Can YOU identify my bedroom?

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    Nov 04, 2010 2:33 PM GMT
    I realized yesterday while attempting an arty shot for my new avatar that if anyone could identify my bedroom set it'd probably be an antique expert from Realjock. Aside from one dealer referring to it as "Waterfall" no one can tell me the manufacturer or value of the set. There are no identifying marks, labels or serial numbers. I probably first figured out I was gay as a kid because I was so enamored of it - since inheriting it from Grandma it's one of my gayest possessions. She bought it in 1927 on her honeymoon; after the crash of '29 she got practical and never bought another nice thing - I'm the second owner. Here are some pics:

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    The set consists of:

    - one full headboard (the base recently expanded seamlessly to a king)
    - one dresser with mirror (poseable action figure not included)
    - one nightstand
    - one low chest with attached full length mirror (the chair reflected in the mirror is a good match but not part of the set)
    - one high dresser
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    Nov 04, 2010 3:50 PM GMT
    It's not waterfall as the term is commonly applied.

    Waterfall is basically a catch all meaning molded plywood furniture, known for it's round curves and sometimes applied Victorian motif. Take a look at the furniture. Is any of it constructed of plywood with a veneer surface?

    I willing to bet this is very old real Victorian or pre-Victorian stuff.

    -Doug

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    Nov 04, 2010 7:28 PM GMT
    Questions & comments:

    - Is there a footboard? I would have expected one from that era, since a period bed frame consisted of wood siderails between the headboard & footboard, and then crossrails between them.

    - Are those decorative details all inlay, or applique?

    - Don't EVER put a modern stereo on top of such pieces.

    - This is the kind of stuff they love on Antiques Roadshow. You'd only be able to bring a piece or 2 onto the show with you, but that would be enough.
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    Nov 04, 2010 7:34 PM GMT
    Maple burl.
    'Regency' style.
    (Let's see how the pieces are joined.)
    Keep it and enjoy it in good health!
    Interesting alabaster pieces and Egyptianizing glazed vase (Tut's tomb was discovered in 1922).
    Your smile is awesome. I didn't recognize you at first!

    edit 12/5/2010:
    After having seen the joints and backs I would say reminiscent of the "Regency Style" (perhaps that's what "Waterfall" is about?).
    Probably late 19th century at earliest, probably relatively contemporary with its' purchase by your grandmother.
    Just a note on those alabaster pieces and glazed vase I noted above. The discovery of Tut's tomb in 1922 brought on a new Egyptianizing fad in modern architecture and small items. Your grandmother's stuff was very common in those days.
    All very nice. Enjoy it all and use it in good health!
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    Nov 04, 2010 7:55 PM GMT
    meninlove saidIs any of it constructed of plywood with a veneer surface?

    -Doug

    Plywood should not have been used in furniture of the alleged period, if the provenance is correct. But veneer was used on some of the best & most expensive furniture.

    The basic structure was made of hardwood, for strength and environmental stability. And also in some cases the ability to be steam bent and worked. Then a thin veneer of more precious and delicate woods was overlaid, with grain patterns carefully chosen & matched, another thing that could not be accomplished with the structural hardwoods alone.

    (One of the notable exceptions is Cherry, which has a tight, attractive grain from almost any view that finishes well, and also meets all of the structural requirements for sturdy furniture.)

    It was this extra craftsmanship that made veneer MORE expensive than most of the solid-wood furniture in earlier times. Looking at the drawers, with their geometric fronts, I would assume they are veneer.

    As for the style, it hints of Second Empire. But the headboard & mirrors have muted Art Nouveau elements. This all suggests to me a late 19th-Century French influence, or something trying to emulate it.

    But I'm not really versed on this subject, just making some guesses & suggestions for your research.
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    Nov 05, 2010 2:18 AM GMT
    Thanks guys, you clearly know a lot more about antiques than I do. I always considered the set to be circa 1920s transitional nouveau/deco (if there's such a thing), particularly since to my knowledge there was never a footboard. Everything's inlaid, no applique. All original hardware/knobs, none missing. The pics are actually unflattering; the set's in better condition than it appears in photos. No damage from the stereo; it's tiny, doesn't let off a lot of heat, is dusted under regularly and sits on a cork coaster. Here are 3/4 and back pics of the nightstand plus closeup shots of the joinery and innards:

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    Nov 05, 2010 2:20 AM GMT
    BuddyinNYC saidYour smile is awesome. I didn't recognize you at first!

    Thanks Buddy!
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    Nov 05, 2010 2:22 AM GMT
    Well that furniture is not the gayest things you own.. I see two beeeeutiful looking poodles there.
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    Nov 05, 2010 2:26 AM GMT
    I LOVE the furniture, especially the headboard and the mirror!

