A great video on CHIROPRACTIC care, this video will answer many questions that you've always had about this form of care and what it can do for you.

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    Oct 22, 2010 1:14 AM GMT
    Checkout the video boys, its very informative and visual


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    Oct 22, 2010 2:08 AM GMT
    Kinda weird that you posted this today, I was almost in tears at the gym today because of my back! I was actually going to look for a chiropractor this weekend. I saw a massage therapist about my back earlier this summer and it helped me out a bit, but there's definitely something else that's wrong. Any advice on what should I look out for when looking for a chiropractor?

    Definitely a great video, thanks for sharing!
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    Oct 22, 2010 2:19 AM GMT
    Chiropractors = Win
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    Oct 22, 2010 2:20 AM GMT
    MikeAP35 saidAny advice on what should I look out for when looking for a chiropractor?
    I usually talk to people in my local area (usually at work) and get a recommendation.
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    Oct 22, 2010 4:05 AM GMT
    MikeAP35 saidKinda weird that you posted this today, I was almost in tears at the gym today because of my back! I was actually going to look for a chiropractor this weekend. I saw a massage therapist about my back earlier this summer and it helped me out a bit, but there's definitely something else that's wrong. Any advice on what should I look out for when looking for a chiropractor?

    Definitely a great video, thanks for sharing!



    when looking for a good chiropractor, you want one that treats sports injuries in your case! These chiropractors not only adjust your spine but they also work on your muscles, in a focal "let's get to the root of the problem" way! when you work on the strained muscle and then adjust that area of the spine, the adjustment is more likely to hold rather than pop out of place again due to tight muscles pulling the joint out of place. It doesn't have to be a sports injury chiro, just as long as he/she also works on your muscles icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 22, 2010 4:53 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidChiropractors = Win


    YAY! Thanks, guys!

    Unfortunately, the video isn't something I would show to my patients because there are some things I disagree with, especially subluxation causing nerve interference through physical pressure on the nerve or subluxation as a source of visceral problems (such as the examples they give of liver dysfunction and heart irregularities).

    Immobilized areas do develop degenerative changes, though. That's been well-estabilished, so that's what I tend to focus on. icon_smile.gif
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    Oct 22, 2010 5:20 AM GMT
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    paulflexes saidChiropractors = Win


    YAY! Thanks, guys!

    Unfortunately, the video isn't something I would show to my patients because there are some things I disagree with, especially subluxation causing nerve interference through physical pressure on the nerve or subluxation as a source of visceral problems (such as the examples they give of liver dysfunction and heart irregularities).

    Immobilized areas do develop degenerative changes, though. That's been well-estabilished, so that's what I tend to focus on. icon_smile.gif
    I also wish the video pointed out that sciatica is a set of possible symptoms...not a diagnosis. I also wish I had known that before going to a chiropractor and making my back worse.
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    Oct 22, 2010 4:27 PM GMT
    FierceEyes said
    paulflexes saidChiropractors = Win


    YAY! Thanks, guys!

    Unfortunately, the video isn't something I would show to my patients because there are some things I disagree with, especially subluxation causing nerve interference through physical pressure on the nerve or subluxation as a source of visceral problems (such as the examples they give of liver dysfunction and heart irregularities).

    Immobilized areas do develop degenerative changes, though. That's been well-estabilished, so that's what I tend to focus on. icon_smile.gif



    I agree with you on its effeccts on visceral problems....not sure how affecting they are on visceral function.
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    Oct 22, 2010 4:30 PM GMT
    sxydrkhair saidMedical doctors = Drug dealers

    Chiropractors = Real doctors



    LOL cheers!
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    Oct 22, 2010 4:52 PM GMT
    sxydrkhair saidMedical doctors = Drug dealers

    Chiropractors = Real doctors


    Right, because chiropractors treat cancer.

    And pneumonia.

    And HIV.

    And broken noses.

    Nothing wrong with saying that imperfectly administered care from a physician is imperfect. But the range of ailments a chiropractor can treat is infinitesimally small compared to what medical doctors treat.

    Nothing wrong with saying that our medical establishment is rife with issues caused by corruption from pharmaceutical companies, the profit motive and deleterious insurance companies. But the answer is in legislation, regulation, not in vilifying an entire establishment that's been pressured to remain profitable by the backwardness of the U.S. health care system.

    Make it better, because you'll need it. But by all means let the chiropractors manage your vertebral mobility.
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    Oct 22, 2010 5:32 PM GMT
    In reviewing the video, the section from 5:31 to 6:06 is clearly claptrap.

    Most people seek a chiropractor for relief from back pain, and studies have shown chiropractic's demonstrable efficacy in this area.

