Is this a normal straight guy friendship?

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    Oct 26, 2010 4:00 AM GMT
    So I've been in love with my best friend for about 10 years. We talk on average for about 30 minutes a day. I'm clearly into guys. He's had a girlfriend in college for about a year and has hooked up occassionally. But, recently he's has gone through a drought and hasn't hooked up in about 2 years. He's a great looking guy and if I were him and straight I would be with a girl every weekend. He doesn't even try anymore...

    We wrestle in our briefs about once a week which he initiates. He also initiates showering after workouts. Not out, but was wondering if it's time to tell him? Any thoughts? And is this normal?
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    Oct 26, 2010 4:02 AM GMT
    I see this more and more from so called 'straight' guys but brother, in my day any one who wrestled with another guy in his underwear was looking for more than a pin.....just my opinion..............Keithicon_cool.gif
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    Oct 26, 2010 4:18 AM GMT
    So, what I gather is that he thinks you're straight, and you think he's straight.

    See my post at:
    http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/1202020

    The approach can be modified to determine if your buddy is in love with you so that either:
    1. The both of you can get over the deadlock and fuck already. Or,
    2. You can realize that your friend really is straight and get over any fantasy that you may have been harboring for 10 whole years in regards to knowing him in the biblical sense.

    Someone's gotta break the deadlock and venture some trust.
    Just remember that what's at stake is a friendship.

    Either way, do something.
  • Ritournelle

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    Oct 26, 2010 5:52 AM GMT
    Ask him if he would like to help you produce Chitty Chitty Gang Bang, invites some friends over, and call it a day.
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    Oct 26, 2010 5:57 AM GMT
    How does one initiate wrestling in briefs? Do you guys hang out together in your underwear? Seriously, I'm curious. Either way, I don't think that could be considered straight behavior by any means.
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    Oct 26, 2010 9:29 AM GMT
    i have plenty of stright friends and we never have done that. well one friend and i did and now he came out. so i would just ask him and see what he says.
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    Oct 26, 2010 1:06 PM GMT
    KardioKing saidHow does one initiate wrestling in briefs? Do you guys hang out together in your underwear? Seriously, I'm curious. Either way, I don't think that could be considered straight behavior by any means.



    Ditto!icon_confused.gif
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    Oct 26, 2010 1:51 PM GMT
    Well a couple of times he's walked into my apartment and stripped down to his breifs and told me to do the same.... Keep in mind he's an MMA fighter, but he knows I suck at fighting so I take it as erotic for him.
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    Oct 26, 2010 1:59 PM GMT
    Sounds like he's hoping you'll be his first...
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    Oct 26, 2010 2:09 PM GMT
    athletecarolina saidNot out, but was wondering if it's time to tell him?
    Nope. It's time to follow Nike's advice: Don't tell, "Just do it!"
  • rnch

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    Oct 26, 2010 2:12 PM GMT
    does he pop wood while ya'll are wrestling?
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    Oct 26, 2010 2:24 PM GMT
    rnch saiddoes he pop wood while ya'll are wrestling?

    Yeah that's what I want to know icon_lol.gif

    Most straight guys would not suggest stripping down to your briefs to wrestle. It's common for male friends to wrestle, but usually not in undies icon_razz.gif

    By the way, I can't blame him. Wrestling with you would be HOT!
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    Oct 26, 2010 2:37 PM GMT
    athletecarolina saidWell a couple of times he's walked into my apartment and stripped down to his breifs and told me to do the same.... Keep in mind he's an MMA fighter, but he knows I suck at fighting so I take it as erotic for him.


    Is saying anything to him an option?

    i.e. what are your feelings for me?

    Does he know you are gay?
  • LJay

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    Oct 26, 2010 2:49 PM GMT
    I'd be willing to bet that he knows you are gay. He probably doesn't care. Why don't you just cut the suspense and ask him if he has ever considered sex with guys?
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 26, 2010 2:52 PM GMT
    athletecarolina said
    We wrestle in our briefs about once a week which he initiates.



