Narcissistic Personality Disorder

  • laguna07

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    Oct 27, 2010 3:09 AM GMT
    Has anyone here ever known anyone, had a friend or been in a relationship with someone who has this mental disorder.

    I had a friend who was different than anyone I had ever known. Unfortunately (for me) I fell in love with this guy. He was able to manipulate me for a lot of money and other things. I never would of thought anyone could take advantage of me like that. Over time things he turned out to be so different than any friend I had ever known. He lied, kept secrets, limited what we did together, among many other things. Frustrated, I discussed it with a psychologist friend who explained what his problem was and why he was like this, and how he could not be changed since he is so self-centered on his good looks.

    I'm curious if others here have had experiences with someone who has this personality disorder?
  • aiko14

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    Oct 27, 2010 4:06 PM GMT
    I am amazed that no one has yet to reply. I wonder why…icon_rolleyes.gif

    Yes, I met a lot of narcissistic people, but they were never diagnosed :p
    I classified narcissistic in my dictionary if they are one of this…

    *he has delusion of grandiosity
    *he thinks he is oh so “special”
    *his exaggeration is beyond human level
    *he thinks he wills success on everything… on everything
    *he would do anything for himself in other word… selfish
    *and so on…
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Oct 27, 2010 4:15 PM GMT
    I think narcissism, to some degree, is a basic component of the gay gene.
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    Oct 27, 2010 4:17 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI think narcissism, to some degree, is a basic component of the gay gene.


    +1
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    Oct 27, 2010 4:18 PM GMT
    mental disorder? Define your terms. This "disorder" doesn't exist outside of the diagnosis, as in, it's not a disorder, disease, whatever, it's called being a self-absorbed prick. Some people are more self-absorbed than others... that is called: personality diversity, as in, not everyone is the same, thank god.

    Also, calling it a "disorder" removes all responsibility from the person who is a self-absorbed prick. There is nothing diseased about this.
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    Oct 27, 2010 4:19 PM GMT
    I have a friend like this. Every sentence out of his mouth is about how good he looks, how great he is, and how everyone, gay or straight, wants to sleep with him. He is also one of those people who can get extremely over dramatic, and thinks that if he "fails" at something, it is due to fate or god being against him, and not of his own accord/laziness.

    Kinda annoying, I haven't heard from him in a while, and for the better too. Being humble used to be a quality that people enjoyed, now society has really become all about "me."
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    Oct 27, 2010 4:20 PM GMT
    MeOhMy saidmental disorder? Define your terms. This "disorder" doesn't exist outside of the diagnosis, as in, it's not a disorder, disease, whatever, it's called being a self-absorbed prick. Some people are more self-absorbed than others... that is called: personality diversity, as in, not everyone is the same, thank god.

    Also, calling it a "disorder" removes all responsibility from the person who is a self-absorbed prick. There is nothing diseased about this.


    I think the reason why it is called a "disorder" is because it prevents the self centered prick from ever developing normal relationships with other people.
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    Oct 27, 2010 4:21 PM GMT
    MeOhMy saidmental disorder? Define your terms. This "disorder" doesn't exist outside of the diagnosis, as in, it's not a disorder, disease, whatever, it's called being a self-absorbed prick. Some people are more self-absorbed than others... that is called: personality diversity, as in, not everyone is the same, thank god.

    Also, calling it a "disorder" removes all responsibility from the person who is a self-absorbed prick. There is nothing diseased about this.


    Indeed.

    Isn't the "disorder" variety of this called psychopathy?

    Otherwise you're just a prick.
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    Oct 27, 2010 4:25 PM GMT
    aiko14 saidI am amazed that no one has yet to reply. I wonder why…icon_rolleyes.gif


    I am not amazed at all. True narcissistic personality disorder is, in fact, very rare.
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    Oct 27, 2010 4:26 PM GMT
    It almost sounds like you're describing dating a woman...
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    Oct 27, 2010 4:27 PM GMT
    What is frustrating about these people is that they are INCAPABLE of caring for anyone other than themselves. I learned early on not to have anyone like that in my life. They might be kinda fun to have at a party, but not someone who you would actually hang out with at a party. yck.
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    Oct 27, 2010 4:27 PM GMT
    Chainers saidI have a friend like this. Every sentence out of his mouth is about how good he looks, how great he is, and how everyone, gay or straight, wants to sleep with him. He is also one of those people who can get extremely over dramatic, and thinks that if he "fails" at something, it is due to fate or god being against him, and not of his own accord/laziness.


    This is my last boyfriend to a T. When I broke up with him, he asked me why I would want to break up with someone so hot. He then told me I would never find anyone as hot as him again. He was a piece of work.
  • laguna07

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    Oct 27, 2010 4:31 PM GMT
    A few interesting characteristics with these people is that they never accept blame for anything, they are always the victim, they see themselves as smarter than everyone else, they are habitual liars and feel no guilt in lying, they are very manipulative to get what they want for others by usually using their looks, do not let you know other people in their lives for fear of being discovered since they are chameleons and become whatever they have to to fit in with different people to get what they want from them.
  • aiko14

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    Oct 27, 2010 4:33 PM GMT
    Mil8 said
    aiko14 saidI am amazed that no one has yet to reply. I wonder why…icon_rolleyes.gif


    I am not amazed at all. True narcissistic personality disorder is, in fact, very rare.


