ELECTION RESULTS

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    Nov 03, 2010 3:56 PM GMT
    Congratulations to Teas N' Reps

    We now have...

    1. More Broken families due to No Immigration Reform
    2. Resurging of Bush policies that drove economy into the ditch
    3. Goodbye to the environment, because they are BFFs with lobbying giants
    4. NO Gay Marriage chance
    5. NO chance for DADT
    6. Potentially more richer rich people from the poor struggling blue collars' money and hard work
    7. And a government that is basically on Hold until one of our representatives are free from assisting other customers.
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    Nov 03, 2010 4:04 PM GMT
    That's a great succinct overview, except you forgot about the "investigations."

    Frankly, I think Holder should begin investigating all the Bush cronies for war crimes and election fraud and all the other illegal shit they did. Same with Wall Street. It's obvious that despite Obama's attempts to be bipartisan, these animals are not interested. So I say go scorched earth on them. Nothing is going to get done anyway.
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    Nov 03, 2010 4:54 PM GMT
    RRButch1. More Broken families due to No Immigration Reform


    Famlies that had no right coming here in the first place, because it wasn't legal. So if they are "broken" it is their own fault.

    RRButch2. Resurging of Bush policies that drove economy into the ditch

    You mean leftwing policies pushed by democrats and accepted by Bush (which is why he was such a bad president).

    RRButch3. Goodbye to the environment, because they are BFFs with lobbying giants

    One way to help the environment is to crack down on immigration, and illegal immigration. They have disproportionately more children and huge population growth is not good for the environment, did you know that? Also, have you figured out a way to stop china from destroying the environment yet? Perhaps you want America to punish companies that don't reduce their toxin output so that they can move to China or South America and still put out the same toxin output that ends up ruining the environment anyway but destroying America's last hope for economic recovery?

    RRButch4. NO Gay Marriage chance


    Not necessarily. There are still Judges who realize that disenfranchising gay people is not constitutionally consistent with freedom. We already have Gay Republicans moving forward with getting DADT permanently removed as well as other Republican gay activists. The Democrats did nothing while in office for gays.

    RRButch5. NO chance for DADT


    Wrong again, see above.

    RRButch6. Potentially more richer rich people from the poor struggling blue collars' money and hard work


    And they deserve it if they worked hard for it. Perhaps I should compare your living standard with someone in Africa or Russia and tell you that you have "too much"?
  • metta

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    Nov 03, 2010 5:01 PM GMT
    I think that just about every GLBT rights supporter for major office won in California.

    Governor: Jerry Brown
    Lieutenant Governor: Gavin Newsom
    Secretary of State: Debra Bowen
    Controller: John Chiang
    Treasurer: Bill Lockyer (hated his commercials)
    Attorney General: Kamala Harris (close race - insurance companies financed commercials that used her stance on being against the death penalty against her. It is so close that I'm not sure that this is final yet. 97.1% reporting and it is 3,246,146 to 3,215,104 votes)
    Insurance Commissioner: Dave Jones
    State Board of Equalization: Chris Parker
    Senator: Boxer
    My Congresswoman Judy Chu won by a landslide...she is a huge GLBT supporter.

    Closeted Republican Congressman David Dreier won as well. He was not on my ballot this year...they must have changed mine to Judy...which is what I asked for. I'm on the border of the two. Strange how they keep changing it. One election they were both on my ballot.

    The judges results are just plain stupid. It looks like most people just voted yes on everything without doing any research. So Supreme Court Justice Ming Chin won. He votes against us time and time again.

    I think that the majority of Californians see tea party candidates as a joke. Obviously, much of the rest of the country does not.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Nov 03, 2010 5:02 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidThat's a great succinct overview, except you forgot about the "investigations."

    Frankly, I think Holder should begin investigating all the Bush cronies for war crimes and election fraud and all the other illegal shit they did. Same with Wall Street. It's obvious that despite Obama's attempts to be bipartisan, these animals are not interested. So I say go scorched earth on them. Nothing is going to get done anyway.



    Oh good lord...that huge chip on your shoulder may lead to back problems.

    As for the ELECTION RESULTS -- Personally, I think Obama needed a good hard dose of reality. He isn't going to be there in 2 years unless he starts reaching across the aisle in a very gig way and working with the Republicans (Granted, that works both ways). This election just illuminates how fickle American's can be. Who would have ever thought that the glow of Obama's election would have dimmed out so quickly. I do think there is still hope. The next year or so should be interesting.
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    Nov 03, 2010 5:03 PM GMT
    metta8 saidI think that just about every GLBT rights supporter for major office won in California.

