So i ran across from pictures from over a year ago, and 2 years ago.. discouraging

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    Oct 27, 2010 2:03 AM GMT
    I have been working out hard, and getting a lot of protein... and I havent been 100% the whole time, but I do workout at leaast 4x a week (6 right now). I can't see much a difference from then and now.. its pretty discouraging. I guess I am about 5-8lbs heavier, and I am definitely stronger than I was bench is up like 70lbs I guess and a little more toned than I was back then... but this seems like very little to accomplish in 2 years? thoughts?

    Up until I saw this I was feeling really good about my progress haha.
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    Oct 27, 2010 2:34 AM GMT
    Depends. What are your goals? And how do you measure your progress? I've weighed the same for the past 3 or 4 years. But I've dropped some body fat and gained some mass. It's not very obvious when I look in the mirror but I can feel it when I put my clothes on. My old dress shirts are a little tighter and my pants waist is a little looser.
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    Oct 28, 2010 4:40 PM GMT
    Eat more
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    Oct 28, 2010 5:13 PM GMT
    Hard to say why. You can "workout" everyday and not see any gains if you're not doing things correctly and/or enough reps etc. That's what I see the problem being with over 90% of the guys at the gym I go to and have noticed. Especially the guys in your age bracket. Certainly I'm far from a perfect specimen but I've had noticeably great results over the past year I'm happy with. I'm hyper diligent ensuring that I complete enough of each exercise. I do even more reps now in the past couple of months from the information I got here about higher reps, less weight and the harping to EAT etc... a la Chuck... and you know it has worked great for me.
    I think the eating part is the most difficult part but I force myself

    For example in the past I would do say 3 sets of 10 various types of bicep curls, using an EZ curl mainly but now I mix it up with that and dumbells etc and I now pyramid them up or down and never do less than 80 even if those last ones are quite lightweight I'm pumping them out.

    Plus I also augment the free weights with the machines everytime, every visit, chest press, delt machine etc depending on what I'm doing that day. Seems like a lot of guys eschew using them probably because "they heard" some bullshit or other from somebody somewhere who heard something..and these are the same guys that haven't changed at all in the past year. They come in, they go to a bench and do a few reps (usually with some weight that is absurdly too much just to show they can do perhaps 2), yap, get up walk to another area,, do a few, maybe two sets if that,, off to something else.. yap some more or sit doing nothing.. fill in the hour and leave thinking they've had a good workout when the reality is they didn't do much at all.
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    Oct 28, 2010 5:18 PM GMT
    Yeah. Not being "100%" quickly bites you in the ass.
    Consistency is really key (modulo planned time off for recovery & cycling).
    Anyway. Sounds like time for a new workout & nutrition plan! It'll be fun! icon_biggrin.gif

    Seriously, the difference between one more and one less day a week is actually pretty huge. And, of course, just showing up isn't enough. Some people (and I think we've mostly all had those days) just show up and do something, but aren't pushing themselves and aren't organized.

    Anyway, you're in good shape to make some more gains. Off-hand, looking at you, getting nutrition in line is probably going to be key.

    Just my 10 cents. (That's right mothafucka, my opinion is worth 5x as much as your cheapo 2 cent opinions. Whatcha gonna do about it?!)
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    Oct 28, 2010 5:39 PM GMT
    Don't feel bad, I look at pictures of me from 2 and 3 years ago and I was around 140 pounds. Then I look in the mirror and immediately see any bit of fat on my stomach. It's hard. Then I force myself to realize that I looked like a twink back then...and now I stopped trimming, packed on a bit of muscle and don't look like a 12 year old!

    Stop beating yourself up!
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    Oct 28, 2010 5:51 PM GMT
    The body generally has a limit. You may have reached it and now can only maintain. But you are stronger, so apparently you have improved. Why do you want to be bigger? I think you look really good.
    Like others said, eat more if you want to be bigger.
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    Oct 28, 2010 5:56 PM GMT
    Handsome, sexy man, why you hatin' on yo' self? You look fiiiiiiiine.

    But if you want out of this plateau, seek professional help. A trainer is going to help you move further. Hope you can get one!
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    Oct 28, 2010 9:22 PM GMT
    I talked to a couple people about it beyond this thread, kind of forgot about it, but the conclusion was that it's probably more due to my age and I'll probably hit more of a growth period in the next couple years.. my diet in the previous couple years wasn't great though eating college campus food that's also a contributing factor.

    Yeah I've definitely improved, I guess I just figured after a couple years it would be more. I switch my routines up that I make myself every couple months, and mix up the sets/reps a lot. If I'm feeling heavy ill do 5x5, or if it want a more of an endurance deal I'll go 4x10. I also swim and run pretty regularly.

    Ha, I guess I'll just redouble my efforts and watch my diet more closely. I slack on the weekends working at a pizza place.

    For the above dude, my goal is to be around 200 and real cut.
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    Nov 10, 2010 11:28 PM GMT
    what are your goals buddy? Do u want to maintain ur shape/ size or increase mass etc....some guys just want to stay in shape..they dont want their weight / fat to increase over time so workout to keep trim rather than build mass

    pesonally I have grown in size, added muscle in the past 2 years...its my goal to hit 224lbs currently sitting around 215 but 2 years ago i was 185

    Eat and sleep aswell as train......but im sure you already know the drill

    p.s you look good icon_smile.gif

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    Nov 26, 2010 5:56 AM GMT
    well, find pictures of you 5 years ago...
  • bolero_of_fir...

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    Nov 26, 2010 6:12 AM GMT
    If you're working out 6 days a week when are you resting? When are you giving your body time to heal and grow?
  • allatonce

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    Nov 26, 2010 3:23 PM GMT
    Firstly you look great so if you are "stuck" it's not a bad place to be stuck in. Secondly, you may just need to change things up to get results. I started eating a little less protein and doing full body workouts 3 times a week and my body seemed to respond well to both of those changes and started getting results. I you do the same workout for too long your body will get used to is and results will probably start going downhill.
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    Nov 26, 2010 3:31 PM GMT
    Actually since I posted this a few weeks ago I have started to put in weight. I should have been stricter with my diet in the past but the changes are showing. Not sure if I'm pushing a little harder or hitting the calorie sweet spot but before I had to do an emergency 2 day detox I wasn't getting below 180 and generally stay around 182 and definitely still seeing abs. I guess maybe I was running low on motivation but I got plenty for the time being