Florida Votes In New Governor With Long History Of Corruption

  • metta

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    Nov 04, 2010 7:53 AM GMT
    Florida Votes In New Governor With Long History Of Corruption

    GOV.-ELECT RICK SCOTT

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_11/026456.php
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    Nov 04, 2010 8:32 AM GMT
    only in Florida...
  • GQjock

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    Nov 04, 2010 10:14 AM GMT
    Oh Florida ....... icon_cool.gif

    The State that gave us George W Bush in 2000
    and his brother Jeb

    Now you've elected a man who ran a Healthcare company that bilked Medicare to the tune of Hundreds of millions of dollars????????

    Well at least I gotta say ...you're consistent icon_neutral.gif
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    Nov 04, 2010 10:39 AM GMT
    Did anyone notice that the new FL senator, Marco Rubio, family man etc., had good ol' boy Jeb Bush on his stage waiting to receive him with open arms and coffers? Glad to see 'change' means old Bush family connections...icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Nov 04, 2010 10:41 AM GMT
    This is old news. I wondered why voters didn't think this was an issue, but I don't live in Florida (thank God), so it's easy enough for me to file it away.
  • GQjock

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    Nov 04, 2010 10:42 AM GMT
    What? You thought that re-electing republicans would be different this time?

    Note to people who voted republican ............... when you fall down a flight of stairs?

    Take the elevator icon_wink.gif
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    Nov 04, 2010 1:25 PM GMT
    The reality of living here...and trust me, I'm having second thoughts....is that the underlying message of all Florida politics for the past decade has been essentially rich white guys afraid of anyone who isn't a rich white guy. Period. Even if you're poor, you want to pretend you can be rich one day, and we all know the only thing standing in your way is people of color, so fuck'em!

    This year is a back-lash against Obama. Read - the black guy.
    If I'd paid attention in High School I would have seen this coming. It's the same thing as a back-lash against the Harvard-bound black class president who looked and sounded just like you and so you thought "that's cool" but then he took the junk-food vending machine out of the cafeteria, and it turns out he's not a very good running back, and we lost the division title (which of course had NOTHING to do with all the fat, slow, stoned white guys on the team...oh noooooo!) so let's run that ******* out of town! Ooooo, and to think he swam in my pool!!!!!!

    It's all not-so-carefully disguised racism (which is just a branch of general ignorance and fear which has plagued the South for longer than I can remember...based in "it's my money, and I'm going to keep it, fuck you, get off my porch.")

    If you're rich and conservative/fundamentalist you run/vote for people who look like they came out of 1950's classroom education films on good hygiene and hope nobody notices that they're just crooks or that they screwed the preacher's wife. Jesus will forgive him, just as soon as my muni-bonds are worth something again.

    If you're rich and liberal, and feeling guilty about being either, you pretend Obama tricked you (like he was the black kid you thought needed your charity but turns out was actually richer and smart than you, so what fucking good is that on your social resume!?) So, you run/vote for people who look like the jr. high guidance counselor with the possibly ethnic last name who learned to shop at Nordstrom's and dress "properly" and can put those uppity folks in their place with a Julia Sugarbaker monologue on what really matters.

    And then you fuck over anybody whose Daddy didn't fight for the confederacy and retire in comfort someplace in North Carolina.

    It's a depressing fucking week for any socially responsible, well-educated, progressive, evolved Floridian. Cops, firefighters, teachers and anyone else with a job that serves the betterment of the community can kiss your pension good-bye. We're fucked, kids, we're just fucked. But the good news is that we'll be handing out mortgages like candy in short order, so come get your over-valued home from the same bank that put you in debt the first time!

    Canada is looking SO appealing this morning.
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    Nov 04, 2010 1:28 PM GMT
    The more things change the more they stay the same.

    I guess we can kiss the chances of a reasoned third-party ever winning in this country good-bye.