    Vertebral misalignment severe enough to pinch a nerve causes acute, identifiable symptoms that both a physician, physical therapist and a chiropractor can easily diagnose and usually successfully treat.

    This video, however, is implying something along the lines of a "chronic" misalignment, causing some of the most extensive list of symptoms almost to the extent of organ failure that I've ever heard of. These claims are NOT upheld by studies.
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    Oct 22, 2010 5:44 PM GMT
    sxydrkhair saidMedical doctors = Drug dealers

    Chiropractors = Real doctors



    Most ridiculous post of the day.

    Chiroprators are not MD's, though many LOVE to be called doctors.

    Chiropractic care is not the solution. I've seen more harm than good come from these modern-day snake oil salesmen.
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    Oct 22, 2010 5:50 PM GMT
    sxydrkhair saidMedical doctors = Drug dealers

    Chiropractors = Real doctors
    Nope. Every medical professional has a unique benefit.
    The MD's can only prescribe drugs. They can't make you take them.

    Edit: Oh yeah, and it's the pharmacists who are the drug dealers. The MD's just tell'm which drugs to give you.
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    Oct 22, 2010 5:57 PM GMT
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    sxydrkhair saidMedical doctors = Drug dealers

    Chiropractors = Real doctors



    Most ridiculous post of the day.

    Chiroprators are not MD's, though many LOVE to be called doctors.

    Chiropractic care is not the solution. I've seen more harm than good come from these modern-day snake oil salesmen.




    Ummm, I believe YOU just took the award for most ridiculous post of the day there buddy....you shouldn't be so quick to generalize, medical doctors and all doctors of different disciplines can do great things in their field of expertise.
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    Oct 22, 2010 6:38 PM GMT
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    reppaT said
    sxydrkhair saidMedical doctors = Drug dealers

    Chiropractors = Real doctors



    Most ridiculous post of the day.

    Chiroprators are not MD's, though many LOVE to be called doctors.

    Chiropractic care is not the solution. I've seen more harm than good come from these modern-day snake oil salesmen.




    Ummm, I believe YOU just took the award for most ridiculous post of the day there buddy....you shouldn't be so quick to generalize, medical doctors and all doctors of different disciplines can do great things in their field of expertise.


    I dont think he necessarily said that Chiropractors cant do any good, however he did say that more harm can come from good from them. Ive been to a chiropractor who told me that his adjustments could cure my ADD, leaving me to not take my medicine. With an attitude like that, there can be some serious damaged caused.

    Also, while chiros do some good out there, many of them seem to be out there to scam people out of $$. I do know that frequent chiropractic care can lead to serious back problems, such as bone fractures and so forth. I find it safer to strengthen my muscles to readjust the spine, as opposed to forcing the spine into place.
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    Oct 22, 2010 6:46 PM GMT
    No, to say medical doctors = drug dealers while chiropractors = real doctors is the dumbest thing I've read in these forums today, and I've read a lot of dumb comments.

    There's not a single MD that I've known who has endorsed chiropractic care. Not one. Why? You figure it out.

    Note that I went to a chiropractor back in my younger days, and he did far more harm than good. My partner at the time went to one, too (he sold me on going to one in the first place), only to end up in surgery for a disc fusion. Yeah, chiropractors are just grand!

    sxydrkhair, why don't you go ahead and go to your brother when you're diagnosed with cancer, or ... shit, even to get a simple flu shot, and let me know how that goes.

    Get real, people.

    Chiropractors fill a niche. They're one of the perfect remedies for high healthcare costs and one of the primary beneficiaries of workers compensation $. The insurance co's and feds love chiropractors b/c they're far less expensive than MDs, and keep those with no real medical emergency from placing too much of a burden on the system.
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    Oct 22, 2010 7:05 PM GMT
    WOW, Sxydrkhair.

    You win the award of the century with that comment. That is by far the most ridiculous thing I've heard someone say and actually mean it.
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    Oct 22, 2010 7:15 PM GMT
    Chainers said Ive been to a chiropractor who told me that his adjustments could cure my ADD, leaving me to not take my medicine. With an attitude like that, there can be some serious damaged caused.
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    Aye, I personally have trouble believing ADD needs medicine anyway, I find that medicine is given like crazy, and my teacher-doctors have personally told me that medicines are over-prescribed for the plain and simple reason that doctors work too hard, are tired.. and patients want a quick and easy way out of the problem

    (talking about ADD... ritalin,.. that stuff became a black market commodity in local high schools, along wth marijuana when some of the kids ot diagnosed as such and given the drug, its basically just a form of "speed" I have heard)
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    Oct 22, 2010 7:19 PM GMT
    CHIROPRACTORS ARE AWESOME !!!They can work with your doctor to help heal you too. My chiro saved me from getting rotator surgery .And if the know Active Release techiques ,all the better .But if you want to chug pain pills or go under the knife ,then see a GP or surgeon .
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    Oct 22, 2010 7:24 PM GMT
    I think I'm absorbing some of the stupid being spread throughout this thread, so I'm leaving it.

