BOTTOMS WHO TAKE THE SUBMISSIVE THING TOO FAR

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    Oct 25, 2010 5:54 PM GMT
    I had a bottom tell me recently: "I don't approach men, speak to men first, or message guys. My job is to look my best and show up..."

    Why do bottoms think that just because they are supposedly the "submissive" ones they want the other guys to do all the work when they first meet online or in person as well?

    Are they carried into the club on a throne with a tiara on their head as well?

    My mother always said: A closed mouth don't get fed...

    Is this the REAL reason so many Bottoms are single? Because they are sitting around and waiting to be approached by a guy who somehow psychically knows they are interested in them? LOL

    Where does the submission end?

    Do they also need to be fed?

    Told when to use the bathroom?

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    Oct 25, 2010 5:56 PM GMT
    Indy404 saidAre they carried into the club on a throne with a tiara on their head as well?

    Do they also need to be fed?

    Told when to use the bathroom?
    Yes, yes, and yes.
    Didn't yo momma teach you nuthin?
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    Oct 25, 2010 6:25 PM GMT
    Indy404 saidI had a bottom tell me recently: "I don't approach men, speak to men first, or message guys. My job is to look my best and show up..."
    Spoken like a true queen...LOL.

    Indy404 said
    Why do bottoms think that just because they are supposedly the "submissive" ones they want the other guys to do all the work when they first meet online or in person as well?
    You do realize that's a generalization there when you just say 'bottoms'. I tend to be a submissive bottom but I definitely do my share of work when it comes to meetings guys and then some, at least online. Now in public that's a work in progress. *LOL*.

    Indy404 said
    Are they carried into the club on a throne with a tiara on their head as well?
    Hee...only the true queens want to be treated this way, like the bottom you talked to.

    Indy404 said
    My mother always said: A closed mouth don't get fed...
    Yo Mamma never lied....*LOL*.

    Indy404 said
    Is this the REAL reason so many Bottoms are single? Because they are sitting around and waiting to be approached by a guy who somehow psychically knows they are interested in them? LOL
    Yes and no..*LOL*.

    Indy404 said
    Where does the submission end?
    Once the top leaves the bedroom.

    Indy404 said
    Do they also need to be fed?
    Only if the grapes are peeled. icon_twisted.gif

    Indy404 said
    Told when to use the bathroom?
    Only if the top bombed it moments before. icon_twisted.gif


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    Oct 25, 2010 6:45 PM GMT
    Yeah this Victorian Era gender roles crap is for the birds...These men who want to be treated like a "proper lady"...SMH

    LOL
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    Oct 25, 2010 8:42 PM GMT
    Hm, having seen quite of your "why" threads, Mr.Indy, I would like to remind you that when you meet an individual and that individual does something you don't quite understand, please don't think all people in that rough category are like that.

    "Why do gay men..."
    "Why do bottoms..."

    these aren't real questions. They are just generalizations. Relax.

    When you meet an individual who does something odd rather than generalize and ask RJ why ask them. We don't know why that individual does that individual thing.
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    Oct 25, 2010 9:21 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidHm, having seen quite of your "why" threads, Mr.Indy, I would like to remind you that when you meet an individual and that individual does something you don't quite understand, please don't think all people in that rough category are like that.

    "Why do gay men..."
    "Why do bottoms..."

    these aren't real questions. They are just generalizations. Relax.

    When you meet an individual who does something odd rather than generalize and ask RJ why ask them. We don't know why that individual does that individual thing.


    Individualistic basis. Where most people in general need to realize, that's the problem. The person, not the type.
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    Oct 25, 2010 10:44 PM GMT
    MunchingZombie saidHm, having seen quite of your "why" threads, Mr.Indy, I would like to remind you that when you meet an individual and that individual does something you don't quite understand, please don't think all people in that rough category are like that.

    "Why do gay men..."
    "Why do bottoms..."

    these aren't real questions. They are just generalizations. Relax.

