31% of self-identified gay voters supported Republican candidates

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    Nov 04, 2010 4:31 PM GMT
    Gay conservative group GOProud points to exit polls showing that the Republican party captured almost one-third of the gay vote in House races as evidence of a gay affinity for the Tea Party.

    GOProud hailed the data as proof of gay voters’ role in helping the Republican party achieve historic gains on the way to its House takeover. By extension, the evidence also suggests that many gay Americans embrace the Tea Party’s limited government message, claims the group.

    “According to CNN,” says a statement from GOProud, “31% of self-identified gay voters supported Republican candidates for the U.S. House. This number is a dramatic increase from the 19% GOP House candidates won among gay voters in 2008.”

    “The gay left would have you believe that gay conservatives don’t exist,” said GOProud executive director Jimmy LaSalvia. “Now we see that almost a third of self-identified gay voters cast ballots for Republican candidates for Congress in this year’s mid-term. This should be a wake-up call for the out-of-touch so-called leadership of Gay, Inc. in Washington, D.C., which has become little more than a subsidiary of the Democrat Party.”

    A GOProud television advertising campaign for Republican House and Senate candidates this year marked the first time a national gay group aired a television ad against Democrats, says the group.

    Let the on-line acrimony begin!
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    Nov 04, 2010 4:43 PM GMT
    Very interesting. There are many fiscally conservative RJ members, but most do not post actively in the political threads.

    One of the liberals claims that anyone who is on the site that has a conservative viewpoint is not really gay but was sent as a secret agent to sow discontent and confusion among the gay community. But he only posts in spurts every few days, so I think it is related to his cycle of meds.
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    Nov 04, 2010 4:44 PM GMT
    Self-loathing is tragic.
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    Nov 04, 2010 4:45 PM GMT
    There is no gay reason to vote Democrat since they aren't doing anything substantial in our interest.

    Think how different the election dynamics would have been if there had been a rush of enthusiastic gays going to the polls.

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    Nov 04, 2010 4:48 PM GMT
    OK, so the republican party (with very few exceptions) thinks you are immoral, do not deserve basic human rights. Equal treatment ? - not for gay people. Yet these 30% say, "I'd like some more please." Yup, a little self hatred goes a long way.

    Gay people who support the republican party do not even have the balls to say, "No money, No votes, No support, until you treat me like a human being with equal rights".

    To claim there is no difference between the Democratic Party (which too often is spineless) and the Republican Party (which is controlled by their anti-gay religious extreme) is not only inaccurate and blind to reality, but is intellectually dishonest.

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    Nov 04, 2010 4:48 PM GMT
    This is no surprise and you will continue seeing this number get higher. Many people in the gay/lesbian community are very sucessful in business and other professions. They want to keep their hard earned money.

    Things are already going great. I'm sitting here in my office eating my lunch and checking stocks on CNBC and they have skyrocketed. People are happy about the Republican Takeover. And this afternoon Obama finally said something smart, he said he would be open for extending the tax cuts for all brackets. This has shot the market up even more. Man this has been a great week so far.
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    Nov 04, 2010 4:49 PM GMT
    Caslon16000 saidThere is no gay reason to vote Democrat since they aren't doing anything substantial in our interest.



    Really? Don't know about where you live, but where I live, the Democratic Party gave us marriage equality. The Republicans would repeal it in a flash, if they could.
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    Nov 04, 2010 5:09 PM GMT
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    Caslon16000 saidThere is no gay reason to vote Democrat since they aren't doing anything substantial in our interest.



    Really? Don't know about where you live, but where I live, the Democratic Party gave us marriage equality. The Republicans would repeal it in a flash, if they could.

    I keep my location secret in my profile ... icon_rolleyes.gif

    You undoubtedly know that the vast majority of gay America doesn't have any marriage rights. So your rather stupidly smug response makes you look a whole lot like an ass. And such an impression doesn't bolster the crdibility of your responses.

    And I reiterate, if the Dems are not going to take our issues seriously and act on them expeditiously, then we might as well vote our other personal interests.
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    Nov 04, 2010 5:23 PM GMT
    Outdoormutt saidOK, so the republican party (with very few exceptions) thinks you are immoral, do not deserve basic human rights. Equal treatment ? - not for gay people. Yet these 30% say, "I'd like some more please." Yup, a little self hatred goes a long way.