    The pictures are great...especially the last one! If I buy the whole set, do you come with the furniture! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Nov 05, 2010 2:28 AM GMT
    beneful1 saidWell that furniture is not the gayest things you own.. I see two beeeeutiful looking poodles there.

    Nothing gay about my bad boys!

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    Nov 05, 2010 2:31 AM GMT
    turtleneckjock saidI LOVE the furniture, especially the headboard and the mirror!

    The pictures are great...especially the last one! If I buy the whole set, do you come with the furniture! icon_biggrin.gif

    Much appreciated, but you missed the fine print at the bottom: "poseable action figure not included"
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    Nov 05, 2010 2:42 AM GMT
    Is this some kind of new group activity thread? No, I've never been inside your bedroom. Stop getting so inebriated and you could remember the tricks you pick up.
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    Nov 05, 2010 3:12 AM GMT
    that furniture is really, really high quality stuff
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    Nov 05, 2010 3:32 AM GMT
    eagermuscle said
    turtleneckjock said[...]
    The pictures are great...especially the last one! If I buy the whole set, do you come with the furniture! icon_biggrin.gif

    Much appreciated, but you missed the fine print at the bottom: "poseable action figure not included"


    That could still be interpreted.
    There is an action figure. It IS poseABLE. The possibility still exists that it can be a separate deal.- Probably preferable to all sides too.
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    Nov 05, 2010 3:39 AM GMT
    Nice furniture and i must say, they do not make em like this anymore! Also seems like u have a beautiful home, good for you!
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    Dec 05, 2010 5:19 AM GMT
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    Figured I'd bump this thread periodically since I'm having no luck identifying the furniture and amongst this posse of real jocks there has to be some antique experts!
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    Dec 05, 2010 5:23 AM GMT
    eagermuscle saidThanks guys, you clearly know a lot more about antiques than I do. I always considered the set to be circa 1920s transitional nouveau/deco (if there's such a thing), particularly since to my knowledge there was never a footboard. Everything's inlaid, no applique. All original hardware/knobs, none missing. The pics are actually unflattering; the set's in better condition than it appears in photos. No damage from the stereo; it's tiny, doesn't let off a lot of heat, is dusted under regularly and sits on a cork coaster. Here are 3/4 and back pics of the nightstand plus closeup shots of the joinery and innards:

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    Someone shot a hell of a load on the back of that night stand
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    Dec 05, 2010 5:26 AM GMT
    I'd guess it's Ikea, circa 1927.
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    Dec 05, 2010 6:41 AM GMT
    wow... most ppl that own nice stuff like that are modest.. but not you icon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 05, 2010 7:40 AM GMT
    I have no clue , but the craftmanship is beautiful ......
    First class Poodles too ......icon_smile.gif
  • Webster666

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    Dec 05, 2010 7:47 AM GMT
    I suspect that the Keno brothers would be close to orgasm while fondling those beautiful pieces of furniture.

    Take some pics to a high end auction house, and ask them what you've got.
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    Dec 05, 2010 7:05 PM GMT
    mkubwa saidwow... most ppl that own nice stuff like that are modest.. but not you icon_biggrin.gif

    I guess you're referring to my pics? I was modest when I got the set; less so now. I'm just going through a phase. Re posting them here, like my profile says: "There's a lot more to me than cheesy beefcake shots but this is a 'jock' site so most of my pics reflect that."

    BuddyinNYC saidAfter having seen the joints and backs I would say reminiscent of the "Regency Style" (perhaps that's what "Waterfall" is about?). Probably late 19th century at earliest, probably relatively contemporary with its' purchase by your grandmother. Just a note on those alabaster pieces and glazed vase I noted above. The discovery of Tut's tomb in 1922 brought on a new Egyptianizing fad in modern architecture and small items. Your grandmother's stuff was very common in those days.

    Thanks for the update, Buddy!

    mybud saidSomeone shot a hell of a load on the back of that night stand

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    What can I say, I practice yoga. And did I mention I had a thing for gymnasts? "Oh, yes he did!" - http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/516131/
  • rnch

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    Dec 05, 2010 7:10 PM GMT
    if anyone is unsure of your sexual orientation....one glance at your bedroom would settle any nagging doubts!! icon_lol.gif
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    Dec 05, 2010 7:11 PM GMT
    Not sure about the origin of furniture, but it is really beautiful and regal.
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    Dec 05, 2010 7:15 PM GMT
    rnch saidia anyone is unsure of your sexual orientation....one glance at your bedroom would settle any doubts!! icon_lol.gif

    Given that the set was purchased by my grandparents it DOES recall the 'nature versus nurture' argument. But wouldn't my lack of antique expertise raise doubts?