    When you meet an individual who does something odd rather than generalize and ask RJ why ask them. We don't know why that individual does that individual thing.


    I got you bro...but this is just a message board... I think we all know that I don't mean ALL bottoms or ALL gay men...Whenever anyone else posts stuff like this I instantly assume they mean "why do a lot of people this this group that I, the original poster, encounters......." Then we chime in on our opinions or our own observations...Even from the title of this thread its clear that I'm referring to a certain type of bottom that is out there...If I were an elected politician on CNN generalizing poorly, then there would be cause for alarm...but alas this is just a message board and I try to create new threads to at least spark new conversation so we're not limited to constantly posting in the "The Guy Above You" threads...
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    Oct 25, 2010 11:54 PM GMT
    I'm sorry but stereotyping bottoms as the 'submissive' ones is as accurate as straight people stereotyping gays as 'queens'.
    Just because Im a bottom doesn't mean you are some how the man. Sexual preferences don't aren't a direct result of personalities.
    I see more older male 'tops' than I do bottoms... you might want to rethink your logic.
    Remember, we really don't need you for pleasure.. youre more of a human dildo. icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 25, 2010 11:59 PM GMT
    mnboy saidI'm sorry but stereotyping bottoms as the 'submissive' ones is as accurate as straight people stereotyping gays as 'queens'.
    Just because Im a bottom doesn't mean you are some how the man. Sexual preferences don't aren't a direct result of personalities.
    I see more older male 'tops' than I do bottoms... you might want to rethink your logic.
    Remember, we really don't need you for pleasure.. youre more of a human dildo. icon_wink.gif


    um...Sir re-read the topic please...I was referring to the bottoms who classify THEMSELVES as submissive and feel they should they should NEVER have to do any of the work when approaching guys...My view was that it should be 50/50...all of this seemed pretty clear in the topic from the title and the very first sentence...read the topic again and repost...thanks...
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    Oct 26, 2010 12:20 AM GMT
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    mnboy saidI'm sorry but stereotyping bottoms as the 'submissive' ones is as accurate as straight people stereotyping gays as 'queens'.
    Just because Im a bottom doesn't mean you are some how the man. Sexual preferences don't aren't a direct result of personalities.
    I see more older male 'tops' than I do bottoms... you might want to rethink your logic.
    Remember, we really don't need you for pleasure.. youre more of a human dildo. icon_wink.gif


    um...Sir re-read the topic please...I was referring to the bottoms who classify THEMSELVES as submissive and feel they should they should NEVER have to do any of the work when approaching guys...My view was that it should be 50/50...all of this seemed pretty clear in the topic from the title and the very first sentence...read the topic again and repost...thanks...


    The very definition of the word SUBMISSIVE is an indication of their personality, they prefer to be approached. They don't like being the aggressor.

    What about this is confusing?
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    Oct 26, 2010 12:30 AM GMT
    Posiden saidThe very definition of the word SUBMISSIVE is an indication of their personality, they prefer to be approached. They don't like being the aggressor.

    What about this is confusing?


    Submissive traditionally means bedroom antics (ie bondage)...but now its supposed to mean wanting to be treated like a woman in the Victorian era or some stereotypical submissive Japanese woman? That's taking it too fa...

    If they see a guy they are into but they don't want to give even a SLIGHT indication they are interested, that is lunacy...

    They should NOT have the right to them complain about being single, lol
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    Oct 26, 2010 12:39 AM GMT
    we have so many heterosexual females who act like that too, its more of a cultural conditioning. If they identify more with those females then they develop similar standards to them.

    me personally I'm more put off with guys with no backbones and who will open their arses to anybody.
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    Oct 26, 2010 12:59 AM GMT
    PrinceOfArya saidwe have so many heterosexual females who act like that too, its more of a cultural conditioning. If they identify more with those females then they develop similar standards to them..