    Neither the Libertarians or Greens won in Ohio. icon_sad.gif
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    Nov 04, 2010 1:53 PM GMT
    The politics of total terror strikes well in the elderly here.. how do you think ol' Scott took em for the money he stole from them?
    The elderly are NOT smart..nor are the rednecks..
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    Nov 04, 2010 1:55 PM GMT
    Oh and one more thing.. the 'FAGGOT' community here in florida SAT ON ITS ASS and did nothing..........
    There are some that actually vote.. the majority ESPECIALLY the young (and I'd bet a good number on this site) didnt bother to even vote nor are they registered..
  • turtleneckjoc...

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    Nov 04, 2010 1:58 PM GMT
    MuscleComeBack saidThe reality of living here...and trust me, I'm having second thoughts....is that the underlying message of all Florida politics for the past decade has been essentially rich white guys afraid of anyone who isn't a rich white guy. Period. Even if you're poor, you want to pretend you can be rich one day, and we all know the only thing standing in your way is people of color, so fuck'em!

    This year is a back-lash against Obama. Read - the black guy.
    If I'd paid attention in High School I would have seen this coming. It's the same thing as a back-lash against the Harvard-bound black class president who looked and sounded just like you and so you thought "that's cool" but then he took the junk-food vending machine out of the cafeteria, and it turns out he's not a very good running back, and we lost the division title (which of course had NOTHING to do with all the fat, slow, stoned white guys on the team...oh noooooo!) so let's run that ******* out of town! Ooooo, and to think he swam in my pool!!!!!!

    It's all not-so-carefully disguised racism (which is just a branch of general ignorance and fear which has plagued the South for longer than I can remember...based in "it's my money, and I'm going to keep it, fuck you, get off my porch.")

    If you're rich and conservative/fundamentalist you run/vote for people who look like they came out of 1950's classroom education films on good hygiene and hope nobody notices that they're just crooks or that they screwed the preacher's wife. Jesus will forgive him, just as soon as my muni-bonds are worth something again.

    If you're rich and liberal, and feeling guilty about being either, you pretend Obama tricked you (like he was the black kid you thought needed your charity but turns out was actually richer and smart than you, so what fucking good is that on your social resume!?) So, you run/vote for people who look like the jr. high guidance counselor with the possibly ethnic last name who learned to shop at Nordstrom's and dress "properly" and can put those uppity folks in their place with a Julia Sugarbaker monologue on what really matters.

    And then you fuck over anybody whose Daddy didn't fight for the confederacy and retire in comfort someplace in North Carolina.

    It's a depressing fucking week for any socially responsible, well-educated, progressive, evolved Floridian. Cops, firefighters, teachers and anyone else with a job that serves the betterment of the community can kiss your pension good-bye. We're fucked, kids, we're just fucked. But the good news is that we'll be handing out mortgages like candy in short order, so come get your over-valued home from the same bank that put you in debt the first time!

    Canada is looking SO appealing this morning.


    Everything you have said here is what I have mentioned in other Forum topics. This is very, very true.

    To those that do not live in Florida (consider yourselves very lucky), this is NORMAL life here. This is how it has been since Jeb Bush walked into the Governor's Mansion in 1998.

    We just haven't gotten around to putting up the "Colored Entrance" signs up and making sure there are two water fountains around.....Give it time.
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    Nov 04, 2010 1:59 PM GMT
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    MuscleComeBack saidThe reality of living here...and trust me, I'm having second thoughts....is that the underlying message of all Florida politics for the past decade has been essentially rich white guys afraid of anyone who isn't a rich white guy. Period. Even if you're poor, you want to pretend you can be rich one day, and we all know the only thing standing in your way is people of color, so fuck'em!

    This year is a back-lash against Obama. Read - the black guy.
    If I'd paid attention in High School I would have seen this coming. It's the same thing as a back-lash against the Harvard-bound black class president who looked and sounded just like you and so you thought "that's cool" but then he took the junk-food vending machine out of the cafeteria, and it turns out he's not a very good running back, and we lost the division title (which of course had NOTHING to do with all the fat, slow, stoned white guys on the team...oh noooooo!) so let's run that ******* out of town! Ooooo, and to think he swam in my pool!!!!!!

