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  • xKorix

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    Oct 22, 2010 9:01 AM GMT
    Hey guys I could really use some advice right now. I'm currently job searching and I'm looking for a specific type of work environment. I need a place that is very flexible, not too chaotic and where I don't have to deal with people constantly but a moderate amount of stimulation and consistent work would be nice(I worked in retail and my god, hours would go by with nothing to do O,0). I don't mind most kinds of work, but not really into the people focused customer service jobs.
    Another thing is I'd like to not be micro-manged or be in a place that is too strict, it just doesn't fit for me and I have hard time following rules which I think are ridiculous or controlling for the sake of controlling, I need to be trusted that given freedom, I will still do my job. I also don't want to be in place where I will be threatened or controlled by fear or any other methods if I were to make mistakes or if the manager was not satisfied with my work. I'm not a slave and I do not want to be treated as such and again I have a hard time responding well to such methods. I'd like independence and a moderate amount of control over my environment. This may seem like asking a lot, but to me, it would feel very comfortable and I would enjoy it greatly, these things sort of constitute my dream job icon_smile.gif The more I go in this direction the better.
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    Oct 22, 2010 9:17 AM GMT
    These are questions you need to bring up in interviews.
    Keep in mind an interview IS NOT a one-way street. It works both ways.
    The interviewer is checking to see if you're right for the job, and you're checking to see if the job is right for you.
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    Oct 22, 2010 9:22 AM GMT
    What kind of field are you looking at?

    What you've described matches fairly well to my job. I manage my own work the vast majority of the time and I'm given a lot of freedom as long as I get things done. I also have good support and if I do mess up I never get hauled over the coals, we just sort it out.

    The way I found this environment was that I worked as a temp here for quite a while so I had a good understanding what it was like. If you're not sure what you want to do, that can be a good way of sussing a place out and see if it's right for you.
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    Oct 22, 2010 10:02 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidWhen Paul is not incessantly licking his own biceps he offers words of sound wisdom and advice. icon_idea.gificon_idea.gificon_idea.gif
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    Oct 22, 2010 10:20 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidPaul hosts bicep licking soirees at his home when not traveling on the road for work. Please contact him for further details. He would like to hear from those of you with 16 biceps or bigger.
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    Oct 22, 2010 10:24 AM GMT
    The sorting hat says

    Gryffindor


    Just kidding.

    It is kind of hard to offer advice here. All you have done is describe an environment, you have not described your skills or what you bring to the table.

    From what you have said it sounds more like you are getting away from something instead of heading towards something.

    Any employer will want to feel as if you are adding value so its all about what you bring not what they are helping you get away from.

    You could probably find some career counseling either in person or online that might be able to tell you in very very very general terms the sort of field you could go into but that is no guarantee that your first job in that field will have the environment you seek. Nonetheless its a place to start.

    Also most careers will require that you put in your time at the start, so if you are looking for freedom from supervision or micro-management it may take a while until your employer gets comfortable with you and the way you do your job.

    I have interviewed a lot of people in your age group for jobs and it is not uncommon for them to have unrealistic expectations about their first job or how they will enter any industry.

    In some ways as the work place has gotten more casual and less formal I find that people overestimate their own abilities and their readiness for certain assignments. When senior management and junior staff become friendly its very easy for the junior folks to not see the difference between themselves and senior members of the organization. As a result they wind up thinking they should be ready for the same responsibilities as someone with more experience.

    In closing, find a good field and a good job but be ready for some of the negatives you described because that could be part of the process of getting more experience in your field.

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    Oct 22, 2010 2:53 PM GMT
    RJNewbie2010 saidThe sorting hat says

    Gryffindor




    I lub you.

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    Maybe try being a realtor? I think they work independently for the most part. The only thing is they have to deal with customers but I would think they are more mature and serious than retail store customers. When you're trying to sell something to someone time goes by really quickly. It is just not very stable right now but there are realtors that are still making a good living. You'll just have to be really good at selling. Goodluck with whatever.
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    Oct 22, 2010 4:37 PM GMT
    All good responses, and I agree with RJNewbie since I am a hiring manager and through out the years have interviewed several candidates....and their expectations of this Utopian workplace does not exist...each industry is different with its own regulations as well, and it will depend on what you can bring to the table and be flexible enough to grow and assume responsibility...you are already placing demands which would be seen as detrimental in the interview process, every place has rules...its called the 'company culture' and whether you abide or not depends on how long you last before they show you the door.

    What I recommend, since you are very young, is to do temp to contract through temp agencies...apply and they will send you temp jobs that they have available, you can then work from one company to the next, to see if its a match...you will experience the environment, the culture, and see if its a fit...if you do not like it after your temp assignment is over, you go to the next.