    Right ask any woman and they will say they prefer to be approached. Some people prefers if their partners take the lead or the dominant role in the relationship. And it could have little if anything to do with sex.
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    Oct 26, 2010 1:02 AM GMT
    Indy404 said"they want the other guys to do all the work when they first meet online or in person as well?"






    I've never thought of it as work.....more like a hobby icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 26, 2010 1:06 AM GMT
    As a submissive bottom, I generally like the other guy to do the approaching/make the moves.

    That being said, I am still very friendly and approach a lot of guys, whether in person or online. However, in terms of taking it to the next level, I tend to be very meek. Probably because I dont want to offend the guy.
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    Oct 26, 2010 1:13 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidNot like I have much to contribute to this thread but:

    I am a huge fan of submissive bottoms. icon_twisted.gif


    Haha, ditto!
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    Oct 26, 2010 1:19 AM GMT
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    Oct 26, 2010 3:24 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidBut only in the bedroom. I am not into submissive personalities on a social level.


    EXACTLY!!! This is what I'm saying!
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    Oct 26, 2010 3:26 AM GMT
    Posiden saidRight ask any woman and they will say they prefer to be approached. Some people prefers if their partners take the lead or the dominant role in the relationship. And it could have little if anything to do with sex.


    Should I also hold the car door open for these men and pull a chair out for them and scoot them into it? Do these men also want me to hold their purse (or man bag) for them while they shop in Macys?
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    Oct 26, 2010 3:40 AM GMT
    Is it really a submissive personality or perhaps the idea they have self-worth enough to be pursued and choose when to give it up?
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    Oct 26, 2010 3:47 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidNot like I have much to contribute to this thread but:

    I am a huge fan of submissive bottoms. icon_twisted.gif


    But only in the bedroom. I am not into submissive personalities on a social level.


    God I want to know more men like you! Lol
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    Oct 26, 2010 3:58 AM GMT

    Just wanted to add, that my Lover whom people immediate assume is a dom top because he is 6ft 195 pounds of solid masculine muscle and im 5-7 and 160; we are quite a contrast - But i happen to be the dominant one. He bends over for me most of the time, im the aggressive one and more physical one.
    Though i happen to be versatile - through out my life bottoms large and small have thrown themselves at me, and at first i was unsure of how to percieve that - but then after a while i thought - oh wtf; just dive in. lol
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    Oct 26, 2010 4:01 AM GMT
    Indy404 said...

    Where does the submission end?

    Do they also need to be fed?

    Told when to use the bathroom?



    1. It ends where the submissive decides it ends. Or, when the dominant turns the submissive away.
    2. Eventually and possibly. However, I prefer my submissives to be relatively self-sufficient and to create value. In other words, I put them to work. Why should the dominant have to work when the submissive is there as free labor? But, they do need food or they get sickly and die. No fun there.
    3. Sometimes. It's fun to keep feeding a submissive beer or water and forcing them to "hold it" until they wet themselves. A Foley makes this instruction moot.
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    Oct 26, 2010 4:02 AM GMT
    Okay, I'm flipping the script on this forum.

    I'm not a submissive bottom; yeah I like to top. I don't like bottoming and yet 98% of the time I don't approach or initiate contact.

    No tiara wearing here and no I don't think I'm all that. I figure come after what you see(me) that is catching your attention.

    My mindset is that I have no idea what the other guy likes, so I'll sit back and see who's attention I capture. Why chase? If the person hits me up and peaks my interest then I'll engage him.

    Hmm-when I figuratively stand back and read the aforementioned, it sounds as though I'm a cocky mofo. I'm not, really I'm not.icon_lol.gificon_confused.gif
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    Oct 26, 2010 4:05 AM GMT
    Haha Im not like that at all. I see something, I chase it if I want it, but I see this submissive mentality everywhere. I am to independent to be waiting on anyone. I got shit to do. I am a firm believer of being a passive aggressor icon_cool.gif