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  • drakutis

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    Mar 09, 2008 5:11 PM GMT
    I need some advice on something. I bought a Nissan Xterra 3 years ago and at that point when I got it, I really didn't care about luxury items and such like a navigation system, sunroof, leather seats. I just liked the look of the vehicle, it is a nice truck , BOOMING sound system, nice power, blah, blah, blah.

    Flash forward. Now my tastes have changed and I want those things in my vehicle now. I bought a portable nav system but it's not the same as having it already there. I would use it for rental car travels like I did in LA this past January.)

    I'm considering the forth coming Chevy Traverse because it's based on the same platform as the GMC Acadia and the Saturn OUTLOOK and I love the size of it, it's nice looking as well with a lot of features. That's the practical side of me.

    The wild side of me is considering the Cadillac CTS. I test drove it and it is amazing, although I would be giving up a lot of cargo room by going back to a sedan. The car is amazing.

    My question is, is there anyone on the site that has a 2008 CTS that can tell me their experience with the car? The same goes for the Saturn OUTLOOK/Acadia/Enclave trio.

    I thought that I really didn't want to go back to a sedan, but I would consider it for the CTS. I'm not going to make any moves until the Traverse is available in the fall.

    I just like to do research before any big purchase. icon_smile.gif

    Thanks guys. This site is the best with some very cool people.

    D.
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    Mar 10, 2008 1:23 AM GMT
    These are some cars/suv's I would recommend...take it for what you will. Each is within your price range that I imagine you are looking at....

    Cars:

    2008 Infiniti G (4 door)

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    2007/2008 Audi A4

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    Cadillac CTS (you are already looking at it)

    2008 Benz C-Class

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    SUV:

    2008 Saturn Vue (this is the redline model)

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    2008 Acura RDX

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    2008 Toyota Highlander

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    2008 Mazda Cx7

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    2006 Infiniti FX35/45 (I know - it isnt new - but I drive an 07 and adore it)

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    tons of great cars out there...good luck in your hunt and most importantly have fun!

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    Mar 10, 2008 2:00 AM GMT
    this one is a no brainer. a big bulky gas guzzling crossover or a great handling sports sedan, one that can compete with it's german competitors. One says soccer mom the other says I chose a car because I <3 to drive. Of course u lose cargo room and I don't know what it is you usually need to haul around but i'm sure u could figure something out.

    p.s. I always try to see who is driving on the highway in the hot car.... never too concerned who is driving the small bus.
  • drakutis

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    Mar 10, 2008 3:06 AM GMT
    I've never been in to BMW's or Mercedes for some reason. Toyota's bore the hell out of me. The Honda Accord coup is nice. My neighbor has one, but I think Honda's are overrated too.

    I already have a Nissan so the Infinity is not really a consideration, in other words nothing has caught my eye from them yet.

    The CTS would get me that " Hey, nice car! What's your name?" factor going on. icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 10, 2008 3:24 AM GMT
    drakutis said

    The CTS would get me that " Hey, nice car! What's your name?" factor going on. icon_lol.gif


    ...no a Camaro would do that...

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    Granted the CTS is fun to drive (from what people have told me)...but its still a Caddy...and my Grandpappy still drives one...well he has the STS but that's neither here nor there....

    The CTS was the "it" car when it was in both The Matrix 2 and Bad Boys 2...but right now...I gotta say if I saw a guy driving a CTS - it wouldn't turn my head...but thats just me - and to be honest, my truck has had guys come up to me (the sound of the engine, the look, the speed, the feel, the 20s....I can go on)

    If you want to go for stunning but practical...You may want to consider a Scion icon_smile.gif (j/k)

    Honestly Infiniti is a different breed from the Xterra you are driving. Trust me go in and give the G or FX a test drive. You'll never think the same way again. Listen to the engine - feel how flat it travels at 60 through hairpin turns...but also drive the Caddy. Something to think about as well - with the market and the fact that you are going to buy a car in the best possible market to do so - you will probably get an excellent deal on either the Infiniti (since it is a nissan product and they notoriously cut prices to keep customers - especially when you lease through them)...but also on the Caddy.

  • drakutis

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    Mar 10, 2008 3:34 AM GMT
    I got in the new EX at the DC auto show and it was cute, but too small for me.

    I love the new Camaro also, but I don't want a coup. too many memories of leaning forward to let someone behind me when I was a kid. ( although with my lifestyle now I should be used to it! icon_lol.gif )

    My grandfather always drove Oldsmobiles and my mother did the two door caddys.