    It's all not-so-carefully disguised racism (which is just a branch of general ignorance and fear which has plagued the South for longer than I can remember...based in "it's my money, and I'm going to keep it, fuck you, get off my porch.")

    If you're rich and conservative/fundamentalist you run/vote for people who look like they came out of 1950's classroom education films on good hygiene and hope nobody notices that they're just crooks or that they screwed the preacher's wife. Jesus will forgive him, just as soon as my muni-bonds are worth something again.

    If you're rich and liberal, and feeling guilty about being either, you pretend Obama tricked you (like he was the black kid you thought needed your charity but turns out was actually richer and smart than you, so what fucking good is that on your social resume!?) So, you run/vote for people who look like the jr. high guidance counselor with the possibly ethnic last name who learned to shop at Nordstrom's and dress "properly" and can put those uppity folks in their place with a Julia Sugarbaker monologue on what really matters.

    And then you fuck over anybody whose Daddy didn't fight for the confederacy and retire in comfort someplace in North Carolina.

    It's a depressing fucking week for any socially responsible, well-educated, progressive, evolved Floridian. Cops, firefighters, teachers and anyone else with a job that serves the betterment of the community can kiss your pension good-bye. We're fucked, kids, we're just fucked. But the good news is that we'll be handing out mortgages like candy in short order, so come get your over-valued home from the same bank that put you in debt the first time!

    Canada is looking SO appealing this morning.


    Everything you have said here is what I have mentioned in other Forum topics. This is very, very true.

    To those that do not live in Florida (consider yourselves very lucky), this is NORMAL life here. This is how it has been since Jeb Bush walked into the Governor's Mansion in 1998.

    We just haven't gotten around to putting up the "Colored Entrance" signs up and making sure there are two water fountains around.....Give it time.


    Is Florida really that bad? I guess I've been spending too much time in Miami/Fort Lauderdale/Palm Beach and the Keys. Who knew?!
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    Nov 04, 2010 2:01 PM GMT
    It does give a Floridian reason to ponder where he resides but, then again, if I leave here I can't vote here.
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    Nov 04, 2010 2:03 PM GMT
    cmhoh1985 said
    turtleneckjock said
    MuscleComeBack saidThe reality of living here...and trust me, I'm having second thoughts....is that the underlying message of all Florida politics for the past decade has been essentially rich white guys afraid of anyone who isn't a rich white guy. Period. Even if you're poor, you want to pretend you can be rich one day, and we all know the only thing standing in your way is people of color, so fuck'em!

    This year is a back-lash against Obama. Read - the black guy.
    If I'd paid attention in High School I would have seen this coming. It's the same thing as a back-lash against the Harvard-bound black class president who looked and sounded just like you and so you thought "that's cool" but then he took the junk-food vending machine out of the cafeteria, and it turns out he's not a very good running back, and we lost the division title (which of course had NOTHING to do with all the fat, slow, stoned white guys on the team...oh noooooo!) so let's run that ******* out of town! Ooooo, and to think he swam in my pool!!!!!!

    It's all not-so-carefully disguised racism (which is just a branch of general ignorance and fear which has plagued the South for longer than I can remember...based in "it's my money, and I'm going to keep it, fuck you, get off my porch.")

    If you're rich and conservative/fundamentalist you run/vote for people who look like they came out of 1950's classroom education films on good hygiene and hope nobody notices that they're just crooks or that they screwed the preacher's wife. Jesus will forgive him, just as soon as my muni-bonds are worth something again.

