How do you get out of mediation?

  • rndale

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    Oct 21, 2010 10:25 PM GMT
    I am in a kind of living mediation. My mind is clear unless I have some input, auditory or visual, then I think out loud. Every act I preform, every emotion that I feel, is all I feel. I am in each emotion. Every taste, touch, glance is all that exists.

    Basically each moment in time I exist in that feeling, that conversation.

    The problem is that I can't find any reference to this, Buddha being the exception. That would explain how to come out of it, so any advice?
  • Abe13

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    Oct 22, 2010 12:43 AM GMT
    Generally you reverse how you got to that point in meditation.
    For example-If you start at 13 and count your breath backward to one and then focus on your breathing, the reverse would apply. Count from one to 13.
    Another way to reground and "settle" back to "normal" is to visualize a root going from your root chakra down to the center of the earth and grounding you back into your body.
    But to me, it sounds like you have achieved a level of mind that most people who meditate seek to aquire. A quiet mind is one step toward mastery of the mind and self.
    But that is just my 2 cents
  • swogdog

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    Oct 22, 2010 1:34 AM GMT
    Two things come to my mind when I read your post:

    The asshole in me wants to ask you "are you declaring your enlightenment, or hoping that that's what you are?"

    The nice guy wants to ask "and the problem with this state is????"
  • LifeByTheHorn

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    Oct 22, 2010 1:36 AM GMT
    The best answer will come within your core, listen...... just listen! We are also in this place to live it everything as spiritual. Even external things, like eating icecream or buying bus tickets , etc. It can sound incomprehensible to many, even needless looking things are part of spirituality, so maybe we do not have to be all holly, all mighty all the time! Just living and being in tune with it, would suffice! Just like a breeze caressing the leaves of a cypress tree....
  • camfer

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    Oct 22, 2010 1:43 AM GMT
    It sounds like you are experiencing identification with heightened thoughts and emotions, while overlooking what exists when the mind is still. I recommend looking at who you are when the mind stops. Thoughts and feelings come and go; they are transitory.
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    Oct 22, 2010 1:59 AM GMT
    Sounds like there's something else going on here

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    Oct 22, 2010 3:19 AM GMT
    Ehm, to the rest of the guys joking about this... this is not normal meditation... its a serious problem with the neurons in the brain the guy is experiencing...

    Have you been to the doctor for this? Have you been given any meds?
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    Oct 22, 2010 6:50 AM GMT
    In some cases, people blank out everything like this, except direct sensory input in response to emotional trauma, or physical brain injury. What you are describing though is very common in Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. The blankness, the empty mind becomes a way of disassociating with your life, with your mind, so that you avoid the re-experience of traumatic memory. Of course this could also be indicative of a traumatic brain injury as well. It could be caused my medications, drugs, etc. Your post lacks some vital information.

    Is it possible that the two causes I listed above would apply to you? Did this come about after prolonged meditation practice? Did this come about suddenly, or over time and when? What is your meditation experience like? On any meds? Any recent head injuries, blows to the head? Do you have any recollection of emotionally traumatic events? The more you tell us, the more accurate the answers could potentially be.
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    Oct 22, 2010 6:53 AM GMT
    Tazo995 saidSounds like there's something else going on here

    lolcat-funny-picture-found-pills-ate-eat


    Sorry this may be a serious topic here but that is just too fucking funny. lmfao icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Oct 22, 2010 8:08 AM GMT
    Typically, by moving to binding arbitrage..... mediation?icon_smile.gif
  • rndale

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    Oct 22, 2010 9:29 PM GMT
    YngHungSFSD saidIs it possible that the two causes I listed above would apply to you? Did this come about after prolonged meditation practice? Did this come about suddenly, or over time and when? What is your meditation experience like? On any meds? Any recent head injuries, blows to the head? Do you have any recollection of emotionally traumatic events? The more you tell us, the more accurate the answers could potentially be.


    1) it didn't come after a prolonged Meditation practice.
    2) I have no idea when it came about, I have only recently become aware of it.
    3) No, I only use Acetaminophen, (Tylenol)
    4) No major head injuries
    5) Several traumatic events:

    1. Raped in the scouts by my best friend in front of all my friends (who didn't help)
    2. Parents divorced on my 13th birthday, mother tried to run me over with a car
    3. Raped by room mate in college, while sleeping (found him on top of me)
    4. Raped in the Marines, while in Medical Rehabilitation: Reason why I left

    I have almost died several times:
    1. Fell off dumbo at Disneyland
    2. Fell into Grand Canyon
    3. Almost drought in Russian River

    I don't go to clubs, bars, out in general. A 25 year old virgin, with an IQ of 187.



    swogdogThe nice guy wants to ask "and the problem with this state is????"