    That practical side of me is a bastard!!!

    Why do I want to put a Knight Rider Scanner light in that opening on the hood of the Camaro? That is just asking for that accessory!
  • drakutis

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    Mar 10, 2008 3:46 AM GMT
    LaSalle04

    have you checked out the 2009 FX?
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    Mar 10, 2008 3:51 AM GMT
    I just got a new used 98 Tacoma. I love it! It's my first manual, and my first truck. And it's red! icon_biggrin.gif
  • drakutis

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    Mar 10, 2008 3:18 PM GMT
    Congrats on the truck!!
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    Mar 10, 2008 3:34 PM GMT
    I don't know much about cars. My grandfather worked on them everyday with my uncle, but I failed to see the purpose of auto-mechanics at the time. I went most of life, until this year, only have driven less a total 500 miles in 2 years. The rest of the time up to the start of this year: I spent walking a mile to and from school everyday, than using city bus system when I moved to a bigger city, than the bus, subway and commuter rail system here in Boston. So there's little or nothing I can tell you about your car; though if I could hear you car I'm sure I can give you a fair diagnosis. A skill I have no business having, but attribute 100% to my grandfather's upbringing.

    But I hope the next car I have will be will be as Green as possible, without smelling like vegetable oil. I don't care too much about horse power, all terrain, sound system, or whatever extras a car can have... If it's fuel efficeint and gets me where I'm going, for now, that's all I care about; and finding ways not to be dependent on my car when I get to Phx.
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    Mar 10, 2008 3:45 PM GMT
    I guess it depends on what kind of driving you do and what your hauling requirements are. If the car/SUV is for commuting only whay would you pay big bucks for a gas guzzler? I traded-in my SUV a couple of years ago and bought an Audi A3 - and love it! There is enough space to haul something back from Home Depot, gets good gas mileage and has the quality and handling that you would expect of a German car. The mechanics at my dealership actually prefer the A3 over the A4 - they call it a "rocket on wheels", and after driving many A4's - I agree.
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    Mar 10, 2008 3:45 PM GMT
    Based on what you were considering, I'm assuming that you like SUV not based on their off-road abilities. With that in mind I would consider the Mazda CX7, Saturn Vue Redline or wait for the all new BMW X6 (avoid the X5 and X3). These are SUV's that have car like handeling and offer a high level of fit and finish at a reasonable price.
    Of course I perfer cars myself and nothing beats the CTS-V (unless it's a corvette of course) where GM cars are concerned. There's so much out there for luxury car shoppers. That's another forum topic.
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    Mar 10, 2008 3:52 PM GMT
    Can't find it but the Enclave was listed as the "Best Family SUV" for the upcoming Gay family.



    - The CTS is AMAZING! Don't bother with the V8 if your considering it, the gain in power compared to the base V6 isn't much. But like most GM products it's value is going to decline rapidly. Still if a fun car is what you want its the best thing out there to match a mid level BMW.

    - Personally I'd be against any SUV just on the basis of it being a guzzler. SUV's will also depreciate faster than a sedan, they will also normally be more expensive to insure than a similarly powered sedan.

    My question: Do you need space or seating capacity?

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    BWM 1 Series IMO!

    Lightweight 300 hp turbo V6 for around the same price as the CTS. Plus the BMW will retain it's value better as time goes on. Compared to the Caddy its 300 hp vs 263 and the BMW is also on a lighter platform. Plus it can still come filled with all the luxury goodies.

    Just say no to pigs, I mean SUV's....
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    Mar 10, 2008 3:55 PM GMT
    I drive a 2002 Nissan Altima. A great car, good on gas and very comfortable. Despite being only a 4-cylinder it has good acceleration. I have hit 100 mph without much struggle.

    The next car is going to be a hybrid. I was not put on this earth so that oil producers could become super wealthy. Where I work we have a Toyota Camry hybrid. Very useful when you are stuck in one of Toronto's infamous traffic jams. It burns no fuel when it is "idling".
  • drakutis

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    Mar 10, 2008 4:05 PM GMT
    My Xterra right now is getting close to 17mpg in city driving only because I don't drive it that much, but it can get much worse depending of course on how I drive. I can control that, just be easy on the pedal. I guess now I want to have a little luxury.

    I'm kind of lucky because I have a company vehicle that I can take home, so I don't have to use my personal vehicle to get to work. And they pay for gas too.