    Governor: Jerry Brown
    Lieutenant Governor: Gavin Newsom
    Secretary of State: Debra Bowen
    Controller: John Chiang
    Treasurer: Bill Lockyer (hated his commercials)
    Attorney General: Kamala Harris (close race - insurance companies financed commercials that used her stance on being against the death penalty against her. It is so close that I'm not sure that this is final yet. 97.1% reporting and it is 3,246,146 to 3,215,104 votes)
    Insurance Commissioner: Dave Jones
    State Board of Equalization: Chris Parker
    Senator: Boxer
    My Congresswoman Judy Chu won by a landslide...she is a huge GLBT supporter.


    The judges results are just plain stupid. It looks like most people just voted yes on everything without doing any research. So Supreme Court Justice Ming Chin won. He votes against us time and time again.

    I think that the majority of Californians see tea party candidates as a joke. Obviously, much of the rest of the country does not.


    You forgot about Fiorina, she was for civil unions (same as president) and she lost.
  • metta

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    Nov 03, 2010 5:15 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Christian73 saidThat's a great succinct overview, except you forgot about the "investigations."

    Frankly, I think Holder should begin investigating all the Bush cronies for war crimes and election fraud and all the other illegal shit they did. Same with Wall Street. It's obvious that despite Obama's attempts to be bipartisan, these animals are not interested. So I say go scorched earth on them. Nothing is going to get done anyway.



    Oh good lord...that huge chip on your shoulder may lead to back problems.

    As for the ELECTION RESULTS -- Personally, I think Obama needed a good hard dose of reality. He isn't going to be there in 2 years unless he starts reaching across the aisle in a very gig way and working with the Republicans (Granted, that works both ways). This election just illuminates how fickle American's can be. Who would have ever thought that the glow of Obama's election would have dimmed out so quickly. I do think there is still hope. The next year or so should be interesting.


    That is a tough one because it is not as though Obama has not tried. Republicans were just voting no on everything, even their own policies when Obama supported it. How do you get anything done with a group that just automatically votes no on everything?

    And people just screaming "Cut Government Spending" means nothing to me without telling me where you want to cut. Look at the actual government budget and see what can actually be cut. I think that we are going to find that Defense spending will need to be cut but no one will ever say that.
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    Nov 03, 2010 5:37 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    metta8 said Republicans were just voting no on everything, even their own policies when Obama supported it.


    You do realize what an over-the-top lie that is, don't you? On second thought... maybe you don't.

    As soon as health care got out of committee, where there was some Republican support for very specific parts, it got worked behind close doors in Congress with Democrats and White House staffers. In this case Republicans never had a chance to vote until all the sausage was made by the Democrats.
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    Nov 03, 2010 5:40 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    Christian73 saidThat's a great succinct overview, except you forgot about the "investigations."

    Frankly, I think Holder should begin investigating all the Bush cronies for war crimes and election fraud and all the other illegal shit they did. Same with Wall Street. It's obvious that despite Obama's attempts to be bipartisan, these animals are not interested. So I say go scorched earth on them. Nothing is going to get done anyway.



    Oh good lord...that huge chip on your shoulder may lead to back problems.

    As for the ELECTION RESULTS -- Personally, I think Obama needed a good hard dose of reality. He isn't going to be there in 2 years unless he starts reaching across the aisle in a very gig way and working with the Republicans (Granted, that works both ways). This election just illuminates how fickle American's can be. Who would have ever thought that the glow of Obama's election would have dimmed out so quickly. I do think there is still hope. The next year or so should be interesting.


    I don't have a chip on my shoulder. I'm only telling you what the Republicans have said they intend to do.

    Obama tried constantly for bipartisanship. In fact, a recent article noted that at his first meeting with Bohner and McConnell they said they would NOT work with him on anything. And they didn't. Why people voted for them is probably the best psy-ops stories in the history if politics.
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    Nov 03, 2010 5:48 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Christian73 said
    Obama tried constantly for bipartisanship.


    Yeah... his idea of bipartisanship is "Here's how we're going to do it. If you don't go along, you are not acting bipartisan."



    SB, you know that's not true. Stop spewing Republican talking points.
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    Nov 03, 2010 5:56 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Christian73 said
    southbeach1500 said
    Christian73 said
    Obama tried constantly for bipartisanship.


    Yeah... his idea of bipartisanship is "Here's how we're going to do it. If you don't go along, you are not acting bipartisan."



