CCIE

  • turbid2wenty

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    Oct 25, 2010 10:46 PM GMT
    Finally grabbing this bull by the horns, my CCIE (R&S) written exam is scheduled for next month. Anyone here every taken it and/or the lab?
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    Oct 26, 2010 1:20 AM GMT
    Have not taken the CCIE yet, but it's on my agenda. Not an easy exam to pass by any means. Good luck.

    How long have you been doing Cisco configurations? Are you taking it based on experience or based on book study?
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    Oct 26, 2010 1:26 AM GMT
    I actually had to google that. I'm so out of touch with all the certs that are offered now. Is the CCNA still worth anything?
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    Oct 26, 2010 1:51 AM GMT
    xrichx saidI actually had to google that. I'm so out of touch with all the certs that are offered now. Is the CCNA still worth anything?


    Kinda hard to say honestly...there's a new one, CCENT, which is the equivalent of passing one of the exams of the 2-part CCNA. Also, CCIE is no longer the highest...there's CCAr, and from the looks of it, Cisco doesn't even know what it means yet, nor how to award it.
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    Oct 26, 2010 1:55 AM GMT
    Global_Citizen saidHave not taken the CCIE yet, but it's on my agenda. Not an easy exam to pass by any means. Good luck.

    How long have you been doing Cisco configurations? Are you taking it based on experience or based on book study?


    Thanks! It's pretty intimidating...LOTS of material covered. To think that the reward for passing the written is a(n even harder) lab exam...

    Been doing network engineering (as a consultant) for about 6 years now, mostly mid-market customers. There's a lot of material covered that I don't see on a daily basis. Example: I'd spent a few hours in my home lab tonight going over some route-map configs, and it's cryptic how Cisco will say that IS-IS isn't covered on the exam, but will show examples of how to redistribute from IS-IS to OSPF...sigh. Silly Cisco.

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    Oct 26, 2010 2:01 AM GMT
    xrichx saidI actually had to google that. I'm so out of touch with all the certs that are offered now. Is the CCNA still worth anything?

    A CCNA is still very relevant. I do have doubts about the CCENT though. It seems like a watered down Cisco cert to me, sort of the equivalent of a CompTIA A+ and Network+ combined. It has its place, but to me it sort of weakens the Cisco cert credibility.

    The CCNA, CCNP, and CCIE will probably always have merit in the job market though.

    Lately though, I think Cisco is in danger of going the route of Microsoft certs by segmenting their certs the way they seem to be. They are taking a mutli-track approach to the CCNP, doing a routing and switching track and a VoIP track, among others. Microsoft's MCITP has so many tracks you need to cheat sheet to know just what is offered these days. Seriously, there are probably 20 different flavors of the MCITP cert. Everything from Exchange, MySQL, Server 2008 Admin, Enterprise Admin, Server IIS Admin, etc. It's ridiculous.

    Then they have the MCTS certs. There are probably 80-100 different varieties of the MCTS, literally. It used to be if you had a certification (say MCSE or MCSA) people instantly knew what you were qualified in. Now, if you say you have an MCTS or MCITP, an HR person/hiring manager/recruiter has to boil it down to the specific variety of the cert you have.
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    Oct 26, 2010 2:14 AM GMT
    turbid2wenty said
    Been doing network engineering (as a consultant) for about 6 years now, mostly mid-market customers. There's a lot of material covered that I don't see on a daily basis. Example: I'd spent a few hours in my home lab tonight going over some route-map configs, and it's cryptic how Cisco will say that IS-IS isn't covered on the exam, but will show examples of how to redistribute from IS-IS to OSPF...sigh. Silly Cisco.


    Well, as I said, I haven't taken the CCIE exam but when the day comes that I do, it will only be after I'm completely familiar with every configuration and protocol that's used by Cisco gear in any environment. That means BGP, GRE, RIP, OSPF, EIGRP, ACLs, VPNs, Frame Relay, Spanning Tree, Trunking, VLAN and VTP, subnetting A/B/C class networks, and the implementation of Metro-E, MPLS, VPLS, fiber, etc. that's being used today. It's a pretty tall order and very few people have the opportunity to work with all of these environments.
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    Oct 26, 2010 2:15 AM GMT
    Global_Citizen said
    A CCNA is still very relevant. I do have doubts about the CCENT though. It seems like a watered down Cisco cert to me, sort of the equivalent of a CompTIA A+ and Network+ combined.


    CCENT is just 640-822 (ICND1), which I believe is the more design-oriented of the 2...
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    Oct 26, 2010 2:19 AM GMT
    turbid2wenty said
    Global_Citizen said
    A CCNA is still very relevant. I do have doubts about the CCENT though. It seems like a watered down Cisco cert to me, sort of the equivalent of a CompTIA A+ and Network+ combined.


    CCENT is just 640-822 (ICND1), which I believe is the more design-oriented of the 2...

    I don't know if it's more design oriented (Cisco actually has a network design cert now also, the CCDP) but it's the most basic. Most people who have worked in networking for a year or two could pass the ICND1 test. There is a lot of overlap with the ICND2 test, but #2 gets more in depth into VLAN, VTP, Trunking, and advanced (ISP and NOC oriented) routing protocols like BGP.