    I really see the CTS in my driveway and garage, but I'm keeping my options open just in case I change my mind again if something else catches my eye. (As I so often do.)
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    Mar 10, 2008 4:07 PM GMT
    jbedwards said......The next car is going to be a hybrid. I was not put on this earth so that oil producers could become super wealthy. Where I work we have a Toyota Camry hybrid. Very useful when you are stuck in one of Toronto's infamous traffic jams. It burns no fuel when it is idling.


    What sustains the idling?
  • drakutis

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    Mar 10, 2008 4:11 PM GMT
    I believe it's the electric motor that sustains it. Am I correct?
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    Mar 10, 2008 4:12 PM GMT
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    What sustains the idling?


    It doesn't technically idle under normal warmed up operation. The engine shuts off and the electric motor takes over power at speeds under 35 mph. Same goes for the Ford and Nissan hybrids since both companies use Toyota technology.

    Also works at stops yes.
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    Mar 10, 2008 4:37 PM GMT
    drakutis saidI believe it's the electric motor that sustains it. Am I correct?


    Yes you are correct and it is great. The fuel consumption goes from about 32 mpg to 0 mpg. For metric people it goes from 7.4 L/100 km., to 0 L/100 km..

    If you drive around a lot in a big city that is prone to stop and start traffic in rush hour, then hyrbids really come into their own. No more worry about running out of fuel when the tank reads near empty.

    The Camry Hybrid does not have a big advantage over my Altima in highway driving (maybe 10% better), but the Prius does.

    My brother drove his Prius over 600 miles through New England and spent $17 on gas.
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    Mar 10, 2008 4:43 PM GMT
    My next car:

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    The US model is gas only, with diesel on the horizon. Eventually they'll get a diesel/electric hybrid...but I can't wait.
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    Mar 10, 2008 8:26 PM GMT
    Are there many "smart cars" in the US? I see quite a few in Toronto now. They are great for inner-city driving, but I am not sure I would want to drive one on a multi-lane highway like the 401 between Windsor and Montreal. I would feel like a flea on an elephant passing those 18-wheel transport trucks!
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    Mar 10, 2008 8:29 PM GMT
    LaSalle04 has posted some very sexy cars. I love the Infiniti's looks, but if Lexus comes out with a hybrid I am there in a split second (hot red, blue or bright yellow, no dull silver, grey or black for this guy).
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    Mar 10, 2008 8:30 PM GMT
    whats the best luxury vehicle out there that's nice looking but also fuel efficient? like in the 30-60 mpg area? do they even exist? i love that bmer but man, it only gets like 23mpg
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    Mar 10, 2008 8:57 PM GMT
    Three years? Man, your old vehicle isn't even broken in yet! Give it a decade, at least.

    About the smart- I drove the turbo diesel model around in the mountains in Spain for a month and it had plenty of power and handled well. Ground clearance was a problem on the more "primitive" roads. (As for most small cars.) And of course, forget about transporting a "crew," unless it's a crew of two.

    If the US version turns out to be similar in power, I'm envisioning a little matching trailer to carry weekend toys and supplies, or the occasional suburban load.
  • Timbales

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    Mar 11, 2008 12:58 AM GMT
    drakutis saidI need some advice on something. I bought a Nissan Xterra 3 years ago and at that point when I got it, I really didn't care about luxury items and such like a navigation system, sunroof, leather seats. I just liked the look of the vehicle, it is a nice truck , BOOMING sound system, nice power, blah, blah, blah.

    Flash forward. Now my tastes have changed and I want those things in my vehicle now. I bought a portable nav system but it's not the same as having it already there. I would use it for rental car travels like I did in LA this past January.)

    I'm considering the forth coming Chevy Traverse because it's based on the same platform as the GMC Acadia and the Saturn OUTLOOK and I love the size of it, it's nice looking as well with a lot of features. That's the practical side of me.

    The wild side of me is considering the Cadillac CTS. I test drove it and it is amazing, although I would be giving up a lot of cargo room by going back to a sedan. The car is amazing.

    My question is, is there anyone on the site that has a 2008 CTS that can tell me their experience with the car? The same goes for the Saturn OUTLOOK/Acadia/Enclave trio.

    I thought that I really didn't want to go back to a sedan, but I would consider it for the CTS. I'm not going to make any moves until the Traverse is available in the fall.

    I just like to do research before any big purchase. icon_smile.gif

    Thanks guys. This site is the best with some very cool people.

    D.


    I'd give the new trio of GM SUV's a few years yet to work out the bugs. So far they seem pretty decent, though.