    SB, you know that's not true. Stop spewing Republican talking points.


    Take a trip outside NYC and the northeast and visit the real America for a few weeks and you'll be exposed to a much different point of view.


    You live in Miami! And you grew up in New Jersey. So please lay off the idea that those of us who live in major cities are "out of touch". I am regularly in the South and "married" in to a Southern family. Half of my family are Regan republicans (and live in NYS) and some are Tea Party supporters. Now, why they vote for candidates who want to take away their pensions is a case of Stockholm syndrome that I will never understand.

    PS: I live in the one of the first cities of the US and one of the original colonies. So you can take your "real America" BS and shove it.
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    Nov 03, 2010 6:10 PM GMT
    Mark your calendars and tune in to the "show" that begins in January. Watch all the episodes for the next two seasons and what happens to your country, state, local and personal lives during this run...because this new casting will make "The Jersey Shore" look like "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington," on LSD: nothing will make sense. Enjoy!
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    Nov 03, 2010 6:14 PM GMT
    B787 saidMark your calendars and tune in to the "show" that begins in January. Watch all the episodes for the next two seasons and what happens to your country, state, local and personal lives during this run...because this new casting will make "The Jersey Shore" look like "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington," on LSD: nothing will make sense. Enjoy!


    True. It's great for comedy. Bad for America.
  • coolarmydude

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    Nov 03, 2010 6:30 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    RRButch2. Resurging of Bush policies that drove economy into the ditch

    You mean leftwing policies pushed by democrats and accepted by Bush (which is why he was such a bad president).



    How many times did you vote for Bush?

    Did you support the war in Iraq, before the invasion, during and a few years after?
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    Nov 03, 2010 6:34 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ said
    As for the ELECTION RESULTS -- Personally, I think Obama needed a good hard dose of reality. He isn't going to be there in 2 years unless he starts reaching across the aisle in a very gig way and working with the Republicans (Granted, that works both ways). This election just illuminates how fickle American's can be. Who would have ever thought that the glow of Obama's election would have dimmed out so quickly. I do think there is still hope. The next year or so should be interesting.



    I agree, except I don't think things in Washington will improve.
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    Nov 03, 2010 6:40 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Christian73 said
    You live in Miami! And you grew up in New Jersey. So please lay off the idea that those of us who live in major cities are "out of touch". I am regularly in the South and "married" in to a Southern family. Half of my family are Regan republicans (and live in NYS) and some are Tea Party supporters. Now, why they vote for candidates who want to take away their pensions is a case of Stockholm syndrome that I will never understand.

    PS: I live in the one of the first cities of the US and one of the original colonies. So you can take your "real America" BS and shove it.



    A picture is worth a thousand words....

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    As usual, no response. Just a dodge. Tiring really.
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    Nov 03, 2010 6:41 PM GMT
    it's the Americans who need reality check.

    1. 8 years of deregulation and inflation due to Republican, instead of building up economy, he burried it in debt as evident by the collapse of the market and housing before even dems could pass any legislations

    2. given, we are in a recession. however puny minds failed to see what obama is advocating as far as "laying foundation" for better economical status, locally and internationally. Shall I elaborate?

    Health Care:
    Healthy People = Healthy Working Class = Healthy Business = More Money

    Green Revolution Vs. Corporations:
    The future if other progressive nations is invested in Green Technology.
    Replacing Industrialization by Green Techs, infrastructure actually would bolster economical growth, job creation, investments, and environmental protection. Of course, big corporations and lobbyists wouldn't want their money disintegrate with their oils

    Immigration:
    Just fine those who seek amnesty $5000 each + Immigration Fees + Lawyer Fees. Then do the math of how many illegal immigrants are here who wouldn't come forward otherwise = BILLIONS of Government Revenue enough to pay some debts

    Of course, it only applies to those with NO Criminal records.

    3. classic example of impatience american who wants "quick fixes"
    Economy is bad, took 8 years to derail it, and now everyone want's to fix it in
    two years, if it ain't got fix, we turning against the other direction. Classic american, I want it done and I want it now. Tho, reps hadn't offered any concrete plans on how to fix, during (8 years) and neither after...

    4. Immigration, i wont divulge in it because both parties do agree it is broken in many levels and it affects families of all origin.


    PS. it's not soundbytes compared to how you argued as those points are soundbytes, you need a dose of reality from republican soundbytes
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    Nov 03, 2010 6:44 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    metta8 said Republicans were just voting no on everything, even their own policies when Obama supported it.