    Because, when you feel pain, that is all you feel, when you feel sad that is all you feel.



    camferIt sounds like you are experiencing identification with heightened thoughts and emotions, while overlooking what exists when the mind is still. I recommend looking at who you are when the mind stops. Thoughts and feelings come and go; they are transitory.


    When my mind is quiet, I hear sound... To describe it as Energy, when electronics are near it sounds like when you turn your TV on, static sound. When electronics are gone, it is a genital humming pulse, a single perfect never ending um.
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    Oct 23, 2010 7:28 AM GMT
    Wow bro, that is a lot of traumatic events. Keep in mind that I am not a doctor, but what you're describing sounds like the dissociative states that occur with PTSD. When a person has repeated traumas, especially those of the same or similar type, they often go on to experience CPTSD, or Complex Post Traumatic Stress disorder. With this condition it is very common to experience these states, especially when exposed to high amounts of stress, things that trigger traumatic memories, and most often for reasons unknown to you at the time. What is important to know is that you aren't crazy, or screwed up beyond repair, what you are most likely experiencing is a completely normal reaction to an extremely abnormal amount of stress. I would suggest that you see a medical professional as soon as possible, a personal physician that can evaluate you and refer you, a psychiatrist, a psychologist, counselor, therapist. Just get yourself to a competent professional soon. I'm guessing there are several other areas of your life where you aren't functioning very well either. This will not go away without help. The longer you put off getting help, the longer you will suffer and the more of a wreck your life will become. I can't stress enough, that this is treatable, but, you need the advice of a medical/mental health professional to accurately diagnose and treat this or refer you for proper treatment. Things can and will get better, but not without some action on your part. Traumatic events like that generally cause complete and utter destruction of a persons life that only snowballs as time goes on if not treated. Best of luck with this bro.
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    Oct 23, 2010 8:03 AM GMT
    Considering the fact that one of the traumatic events happened in medical rehabilitation.... I can imagine the medical establishment itself gives you an abnormal amount of stress?
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    Oct 23, 2010 8:05 AM GMT
    rndale said
    When my mind is quiet, I hear sound... To describe it as Energy, when electronics are near it sounds like when you turn your TV on, static sound. When electronics are gone, it is a genital humming pulse, a single perfect never ending um.


    That is normal, there is residual noise everyone hears when there is no sound... just as when you close your eyes in total darknes you still see blotches of colour.... thats your cells who respond even when there is no stimulation, or neurons firing...

    I believe, but I would like if YNGHUNGSFSD would confirm that,

    O wait, I just read he's not a doctor icon_razz.gif Any psychiatrist-neurologists around???
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    Oct 23, 2010 8:38 AM GMT
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    rndale said
    When my mind is quiet, I hear sound... To describe it as Energy, when electronics are near it sounds like when you turn your TV on, static sound. When electronics are gone, it is a genital humming pulse, a single perfect never ending um.


    That is normal, there is residual noise everyone hears when there is no sound... just as when you close your eyes in total darknes you still see blotches of colour.... thats your cells who respond even when there is no stimulation, or neurons firing...

    I believe, but I would like if YNGHUNGSFSD would confirm that,

    O wait, I just read he's not a doctor icon_razz.gif Any psychiatrist-neurologists around???


    Dude if you have an IQ of 187 it sounds very unlikely that your mind is gonna be very 'quiet' at, any given time.

    And a 'genital humming pulse'? That sounds like 'vibrator' to me.

    I call hoax.
  • rndale

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    Oct 26, 2010 7:57 PM GMT
    YngHungSFSD saidWhen a person has repeated traumas, especially those of the same or similar type, they often go on to experience CPTSD, or Complex Post Traumatic Stress disorder.


    That actually makes the most senses, and by investigating it further one can easily see that this isn't mediation but, rather a constant state of dissociation (during which one feels detached from one's mental processes or body)

    Now I just need to get some help from a psychiatrist.

    Thanks everyone. Now at least I know what I have, dissociation
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    Oct 26, 2010 7:59 PM GMT
    rndale said
    YngHungSFSD saidWhen a person has repeated traumas, especially those of the same or similar type, they often go on to experience CPTSD, or Complex Post Traumatic Stress disorder.


    That actually makes the most senses, and by investigating it further one can easily see that this isn't mediation but, rather a constant state of dissociation (during which one feels detached from one's mental processes or body)

    Now I just need to get some help from a psychiatrist.