    First it was medical doctors being the equivalent of Colombian drug lords, now it's chiropractors working with doctors to treat patients.

    Sadly, I'm beginning to believe all of this, so it's time to do some thread jumping before I lose anymore IQ points.
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    Oct 22, 2010 7:45 PM GMT
    amar_m said

    Aye, I personally have trouble believing ADD needs medicine anyway, I find that medicine is given like crazy, and my teacher-doctors have personally told me that medicines are over-prescribed for the plain and simple reason that doctors work too hard, are tired.. and patients want a quick and easy way out of the problem

    (talking about ADD... ritalin,.. that stuff became a black market commodity in local high schools, along wth marijuana when some of the kids ot diagnosed as such and given the drug, its basically just a form of "speed" I have heard)


    While I have to agree with you that ADD is overdiagnosed and overprescribed medicinally, there are legitimate reasons to use it. When I was diagnosed at 16, it was through talking to a therapist about my problems in school, since I was getting a 1.6 at the time. After a year of discussions with him, he contacted my PCP and talked to him about it. After getting on the medicine, my gpa shot to 3.5. That's a pretty substantial change right there. Simply put I wouldn't be where I am today with out it.

    I do disagree with children under 15 getting diagnosed. I mean, come on parents, your concerned that your 6 year old can't pay attention? Maybe the kid is just 6!

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    reppaT saidI think I'm absorbing some of the stupid being spread throughout this thread, so I'm leaving it.

    First it was medical doctors being the equivalent of Colombian drug lords, now it's chiropractors working with doctors to treat patients.

    Sadly, I'm beginning to believe all of this, so it's time to do some thread jumping before I lose anymore IQ points.


    I work with 4 different MDs who all refer to me! and we work great together. I think you may be thinking about a straight chiropractor, one that ONLY adjusts and believes that this can fix a wide array of problems. There are mixer chiropractors out there as well, like myself, these are chiropractors who adjust but also work on your muscles and rehabilitate you through exercises, for physical injuries this type of chiro can do wonders. Mixer Chiropractors work like physiotherapist except we adjust as well. The main goal is to physically rehabilitate you rather than just adjust you and send you on your way.
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    Oct 22, 2010 8:02 PM GMT
    reppaT said...it's time to do some thread jumping...
    Why do I wish I were a thread?
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    Oct 22, 2010 9:07 PM GMT
    Ok, I'll post here.
    By watching this video, what I saw was an elaborate advert. Moreover, the ad was pushing the idea that Chiropractics was basically the cure-all of most if not all, illnesses - just by manipulating the spine.
    To illustrate, this chart demonstrates this idea:


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    It was a concept thought up by Dan Palmer, occultist and founder of the practice, who by a spirit from "another world" showed the "hidden truths" about spinal subluxations being the bottom cause of all bodily ailments.
    It was a religion on exactly the same level as Christian Science, whose founder, Mary Eddy-Baker, taught that meditation was the cure-all for bodily ailments, which to her, didn't exist anyway. Let me give this true life comic account of a conversation between a Christian Scientist and her young daughter:

    Daughter - Mum, Auntie Maisie just called to say Uncle Charlie has died.
    Mother - No, dear. Know your Christian Science. Uncle Charlie only thinks he died.
    Daughter - Yes, and the undertaker thought so too, and buried him!

    Like Eddy-Baker, Palmer classed his practice a religion, and tried to gain Tax Exemption, which was refused by the taxman, and as a result, was jailed for refusing to comply.

    My running partner has been attending a Chiropractic for some time to see to a backache. He speaks well of him and he says that the treatment he received was "from the kindest and most professional man you could ever meet, and he sure knows what he's talking about." He then tried to persuade me to attend, for I too have back problems from time to time. I considered the idea.
    But what bothered me was that my friend had to keep on attending, paying a fee for each session. Then he did not suffer any other illness. But he does look to me that his backache subsided to a degree that he trains with me. (At the moment he's down with flu. Another symptom of a disjointed vertebrae?)
    Going back to the video, there is a lot of truth between stress and illness. There is even a term, Psychosomatic Illness which relates a sick body to a disturbed mind. Stress causes the Adrenal Glands (above the kidneys) to release excess adrenaline which causes the body to deteriorate.
    Now that is more scientific than religious-based massaging.
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    Oct 22, 2010 9:16 PM GMT
    Chiropractic is fine as long as they don't touch my neck:
    http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/chirostroke.html
    http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/chiroeval.html