    You do realize what an over-the-top lie that is, don't you? On second thought... maybe you don't.


    you need to read more facts...
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    Nov 03, 2010 6:48 PM GMT
    Compromise, republican contingents repeatedly and documented they would NOT compromise.

    Democrats, compromised gays, compromised, health care, and more just to be bipartisan.... still a brick wall on the other side
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    Nov 03, 2010 7:17 PM GMT
    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HEREit's the Americans who need reality check.


    Sorry, it's you who needs the reality check.

    RRButch1. 8 years of deregulation and inflation due to Republican, instead of building up economy, he burried it in debt as evident by the collapse of the market and housing before even dems could pass any legislations


    Completely false. The market was operating just fine. Everything went under once politicians, mainly comprised of democrats who initiated but also joined by Bush, decided to require that fannie and freddie push into more subprime lending in order to increase more home-ownership diversity and help lower-income people have "affordable" housing. The banks then took advantage of the fact that they were backed by taxpayer dollars if they were ever to go under. It was a "win win", "nothing to lose" situation for the banks. If the government had not interfered to begin with, the bubble and subsequent housing bust never would have happened. So get your facts straight.

    RRButch2. given, we are in a recession. however puny minds failed to see what obama is advocating as far as "laying foundation" for better economical status, locally and internationally. Shall I elaborate?


    NO, Obama's whole agenda was and still is destructive to the American dream. It's all about punishing hard work, redistributing money to people who never earned it, higher taxes, requiring people who have to pay for the health care of those who have not. It's anti-capitalistic, pure and simple, and when this happens the incentives are lost and the economy continues to get worse and worse and worse.

    RRButchHealth Care:
    Healthy People = Healthy Working Class = Healthy Business = More Money


    Nonsense. Free healthcare only encourages laziness for the people who already can't afford it and it burdens the people who are the job-makers. Where did you get these totally unrealistic ideas?

    RRButch
    Green Revolution Vs. Corporations:
    The future if other progressive nations is invested in Green Technology.
    Replacing Industrialization by Green Techs, infrastructure actually would bolster economical growth, job creation, investments, and environmental protection. Of course, big corporations and lobbyists wouldn't want their money disintegrate with their oils


    You have to create incentives, that's all. Capitalism doesn't work with punishing, it only drives business overseas.

    [quote]Immigration:
    Just fine those who seek amnesty $5000 each + Immigration Fees + Lawyer Fees. Then do the math of how many illegal immigrants are here who wouldn't come forward otherwise = BILLIONS of Government Revenue enough to pay some debts

    Of course, it only applies to those with NO Criminal records.[/quote]

    So in another 10 years we just do the same thing over again? Why even have immigration standards period? And how would you enforce all of this? Do you think the illegals are going to come forward, especially when they already have no money and are already being subsidized indirectly with taxpayer dollars for schooling and foodstamps for their now "legal" children?

    RRBUtchE3. classic example of impatience american who wants "quick fixes"
    Economy is bad, took 8 years to derail it, and now everyone want's to fix it in
    two years, if it ain't got fix, we turning against the other direction. Classic american, I want it done and I want it now. Tho, reps hadn't offered any concrete plans on how to fix, during (8 years) and neither after...


    The entire DIRECTION Obama wanted to go is wrong for economic growth, it's bad for business, it's hurtful to a system that should be rewarding hard work rather than laziness.

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    Nov 03, 2010 7:21 PM GMT
    Whatever your party affiliation, whether right or left or middle, if your candidate won or lost, AS LONG AS YOU GOT OUT AND VOTED

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    Nov 03, 2010 7:42 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HEREit's the Americans who need reality check.


    Sorry, it's you who needs the reality check.

    RRButch1. 8 years of deregulation and inflation due to Republican, instead of building up economy, he burried it in debt as evident by the collapse of the market and housing before even dems could pass any legislations


    Completely false. The market was operating just fine. Everything went under once politicians, mainly comprised of democrats who initiated but also joined by Bush, decided to require that fannie and freddie push into more subprime lending in order to increase more home-ownership diversity and help lower-income people have "affordable" housing. The banks then took advantage of the fact that they were backed by taxpayer dollars if they were ever to go under. It was a "win win", "nothing to lose" situation for the banks. If the government had not interfered to begin with, the bubble and subsequent housing bust never would have happened. So get your facts straight.

    RRButch2. given, we are in a recession. however puny minds failed to see what obama is advocating as far as "laying foundation" for better economical status, locally and internationally. Shall I elaborate?