    how about egotism?
  • laguna07

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    Oct 27, 2010 4:33 PM GMT
    Yes, Mil8, people with this personality disorder are rare (thank God!). It is estimated to be less than 1% of the population, and 75% male.
  • aiko14

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    Oct 27, 2010 4:35 PM GMT
    laguna07 saidYes, Mil8, people with this personality disorder are rare (thank God!). It is estimated to be less than 1% of the population, and 75% male.


    it could be rare but you cant deny that egotism is not that rare.... i wonder how many are gay in that 75%? icon_razz.gif
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    Oct 27, 2010 4:37 PM GMT
    ye i had a friend that was kinda like that and only cared if you were hot or not. She was embarrassed to hang out with "ugly people" and didnt want to be seen around with any fat people. I thought it was funny at first but after awhile it gets pretty annoying if you are going to close yourself off to other people. Haha and she did take alot of my money (back in highschool) and never payed it back! She thought she deserved it cause she was beautiful or something like that.....
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    Oct 27, 2010 4:42 PM GMT
    A_1991 saidye i had a friend that was kinda like that and only cared if you were hot or not. She was embarrassed to hang out with "ugly people" and didnt want to be seen around with any fat people. I thought it was funny at first but after awhile it gets pretty annoying if you are going to close yourself off to other people. Haha and she did take alot of my money (back in highschool) and never payed it back! She thought she deserved it cause she was beautiful or something like that.....


    i think narcissistic would love to hang out with the ugly people... if they are hanging out with someone..... in that way they would think that they are the creme de la creme
  • xKorix

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    Oct 27, 2010 4:42 PM GMT
    Narcissism is a human trait, its a part of everybody. Ideally everybody should have healthy narcissism but unfortunately that doesn't happen. I kind of see it as an emotional immaturity. The reason they don't care about others and have trouble meeting the needs of the others is because they absolutely can't. They're far too immature and probably didn't have their needs met growing up. Would you ask a baby or a three year old to give you emotional support if your dog died? It's not possible, and it doesn't mean they're automatically bad or wrong(they're behavior maybe) they just need help to grow and mature.
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    Oct 27, 2010 4:43 PM GMT
    aiko14 said
    laguna07 saidYes, Mil8, people with this personality disorder are rare (thank God!). It is estimated to be less than 1% of the population, and 75% male.


    it could be rare but you cant deny that egotism is not that rare.... i wonder how many are gay in that 75%? icon_razz.gif


    That is true, but it is perfectly normal to have some sort of ego. With it comes the confidence and competence to perform what you are good at, whether it be accounting, programing, and so forth. Its only really an issue when it prevents you from having relationships with other people, because you think you are too good for them and so forth.

    However, it seems that many gay men have this attitude. As if a youthful, in shape body is going to last a lifetime. But then again, to each their own.
  • laguna07

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    Oct 27, 2010 5:25 PM GMT
    Chainers you are absolutely correct in normal people having healthy egos to different degrees, but for those who feel they are superior to most everyone, and use that imagined superiority to manipulate and control others (and really care nothing for others) for personal gain it is possibly NPD. Experts say this condition is a learned behavior (they disagree on the causes) from the age of 6 months to 6 years in children and does not manifest itself until about 18-20 years old. Many times these people, especially the ones that focus on their outward beauty, begin to crash-and-burn as they get into their 40's and 50's and their faces and bodies age. Before then they are able to make life work well with their control over others, so they have no reason to change or get help. Interestingly, they will many times see themselves as much smarter than a therapist.
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    Oct 27, 2010 5:34 PM GMT
    Chainers saidI have a friend like this. Every sentence out of his mouth is about how good he looks, how great he is, and how everyone, gay or straight, wants to sleep with him. He is also one of those people who can get extremely over dramatic, and thinks that if he "fails" at something, it is due to fate or god being against him, and not of his own accord/laziness.

    Kinda annoying, I haven't heard from him in a while, and for the better too. Being humble used to be a quality that people enjoyed, now society has really become all about "me."


    Was gonna ask, why are you friends?
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    Oct 27, 2010 6:06 PM GMT
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    Chainers saidI have a friend like this. Every sentence out of his mouth is about how good he looks, how great he is, and how everyone, gay or straight, wants to sleep with him. He is also one of those people who can get extremely over dramatic, and thinks that if he "fails" at something, it is due to fate or god being against him, and not of his own accord/laziness.

    Kinda annoying, I haven't heard from him in a while, and for the better too. Being humble used to be a quality that people enjoyed, now society has really become all about "me."


    Was gonna ask, why are you friends?


    Wouldnt much consider him a friend anymore, really. We used to be close in High School, but I find his excuses to be annoying. He wants to be an actor, and I set him up for an audition for one of the countries best improv groups, and he didnt go cause it was 45 minute drive away. Kinda hard to figure out why he hasnt made it, lol.

    Either way, its bridge under the water and Im more concerned with my own career, so I should have said I had a friend...
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    Oct 27, 2010 6:09 PM GMT
    Lately my friend pool has gone from expansion to shrinking... the reverse of wht is normal in my life.... ppl surprise you in bad ways sometimes
  • aiko14

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    Oct 27, 2010 6:17 PM GMT
    amar_m saidLately my friend pool has gone from expansion to shrinking... the reverse of wht is normal in my life.... ppl surprise you in bad ways sometimes


    trust me its not the QUANTITY it's the QUALITY icon_smile.gif