    I did when I was in your age bracket, went from cruise line industry, medical device company, insurance company, etc. It took me a while of what I wanted to do, what I liked to do and did not like to do, but even today of what I like to do....I deal within some micromanagement, etc.. you will find the good and the bad even in the best working environments...also start thinking away from a job, and think career...a job just pays the bills, a career is something I want to invest in, a company will invest in my future growth and education, etc.

    Good luck.
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    Oct 22, 2010 4:51 PM GMT

    Good luck man!

    I'm having a hard enough time finding a "job from hell"... let alone my "dream job"! haha

    Use any and all contacts you may have!
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    Oct 22, 2010 5:22 PM GMT
    xKorix saidHey guys I could really use some advice right now. I'm currently job searching and I'm looking for a specific type of work environment. I need a place that is very flexible, not too chaotic and where I don't have to deal with people constantly but a moderate amount of stimulation and consistent work would be nice(I worked in retail and my god, hours would go by with nothing to do O,0). I don't mind most kinds of work, but not really into the people focused customer service jobs.
    Another thing is I'd like to not be micro-manged or be in a place that is too strict, it just doesn't fit for me and I have hard time following rules which I think are ridiculous or controlling for the sake of controlling, I need to be trusted that given freedom, I will still do my job. I also don't want to be in place where I will be threatened or controlled by fear or any other methods if I were to make mistakes or if the manager was not satisfied with my work. I'm not a slave and I do not want to be treated as such and again I have a hard time responding well to such methods. I'd like independence and a moderate amount of control over my environment. This may seem like asking a lot, but to me, it would feel very comfortable and I would enjoy it greatly, these things sort of constitute my dream job icon_smile.gif The more I go in this direction the better.



    Try NOT to say all of that in your interview.
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    Oct 22, 2010 5:41 PM GMT
    A young newly graduated MBA was being interviewed for a job and the conversation went like this.

    HRM: So tell me what you are looking for in this company?
    MBA: Well, I'd like to start at no less than 100K per year, have a private secretary, a corner office and 3 weeks paid vacation per year.

    HRM: Well, that certainly isn't a problem. In fact we start our new execs at 275K, buy their first home, provide them with a company mercedes, and give them 6 weeks vacation per year.
    MBA: (breathless) YOUR KIDDING!!
    HRM; You started it.....

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    Oct 22, 2010 6:03 PM GMT
    Uh.. Being in India I am not much aware of the job scenario out there.

    I am working as a maintenance engineer in a refinery. Joined here as a fresher but now I am holding lots of responsibilities. I have my freedom to do what ever I wish, But again in-line with the management thoughts.. Its just that you own the small department in which you are working..

    This may not be the kind of situation there, but I strongly feel that if you do a good job and prove yourself in what ever job given to you, then you will be given responsibility. This feeling of ownership might help you do even better and at the same time your seniors/boss might give you more freedom as now they have more trust on you. Its simple, why would a company trust you unless you prove your worth??

    One basic stuff.. if you are caught under wrong job, you wont be able to do well. So may be brainstorm yourself to identify the type of jobs you would like to do. Then do job hunting...

    Now the rules.. I think these do exist in all environments.. The way those are forced on the employees depends on the management.

    Good luck bro

    Rajiv
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    Oct 22, 2010 7:17 PM GMT
    vetteset saidA young newly graduated MBA was being interviewed for a job and the conversation went like this.

    HRM: So tell me what you are looking for in this company?
    MBA: Well, I'd like to start at no less than 100K per year, have a private secretary, a corner office and 3 weeks paid vacation per year.

    HRM: Well, that certainly isn't a problem. In fact we start our new execs at 275K, buy their first home, provide them with a company mercedes, and give them 6 weeks vacation per year.
    MBA: (breathless) YOUR KIDDING!!
    HRM; You started it.....

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  • xKorix

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    Oct 22, 2010 7:31 PM GMT
    But yeah thanks for all your advice guys and I agree a temp agency would be the best idea.

    A young newly graduated MBA was being interviewed for a job and the conversation went like this.

    HRM: So tell me what you are looking for in this company?
    MBA: Well, I'd like to start at no less than 100K per year, have a private secretary, a corner office and 3 weeks paid vacation per year.

    HRM: Well, that certainly isn't a problem. In fact we start our new execs at 275K, buy their first home, provide them with a company mercedes, and give them 6 weeks vacation per year.
    MBA: (breathless) YOUR KIDDING!!
    HRM; You started it.....


    Okay so I guess asking for an environment that I feel would be safe and comfortable for me, is the same as asking for an obscene amount money for nothing? I mean if I'm gonna be there for half my waking hours I kinda feel it should be a place I feel safe and comfortable in, not threatened. I'd rather not wear down my body and mind with stress. And honestly money really isn't much of a concern for me right now. I refuse to own a car right now, I have legs. As long as I can afford the basics and my groceries, I'm fine.