    Gay people who support the republican party do not even have the balls to say, "No money, No votes, No support, until you treat me like a human being with equal rights".

    To claim there is no difference between the Democratic Party (which too often is spineless) and the Republican Party (which is controlled by their anti-gay religious extreme) is not only inaccurate and blind to reality, but is intellectually dishonest.


    Can you back up your assertions with polls or other evidence. In the absence of such, they are wild and totally unfounded.
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    Nov 04, 2010 5:25 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidVery interesting. There are many fiscally conservative RJ members, but most do not post actively in the political threads.



    and who could blame them
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    Nov 04, 2010 5:28 PM GMT
    You know, on another I basically said many disillusioned liberals, who criticize their own party and it's members (something I see a dearth of with conservatives) did not vote democratic party this time around, and was told I was wrong...... icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif by Socal.

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    Outdoormutt saidOK, so the republican party (with very few exceptions) thinks you are immoral, do not deserve basic human rights. Equal treatment ? - not for gay people. Yet these 30% say, "I'd like some more please." Yup, a little self hatred goes a long way.

    Gay people who support the republican party do not even have the balls to say, "No money, No votes, No support, until you treat me like a human being with equal rights".

    To claim there is no difference between the Democratic Party (which too often is spineless) and the Republican Party (which is controlled by their anti-gay religious extreme) is not only inaccurate and blind to reality, but is intellectually dishonest.


    Can you back up your assertions with polls or other evidence. In the absence of such, they are wild and totally unfounded.



    I would like one of the liberals (or anybody) on this board to tell me what the Democratic Party does for the gay community besides using them for votes.
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    Nov 04, 2010 5:33 PM GMT
    meninlove said You know, on another I basically said many disillusioned liberals, who criticize their own party and it's members (something I see a dearth of with conservatives) did not vote democratic party this time around, and was told I was wrong...... icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif by Socal.

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    Not exactly sure what you refer to, but I will guess, and paraphrase. You said the main reason the Democrats lost was the lack of enthusiasm among their supporters. I said no. That was a factor, but the more important reason was the erosion of independent support that in 2008 went to the Dems now went to the Reps.

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    Nov 04, 2010 5:34 PM GMT
    Caslon16000 saidThere is no gay reason to vote Democrat since they aren't doing anything substantial in our interest.

    Think how different the election dynamics would have been if there had been a rush of enthusiastic gays going to the polls.



    But the Republicans outright hate us.

    Also the republicans have incredibly stupid approach to environmental safety, Medicare, Medicaid, and the likes.
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    Nov 04, 2010 5:35 PM GMT
    Actually CHRIS6464, if you look through these topics you'll see many instances where those things have been listed.

    I keep asking for a list of what the Republican Party has done for gay equality and I keep getting fed, "It's not important." or "the economy is more important" and such by conservatives here on RJ.

    So now I'll ask you.....

    -Doug
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    Nov 04, 2010 5:36 PM GMT
    Caslon16000 said
    Outdoormutt said
    Caslon16000 saidThere is no gay reason to vote Democrat since they aren't doing anything substantial in our interest.



    Really? Don't know about where you live, but where I live, the Democratic Party gave us marriage equality. The Republicans would repeal it in a flash, if they could.

    I keep my location secret in my profile ... icon_rolleyes.gif

    You undoubtedly know that the vast majority of gay America doesn't have any marriage rights. So your rather stupidly smug response makes you look a whole lot like an ass. And such an impression doesn't bolster the crdibility of your responses.

    And I reiterate, if the Dems are not going to take our issues seriously and act on them expeditiously, then we might as well vote our other personal interests.


    Actually your willful ignorance makes YOU look like an ass.
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    Nov 04, 2010 5:38 PM GMT
    lol Socal, this is what I said..

    "I think they lost so badly because the liberals (unlike how SB likes to pretend they are, sheep) were very critical of their president and decided to demonstrate it. "

    ....and you said,
    "No. The loss of enthusiasm among the liberals was not the major factor. They lost badly because they lost the independents."

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    Nov 04, 2010 5:49 PM GMT
    I cannot speak for gay Americans, but I can speak for we gay Kiwis. The percentage of gay voters voting conservative will track the percentages of most other groups in a country when the anti-gay rhetoric subsides. The party espousing an anti-gay platform will receive fewer gay votes.