    NO, Obama's whole agenda was and still is destructive to the American dream. It's all about punishing hard work, redistributing money to people who never earned it, higher taxes, requiring people who have to pay for the health care of those who have not. It's anti-capitalistic, pure and simple, and when this happens the incentives are lost and the economy continues to get worse and worse and worse.

    RRButchHealth Care:
    Healthy People = Healthy Working Class = Healthy Business = More Money


    Nonsense. Free healthcare only encourages laziness for the people who already can't afford it and it burdens the people who are the job-makers. Where did you get these totally unrealistic ideas?

    RRButch
    Green Revolution Vs. Corporations:
    The future if other progressive nations is invested in Green Technology.
    Replacing Industrialization by Green Techs, infrastructure actually would bolster economical growth, job creation, investments, and environmental protection. Of course, big corporations and lobbyists wouldn't want their money disintegrate with their oils


    You have to create incentives, that's all. Capitalism doesn't work with punishing, it only drives business overseas.

    [quote]Immigration:
    Just fine those who seek amnesty $5000 each + Immigration Fees + Lawyer Fees. Then do the math of how many illegal immigrants are here who wouldn't come forward otherwise = BILLIONS of Government Revenue enough to pay some debts

    Of course, it only applies to those with NO Criminal records.


    So in another 10 years we just do the same thing over again? Why even have immigration standards period? And how would you enforce all of this? Do you think the illegals are going to come forward, especially when they already have no money and are already being subsidized indirectly with taxpayer dollars for schooling and foodstamps for their now "legal" children?

    RRBUtchE3. classic example of impatience american who wants "quick fixes"
    Economy is bad, took 8 years to derail it, and now everyone want's to fix it in
    two years, if it ain't got fix, we turning against the other direction. Classic american, I want it done and I want it now. Tho, reps hadn't offered any concrete plans on how to fix, during (8 years) and neither after...


    The entire DIRECTION Obama wanted to go is wrong for economic growth, it's bad for business, it's hurtful to a system that should be rewarding hard work rather than laziness.

    [/quote]

    Mock - Again, please do us all a favor and read a book! Is it impossible for you to do so? All you do is repeat the same lies about what happened in the economy. And then the racist stuff about immigrants. It's just ridiculous.
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    Nov 03, 2010 8:20 PM GMT
    NO, Obama's whole agenda was and still is destructive to the American dream.
    ~FALSE, completely false...no point arguing that at all

    It's all about punishing hard work
    ~you have to prove it, otherwise, Obama raised student eligibility cap to 26, added tax credits (envi, edu, etc), small business credits etc.

    redistributing money to people who never earned it
    ~who? when? where?

    higher taxes, requiring people who have to pay for the health care of those who have not.
    ~pointless, read facts... health care is virtually paid and credited and or subsidized


    It's anti-capitalistic, pure and simple
    ~you prefer giant capitalisms where it widens the gap between the rich and the middle class into poverty, cuz thats what bush and the capitalistic interests did for 8 years, evident by massive influx of money to this election towards republican and teas, now where did they come up with those money when we (middle class) are all in recession ????

    and when this happens the incentives are lost and the economy continues to get worse and worse and worse
    ~it's worst because of the republican formula, duh 1+1=3 not 2... do the math


    ps. your facts are soundbytes, not truth...
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    Nov 03, 2010 8:25 PM GMT
    Nonsense. Free healthcare only encourages laziness for the people who already can't afford it and it burdens the people who are the job-makers. Where did you get these totally unrealistic ideas?

    ~studies across the globe with freeworld market and universal health care (except theirs require increase taxation), however economy wise, they are hot as hurting as the americans... again, read credible sources. Heck even Taiwan have Universal Health Care, and Japan has Universal Health Care.

    Fact: We owe more from Japan than China... again, read credible sources and not just rep/teas soundbytes
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    Nov 03, 2010 8:28 PM GMT
    Christian73 saidThat's a great succinct overview, except you forgot about the "investigations."

    Frankly, I think Holder should begin investigating all the Bush cronies for war crimes and election fraud and all the other illegal shit they did. Same with Wall Street. It's obvious that despite Obama's attempts to be bipartisan, these animals are not interested. So I say go scorched earth on them. Nothing is going to get done anyway.




    That's why holding the Senate was such a sweet victory last night.
    The Senate Dems have the power to do a little investigating of their own if necessary.
    Just for a little "fair and balanced" check and balance, lol.