    If you're rich and liberal, and feeling guilty about being either, you pretend Obama tricked you (like he was the black kid you thought needed your charity but turns out was actually richer and smart than you, so what fucking good is that on your social resume!?) So, you run/vote for people who look like the jr. high guidance counselor with the possibly ethnic last name who learned to shop at Nordstrom's and dress "properly" and can put those uppity folks in their place with a Julia Sugarbaker monologue on what really matters.

    And then you fuck over anybody whose Daddy didn't fight for the confederacy and retire in comfort someplace in North Carolina.

    It's a depressing fucking week for any socially responsible, well-educated, progressive, evolved Floridian. Cops, firefighters, teachers and anyone else with a job that serves the betterment of the community can kiss your pension good-bye. We're fucked, kids, we're just fucked. But the good news is that we'll be handing out mortgages like candy in short order, so come get your over-valued home from the same bank that put you in debt the first time!

    Canada is looking SO appealing this morning.


    Everything you have said here is what I have mentioned in other Forum topics. This is very, very true.

    To those that do not live in Florida (consider yourselves very lucky), this is NORMAL life here. This is how it has been since Jeb Bush walked into the Governor's Mansion in 1998.

    We just haven't gotten around to putting up the "Colored Entrance" signs up and making sure there are two water fountains around.....Give it time.


    Is Florida really that bad? I guess I've been spending too much time in Miami/Fort Lauderdale/Palm Beach and the Keys. Who knew?!



    South Florida and North Florida couldn't possibly be more different. I think we should have two states.
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    Nov 04, 2010 2:05 PM GMT
    Yes, cmhoh1985, it is that bad. Florida is a very diverse state and the Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach County areas are insulated from what really goes on in this Confederate Flag waiving state....
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    Nov 04, 2010 2:05 PM GMT
    muscles4muscles said

    South Florida and North Florida couldn't possibly be more different. I think we should have two states.
    Anything north of I4 (including Hillsborough county) would be a good line!
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    turtleneckjock saidYes, cmhoh1985, it is that bad. Florida is a very diverse state and the Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach County areas are insulated from what really goes on in this Confederate Flag waiving state....
    You forgot to add Pinellas to that list.. a STRONG blue county!
  • MuscleComeBac...

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    Nov 04, 2010 2:08 PM GMT
    cmhoh1985 said
    Is Florida really that bad? I guess I've been spending too much time in Miami/Fort Lauderdale/Palm Beach and the Keys. Who knew?!


    Yes, it's that bad. If South Florida truly cared enough to get out and vote in numbers equal to their constant liberal flag-waving insistence that they're New York with better beaches and year-round sun, then we'd have balance. But tucked quietly away in Bal Harbor and Ft. Lauderdale penthouses are people who are either not going to the polls because they're at the pools or they're secretly voting their bank-accounts and not their brains. The numbers don't match the posturing. Sorry. Yes, it's that bad.
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    Nov 04, 2010 2:12 PM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    turtleneckjock saidYes, cmhoh1985, it is that bad. Florida is a very diverse state and the Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach County areas are insulated from what really goes on in this Confederate Flag waiving state....
    You forgot to add Pinellas to that list.. a STRONG blue county!


    Yes, and thanks to one of my favorite Florida counties, Pinellas, for going for Alex Sink.

    Here is something very interesting though....I used to live in Osceola County until 18 months ago. Osceola was about as "Good Old Boy" as it could be. Very conservative. Votes Republican. In the last 3 election cycles, Osceola has gone from an area populated by rednecks and cattle ranchers to one that is very Hispanic and Democratic trending. Osceola now has 3 Democrats on their County Commission when going into the 2008 election, there were 5 Republicans....and went for Obama in '08.
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    Nov 04, 2010 2:18 PM GMT
    But herein lies part of the problem: we get overly confident that as goes OUR county, so goes the state, so a huge percentage don't go to the polls, and eventually, that all turns over again in a few cycles, and no real progress is made.

    This is South Florida's problem, in part. The majority count on the few to do the work on election day and then sit back and say "well, we did our part!" NO, no you didn't! You didn't get out in numbers equal to what we needed to hold ground.