    It appears at least from the outside this year, that conservatives in America knew this was not a gay/anti-gay vote, but an economic vote. While most nations, even rigid social democracies in Europe, see the need to pull back from heavy government spending -- and especially the creation of new entitlements on top of massive debt -- Barack Obama and his wing of the party seem head long in doing otherwise.

    Don't kid yoursleves. This is not for the good of all. This is for the vision he created as expressed in his own writings. Has he created the institution of the Civil Marriage in America? Hardly. It seems to me many gay Americans have created illusion where no fact resides.
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    Nov 04, 2010 5:51 PM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    Caslon16000 saidThere is no gay reason to vote Democrat since they aren't doing anything substantial in our interest.

    Think how different the election dynamics would have been if there had been a rush of enthusiastic gays going to the polls.



    But the Republicans outright hate us.


    Have you thought about sharing these fears with a licensed professional? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Nov 04, 2010 5:53 PM GMT
    meninlove saidActually CHRIS6464, if you look through these topics you'll see many instances where those things have been listed.

    I keep asking for a list of what the Republican Party has done for gay equality and I keep getting fed, "It's not important." or "the economy is more important" and such by conservatives here on RJ.

    So now I'll ask you.....

    -Doug



    I guess you missed that little thing the Log Cabin Republicans did to help repeal DADT?
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    CuriousJockAZ said
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    Caslon16000 saidThere is no gay reason to vote Democrat since they aren't doing anything substantial in our interest.

    Think how different the election dynamics would have been if there had been a rush of enthusiastic gays going to the polls.



    But the Republicans outright hate us.


    Have you thought about sharing these fears with a licensed professional? icon_rolleyes.gif


    Have you thought about seeing a professional for your tenuous grip on reality?

    Which candidates are calling gays immoral? What side of the aisle is the anti-gay rhetoric coming from? What side of the aisle do most religious fundamentalist side with?

    Are you naive or just plain stupid?
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    Nov 04, 2010 6:19 PM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    Caslon16000 saidThere is no gay reason to vote Democrat since they aren't doing anything substantial in our interest.

    Think how different the election dynamics would have been if there had been a rush of enthusiastic gays going to the polls.



    But the Republicans outright hate us.


    Have you thought about sharing these fears with a licensed professional? icon_rolleyes.gif


    Have you thought about seeing a professional for your tenuous grip on reality?

    Which candidates are calling gays immoral? What side of the aisle is the anti-gay rhetoric coming from? What side of the aisle do most religious fundamentalist side with?

    Are you naive or just plain stupid?





    Nope, just open-minded...you might try that sometime. That is, if you can get past your own "victim" mentality and "They're out to get us" paranoia. icon_wink.gif
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    CuriousJockAZ said
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    CuriousJockAZ said
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    Caslon16000 saidThere is no gay reason to vote Democrat since they aren't doing anything substantial in our interest.

    Think how different the election dynamics would have been if there had been a rush of enthusiastic gays going to the polls.



    But the Republicans outright hate us.


    Have you thought about sharing these fears with a licensed professional? icon_rolleyes.gif


    Have you thought about seeing a professional for your tenuous grip on reality?

    Which candidates are calling gays immoral? What side of the aisle is the anti-gay rhetoric coming from? What side of the aisle do most religious fundamentalist side with?

    Are you naive or just plain stupid?





    Nope, just open-minded...you might try that sometime. That is, if you can get past your own "victim" mentality and "They're out to get us" paranoia. icon_wink.gif


    Denying facts and claiming others are "playing the victim" when in reality they ARE the victim, just makes you seem like a fool.
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    Nov 04, 2010 6:27 PM GMT
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    Denying facts and claiming others are "playing the victim" when in reality they ARE the victim, just makes you seem like a fool.




    You can play the victim all you want. How's that working for ya?
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    Nov 04, 2010 6:39 PM GMT
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    DoomsDayAlpaca said
    Denying facts and claiming others are "playing the victim" when in reality they ARE the victim, just makes you seem like a fool.




    You can play the victim all you want. How's that working for ya?


    How exactly is anyone playing the victim?

    If you are going to use loaded terms you need to start explaining your stance, otherwise you are nothing more than a talking points zombie.