Biting the Bulking Bullet

  • neosyllogy

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    Oct 30, 2010 4:11 PM GMT
    So, after trying to bulk while keep up my current activity level and general bf% for awhile I've finally decided to bite the bullet and do a real bulk.
    Still going to keep up the athletics (which include fair bit of cardio), but willing to lose leanness for a while in order to add some muscle mass.

    195 right now. Would ideally like to hit lean ~210, not sure if I'll get there straight away, but kind of excited to be working at putting on muscle again.

    Nominally I should take in 3400-3800 Cal/day for maintenance (depending on how you calculate and activity level that week). I was going to shoot for around 4000-4200 Cal/day. Aim for 220 g protein/day & ~33% calories from fat.

    Thoughts, tips, suggestions? I don't have much bulking experience. But am pretty excited, even if it mean losing some definition for awhile (I confess, that's been a sticking point, as I'm rather attached to my current physique... but gotta spend money to make money =).
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    Oct 30, 2010 4:53 PM GMT
    neosyllogy said as I'm rather attached to my current physique... but gotta spend money to make money =)


    Weird, im rather attacted to your current physique too. icon_biggrin.gif

    I think the answer is EAT. and then EAT more. and then EAT again. Although I dont.
  • neosyllogy

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    Oct 30, 2010 4:57 PM GMT
    I get a lot of "why would you want to bulk" comments.
    I would just prefer a bit more size. I like the lithe look aesthetically, but besides the minor concern of being in the middle of my weight class (without cutting) at most competitions, I just feel like my frame would work better with more weight on it. And it's fun being strong. icon_razz.gif
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    Oct 30, 2010 9:05 PM GMT
    Eat
  • greenland

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    Oct 30, 2010 10:51 PM GMT
    eat unsalted nuts and add olive oil to all meals - loads of calaries that way icon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 31, 2010 12:28 AM GMT
    This is so hard for me to do, since I want to gain muscle w/o having to bulk which is so hard to do.
  • neosyllogy

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    Oct 31, 2010 1:18 PM GMT
    sfinboston saidThis is so hard for me to do, since I want to gain muscle w/o having to bulk which is so hard to do.


    Yeah, same. =)
    Hence deciding to "bite the bullet". I think it's worth it to just say 'fuck other people' and go for it. I know I have a catty ex-bf who will make passive aggressive comments about my weight for example. But I'm excited. icon_biggrin.gif
    [In fact, I think I made this thread as much to cement my psychological commitment to bulking as anything. --- Feel free to use it for the same if you like. icon_biggrin.gif ]
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    Oct 31, 2010 4:07 PM GMT
    neosyllogy said
    sfinboston saidThis is so hard for me to do, since I want to gain muscle w/o having to bulk which is so hard to do.


    Yeah, same. =)
    Hence deciding to "bite the bullet". I think it's worth it to just say 'fuck other people' and go for it. I know I have a catty ex-bf who will make passive aggressive comments about my weight for example. But I'm excited. icon_biggrin.gif
    [In fact, I think I made this thread as much to cement my psychological commitment to bulking as anything. --- Feel free to use it for the same if you like. icon_biggrin.gif ]


    Go for it...
    There's a for lack of a better term, pyschological difference, between purposely putting on weight like in this instance compared to someone just being gluttonous and getting "fat" over time because you're controlling it and you should be able to dial it back much the same
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    Oct 31, 2010 9:04 PM GMT
    neosyllogy saidI've finally decided to bite the bullet and do a real bulk.

    Welcome to the dark side bro! Good luck w/ the bulk.
  • jova

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    Nov 01, 2010 5:27 PM GMT
    Some food that help me to take weight:

    Breakfast : cereal with yogurt, eggs, eggs, eggs

    10am and 4pm : nuts, walnuts, ... or pound cake with protein shake

    Before bed : cottage cheese

    Stop cardio training for a time and have a lot of rest and sleep

    Best for your bulk
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    Nov 01, 2010 5:44 PM GMT
    I feel the same way... I want to bulk up for muscle, but I'm scared of loosing the progress I've made with fat loss. A good strategy might be to bulk up and then when you can't see any definition in your abs anymore do a cutting cycle again. These are the best months for bulking anyway (winter), so good luck.
  • jova

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    Nov 01, 2010 5:52 PM GMT
    CHIdude saidI feel the same way... I want to bulk up for muscle, but I'm scared of loosing the progress I've made with fat loss. A good strategy might be to bulk up and then when you can't see any definition in your abs anymore do a cutting cycle again. These are the best months for bulking anyway (winter), so good luck.


    Don't be afraid to become a little be fat. You will loose it easily since you have a nice muscular basis.
  • tongun18

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    Nov 03, 2010 6:13 PM GMT
    Neo, hitting 210 will put you on the lower end of the heavyweights, won't it? Do you want to compete in that class? Or would you then cut down to 205 to stay in the light-heavyweight class?

    The thought of your current level of definition with an added 10+ pounds of muscle is a pleasant one though :-). Good luck man!
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    Nov 04, 2010 7:30 PM GMT
    Keep your goal squarely in mind. I've been eating everything I can get my hands on for the last few months. Gained 15lbs, but I bet about 5 of it is fat. Drag. I had a weight problem when I was younger and lost about 80lbs. So being even slightly overweight now makes me really uncomfortable. But I just gotta remind myself that it's the means to an end, and I'll be slim again before I know it. But be ready to say goodbye to the lower abs and external obliques for a little while. You know what you're doing better than I do. Just giving you some positive reinforcement.
  • neosyllogy

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    Nov 05, 2010 8:34 PM GMT
    tongun18 saidNeo, hitting 210 will put you on the lower end of the heavyweights, won't it? Do you want to compete in that class? Or would you then cut down to 205 to stay in the light-heavyweight class?

    The thought of your current level of definition with an added 10+ pounds of muscle is a pleasant one though :-). Good luck man!


    Judo, BJJ, and sub grappling all have different cut-offs for their weight divisions. And those cut-offs are often modified for any given tournament to round out the divisions. But yeah, cutting from 205 to 210 is easy. Anything in the 5-7lbs range is just water weight. I haven't cut for tournament before, but if I'm at the bottom of my class already wouldn't mind.

    Thanks for the encouragement all. ;)
    S'going well so far.