 PM GMT
    sixxpack saidwhy don't you try some "controlled drinking?" this is what's referred to as the great experiment. any alcoholic can quit for at least a while, but no alcoholic can control his drinking for any sustained period of time. i might also point out that you seem to have realized that your drinking is already posing a problem for you. whether you ultimately determine that you're alcoholic or not, it clearly isn't enriching your life. i commend you for having the insight to identify a problem and the willingness to seek a solution. i'm hopeful you'll do very well. as an aside, i'm in my tenth year of recovery from alcoholism and drug addiction. icon_smile.gif


    Thanks buddy, this means a lot to me...nut if u go to topic that i just started SEX in MACAU, u will see that this problem never endsicon_sad.gif
  • aiko14

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    Oct 27, 2010 5:59 AM GMT
    accepting that you are an alcoholic is a BIG step... why don't you talk to someone "close" to you (i.e. family, best buddy, partner, etc.) talking to them would help a lot... and no that's not a false reassurance.... if they care... they will care