    Hell, Orange county had just over 10% of fucking registered voters bother to go to the polls. TEN PERCENT!

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    MuscleComeBack saidBut herein lies part of the problem: we get overly confident that as goes OUR county, so goes the state, so a huge percentage don't go to the polls, and eventually, that all turns over again in a few cycles, and no real progress is made.

    This is South Florida's problem, in part. The majority count on the few to do the work on election day and then sit back and say "well, we did our part!" NO, no you didn't! You didn't get out in numbers equal to what we needed to hold ground.

    Hell, Orange county had just over 10% of fucking registered voters bother to go to the polls. TEN PERCENT!

    Thats what I'm talking about!.. and there are MORE 'gays' over the age of 18 in Orange county than 10 percent of eligible voters in that county..
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    Nov 04, 2010 2:31 PM GMT
    yeah, I know....it's just pathetic. Pathetic.

    You ask young gay men here if they voted and they look at you like you asked if they'd cover your shift during Gay Days. They're too busy tanning to bother understanding what's at stake. Sorry to generalize, but it's true. I love me some young gay activists, but they sure as hell don't live here, at least not in numbers. Even if they were registered, they're too busy grooming for their "Prince" call-back at Disney to bother driving "in the rain, man!" to cast a ballot.

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    Nov 04, 2010 2:32 PM GMT
    There's something sickly poetic about a state with so many elderly retirees electing a governor who bilked Medicare and it part of the Republican/Tea Party machine who'd like to dismantle any form of public health care, be it Medicare, Medicaid, SSI, etc.

    It's like the over 60 Tea Party rally attendees with signs that say "Don't touch my Medicare" who don't realize that what many Tea Party advocates push would result in the end of said program. But then when queried most elderly people don't realize Social Security and Medicare are government programs. They think it's some super fund they paid into all their life and now deserve in return, not realizing the rate at which they contributed pales to what they extract.
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    Nov 04, 2010 2:41 PM GMT
    But that's most Americans. period. They can't budget.

    I'm Fifty fucking one years old, and I have had a monthly budget since the day I turned 16. I knew what I had to spend and what I was earning. Yet, more than 80 percent of my friends and colleagues (who range in age from 22 to 82) look like this
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    when they moan about their bills and expenses and I say "so, what's your monthly nut? What's your household budget?"

    Dude, they can't tell you how much is coming in and how much is going out. They use phrases like "oh, about X" About? Is it fixed? "What do you mean by fixed?" Same amount each month or week "Oh, yeah, I get a check" Okay, so how much is that check and what does it total to each month. "I don't know."

    Really?!

    Mind you, I'm not prodding for numbers, I'm just asking them to total it and compare it to their expenses and then figure out where to budget. But they live in a world of pure ignorance when it comes to understanding debt, expenses, income, living within your means. It's crazy!

    I have one friend who started a business, and it's floundering so he asked me to come help him figure things out. HE OWNS this business, right? So my first question was "what is your bottom line each month?" And he didn't know. He didn't know what costs were fixed, what costs were variable, and hadn't figured out what it took - bare minimum - to keep his doors open each month. WTF!!!!!!??????????

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    Nov 04, 2010 2:44 PM GMT
    RunintheCity saidThere's something sickly poetic about a state with so many elderly retirees electing a governor who bilked Medicare and it part of the Republican/Tea Party machine who'd like to dismantle any form of public health care, be it Medicare, Medicaid, SSI, etc.

    It's like the over 60 Tea Party rally attendees with signs that say "Don't touch my Medicare" who don't realize that what many Tea Party advocates push would result in the end of said program. But then when queried most elderly people don't realize Social Security and Medicare are government programs. They think it's some super fund they paid into all their life and now deserve in return, not realizing the rate at which they contributed pales to what they extract.
    The LOUDEST screamers condemning 'socialized health care' are at the VA! (the VA IS socialized government health care!) Go figure..... I hear it all the time!