    Damn! Why don't any of MY straight friends ask to wrestle in their underwear with me? icon_cry.gif
  • rnch

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    Oct 26, 2010 2:54 PM GMT
    wayyyyyyy back when i was 19 (and deep in the closet), my best friend moved in with me (and my parents) for about 8 months.

    we shared my bedroom, girl friends and clothes. more than once we stayed up until dawn, just talking and confiding in each other.

    we had underwear only wrestling matches several times.

    these wrestling matches often ended abruptly as i jumped under the covers to hide my throbbing blue steel boners.

    yet another hint that i was not str8..... icon_lol.gif
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    Oct 26, 2010 2:56 PM GMT
    My experience has been that when I've told my close friends that I'm actually into guys they say they're not that surprised. They put clues together from the day y'all meet, so your brief-wrestling friend may not be too shocked. I've also discovered that many "straight" men still at minimum have thoughts of being with another guy at some points in their lives. Most probably won't act on that curiosity out of fear of being labeled as gay. What I'm getting at is that one, your friend may already know you're into dudes and two, he may be okay with that. I don't know too many straight guys that wrestle once a week with the same guy in their briefs. Good luck.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 26, 2010 3:00 PM GMT
    kreigh2 saidI don't know too many straight guys that wrestle once a week with the same guy in their briefs. Good luck.



    EXACTLY! This is a closet door screaming to be walked out of icon_lol.gif
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    Oct 26, 2010 3:23 PM GMT
    Be a man and make the first move. Your friend is hella gay but needs your help to come out. Don't start with a kiss tho. Start with a shoulder massage then hug from the back. Take it slow and if he is groovin on your attention slide your hand down the front of his jeans and rub his junk. Hope you have a beautiful first time with him.
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    Oct 26, 2010 3:30 PM GMT
    Proceed with caution, he may be this comfortable with you because HE THINKS YOU'RE STRAIGHT.

    How about asking if he wrestles with any of his gay buddies? See what he says. If it's a favourable reply then you could tell him you're gay.

    -Doug

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    Oct 26, 2010 3:34 PM GMT
    Or just have RJ open when he comes over next time!
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    Oct 26, 2010 3:46 PM GMT
    yup, totally normal. sometimes me and my straight friends jerk each other off after our weekly underwear wrestling or just all out have sex with each other. ;)

    he might be a little sensitive on the topic so i would be careful how you tell him, if you decide to do so. he sounds gay to me..
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    Oct 26, 2010 3:50 PM GMT
    KardioKing saidHow does one initiate wrestling in briefs? Do you guys hang out together in your underwear? Seriously, I'm curious. Either way, I don't think that could be considered straight behavior by any means.


    Wrestling in underwear does not make a gay guy. When you're in the military there's very little privacy and everyone sees you naked all the time. You even shower together with other dudes and we sometimes get playful (towel smacks, wedgies, whatever). That stuff is just normal cuz you know the guys and ur pretty relaxed. Doesn't mean they're all gay. Sometimes there's wrestling too when people are bored. Usually shirtless or in shorts cuz it's just easier to wrestle that way. I wouldn't say the guy is gay because he wants to wrestle in underwear. I know it may seem like a homoerotic wet dream for most of you but really it's just not a big of a deal, especially if he trains in MMA seriously. The culture is just different. Most ppl don't understand it. I get why gay guys fantasize over this stuff but it's cuz they just don't get it.
    In sports or other activities with lots of strong guys and testosterone flowing, dudes will always be messing around in ways that seem sexual but arent'. Like players smakcing each other asses or kissing after scoring a try/goal. I ve had str8 friends grab my junk or ass regularly and it's no big deal either. I know for sure some are not gay. But you can always tell the ones who want some dick from the ones who just play around...lol.

    I disagree with guys on here saying ur bud is gay for sure or that he just doesnt wanna come out. I mean it could be that hes gay but just from the wrestling or showering you can't form that opinion. Just talk to him. if he knows you're gay and he is too, maybe that will let him know it's ok to do something. but dont expect him to be all over this shit. it could be that this is all in ur head.
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    Oct 26, 2010 3:51 PM GMT
    If you're not out, how can you clearly be into guys?
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    Oct 26, 2010 4:25 PM GMT
    My old roommate was the same way. He would always come out of the shower in a towel and lotion himself in front of me. Would always sit really close, compliment my looks, cook for me, ext. I think some straight guys just love the attention we give them, they like having that power over us.