    Thanks everyone. Now at least I know what I have, dissociation

    That'll be $75, please.
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    Oct 27, 2010 7:48 AM GMT
    rndale saidNow I just need to get some help from a psychiatrist.
    Psychologist...psychiatrists prescribe meds. That's not what you need.
    A simple phone call to a good psychologist should take care of your situation.
    It doesn't really sound severe - just inconvenient. (although I could be wrong, so call soon)
  • rndale

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    Oct 30, 2010 6:36 PM GMT
    Out of everything I read, I have been unable to find a kind of Dissociation that is in a constant state, any thoughticon_question.gif
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    Nov 11, 2010 4:36 AM GMT
    It's definitely not meditation. You can't get "stuck" in meditation. As qualified as I think a forum full of gay gym enthusiasts is at diagnosing mental issues, you should really go see a psychologist.
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    Nov 11, 2010 4:39 AM GMT
    What he said ^
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    Nov 11, 2010 4:41 AM GMT
    shaag382 saidIt's definitely not meditation. You can't get "stuck" in meditation. As qualified as I think a forum full of gay gym enthusiasts is at diagnosing mental issues, you should really go see a psychologist.


    Uhm, a great many of these gay gym enthusiasts you mention happen to be doctors, psychologists and psychiatrists!!! What on earth makes you think just because medical professionals are smart, they would not be gay or go to the gym????

    This was a rather presumptive and incorrect remark from you...
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    shaag382 saidIt's definitely not meditation. You can't get "stuck" in meditation. As qualified as I think a forum full of gay gym enthusiasts is at diagnosing mental issues, you should really go see a psychologist.


    Uhm, a great many of these gay gym enthusiasts you mention happen to be doctors, psychologists and psychiatrists!!! What on earth makes you think just because medical professionals are smart, they would not be gay or go to the gym????

    This was a rather presumptive and incorrect remark from you...


    You must've misread what I said. I wasn't using "gay gym enthusiast" as a negative comment.. there's just a more qualified place to go when you're having symptoms of dissociation and serious trauma like this guy said he did.
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    Nov 25, 2010 11:58 PM GMT
    YngHungSFSD saidWow bro, that is a lot of traumatic events. Keep in mind that I am not a doctor, but what you're describing sounds like the dissociative states that occur with PTSD. When a person has repeated traumas, especially those of the same or similar type, they often go on to experience CPTSD, or Complex Post Traumatic Stress disorder. With this condition it is very common to experience these states, especially when exposed to high amounts of stress, things that trigger traumatic memories, and most often for reasons unknown to you at the time. What is important to know is that you aren't crazy, or screwed up beyond repair, what you are most likely experiencing is a completely normal reaction to an extremely abnormal amount of stress. I would suggest that you see a medical professional as soon as possible, a personal physician that can evaluate you and refer you, a psychiatrist, a psychologist, counselor, therapist. Just get yourself to a competent professional soon. I'm guessing there are several other areas of your life where you aren't functioning very well either. This will not go away without help. The longer you put off getting help, the longer you will suffer and the more of a wreck your life will become. I can't stress enough, that this is treatable, but, you need the advice of a medical/mental health professional to accurately diagnose and treat this or refer you for proper treatment. Things can and will get better, but not without some action on your part. Traumatic events like that generally cause complete and utter destruction of a persons life that only snowballs as time goes on if not treated. Best of luck with this bro.


    Apart from the PTSD diagnosis, I couldn't agree with YHSFSD more. There are a wide variety of possible conditions/disorders that your experiences could fall under, particularly in the dissociative class. I want to reiterate the importance of consulting with a few psychologists about your experience. I also wanted to mention that, although your mental state is atypical, it may not be useful to view it as pathological. It may just be who you are at this time. If you are finding that your mental state is negatively affecting your functionality and well-being, then it becomes important that you seek help.

    All the best!
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    Nov 26, 2010 12:15 AM GMT
    rndale said
    When my mind is quiet, I hear sound... To describe it as Energy, when electronics are near it sounds like when you turn your TV on, static sound. When electronics are gone, it is a genital humming pulse, a single perfect never ending um.


    I have the exact same thing, it's called tinnitus. While I would love it to have been caused by being enlightened, my doctor says it was caused by stressful situations and subsequent bad health.. VERY common in people with post traumatic stress syndrome. By the sound of it, you are experiencing tinnitus because of past experiences.

    Tinnitus is any phantom noise that is created by the brain when your ears are not functioning properly as an act to compensate. Many people experience it as a ringing in the ears after concerts or loud noises and may have to deal with it for all of their life. I have a hiss, or white noise as I call it. Much like the sound of a television when there's nothing on the channel.

    Sounds like you need a psychiatrist as well as an ear doctor.