Christianity Is A Pagan Religion

  • metta

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    Nov 07, 2010 6:13 PM GMT

    Christianity Is A Pagan Religion

    http://www.pocm.info/
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    Nov 07, 2010 7:29 PM GMT
    Definitions are wonderful things...

    Pagan: a person who follows a polytheistic or pre-Christian religion (not a Christian or Muslim or Jew)

    OR if you want to get super out of context it originally meant 'country dweller'.

    That website is full of fallacies and its translations and interpretations of history and mythology are questionable at best.
    Im all for debunking Christianity but not at the price of historical information and truthfulness.
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    Nov 08, 2010 1:42 PM GMT
    All religions have a pagan origin, but fundamentally:

    Christians worship stone statues ... and books, (the bible is a collection of them)

    Muslims worship a stone fallen from the sky ... and books, (verses)

    Jews worship a land .... and books

    Hindus worship clothed statues and rivers and many other things and ... books (many many many books)

    Buddhists worship statues and well... books (verses)




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    Nov 08, 2010 3:59 PM GMT
    amar_m said

    Buddhists worship statues and well... books (verses)



    I think that Buddhists would disagree with you here. They don't worship statues. They use those to tell stories that teach things. Buddhism was created prior to the printing press, so they created characters to help people remember stories that teach people things. They generally do not worship statues , people (buddha), gods (there are none mentioned). I guess, in a way...you might consider them worshiping books (dharma). They look at it as a tool.
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    Nov 10, 2010 8:16 AM GMT
    Buddhists don´t "worship books".
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    Nov 10, 2010 5:31 PM GMT
    Lostboy saidBuddhists don´t "worship books".


    yeah...you are right...I was just trying to find a little truth in one of the things that he stated....but fell flat..
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    Nov 10, 2010 8:40 PM GMT
    Christians don't worship a book, or statues, or dead people... perhaps they venerate them, use them to remind themselves of certain aspects of their faith, but worship alone belongs to just one triune God.
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    Nov 12, 2010 5:02 AM GMT
    metta8 said
    Christianity Is A Pagan Religion

    http://www.pocm.info/



    I always thought that a pagan religion was any ideology or belief system the Christians look down upon and referenced as a cult!? like that of indigenous peoples religious believes and their rituals around the world!? I was baptized catholic but my parents never enforced it on me, but instead encouraged me to learn and practice at my own choosing and will; although they always warned me of the pros and cons of living a religious life and to be very careful with not becoming fanatical about it. With that in mind I realized it was best if I concentrated more at being a spiritually centered being; and so in my mid twenties I decided it was best if I extracted the best of each one of them, and so I started to study the world's indigenous people's connection with nature, the creator, and the inner self. I find that I have a strong sense of identity and connection when I incorporate these three elements in my life: God, nature, and my inner self.


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    Nov 12, 2010 11:20 AM GMT
    I'm Buddhist, but I never worshiped any statues or books. However in various countries where Buddhism spread and flourished, as all religions some aspects from the ones it replaced got included. In Thailand and Burma when I visited, there are indeed people who worship Buddhist statues. It's left over from previous religions that involved animism. But we generally do pay homage to a statute or representation of Buddha to show our respect for his teachings. However the homage is not worship.
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    Dec 01, 2010 1:44 PM GMT
    Andreas73 saidChristians don't worship a book, or statues, or dead people... perhaps they venerate them, use them to remind themselves of certain aspects of their faith, but worship alone belongs to just one triune God.


    I agree! But there are some Christians, and we all know who I'm referencing, who do seemingly venerate, perhaps even idolize, certain things such as the Bible, marriage, and the military to such an extent that they seem to take the place of God.
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    Dec 18, 2010 7:00 PM GMT
    all religion comes from egypt.the aten is the basis for jews and christain
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    Dec 21, 2010 9:56 AM GMT
    joshi67 saidall religion comes from egypt.the aten is the basis for jews and christain


    Far beyond that even. The oldest religion that I've found that is Pagan is actually Assyrian, pre-Sumerian eras. They were polytheistic. Now for the first monotheistic religion, yes, that would be correct. Akhenaten introduced worship centered on the Aten, which is sometimes described as monotheistic or henotheistic.


    I haven't posted this in forever, however, Pagan is simply put, anything that isn't a full on Atheist or anything that subscribes fully Abrahamic Religions. There are some sublets, but this is how the most basic definition was presented; paraphrased. Pagan was used by Christians as a pejorative term and there are many ideologies that were pilfered from other Pagan belief systems.

    I myself have been a Pagan for 11 years and still am, but modern day Pagans are just neopagans (though some like to reiterate that statement, which is fine). Most are also reconstructionists. I've studied Wicca, Asatru, Druidry, Hellenism, Thelemic, and finally settled on just an odd mixture of ideologies, but I mostly identify with Discordianism. However my guilty pleasures are reading occult philosophies such as the Agrippa. It's all about personal experience. Belief really should be non-volitional. Those that choose to believe and those who don't, but there are sources like this one that are notorious for providing misunderstanding. From reading the article I found that it's saying that Christianity has pilfered from various ancient-Pagan religions, not that it's Pagan in itself. Many religions did that back then to attract followers.

    Anyways, I'm going back to the YouTube. Hope this provides some information on the article. It's a confusing article, but it's very similar to the Zeitgeist stuff floating around Google.
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    Dec 22, 2010 1:52 AM GMT
    metta8 said
    Christianity Is A Pagan Religion

    http://www.pocm.info/


    not sure what you mean by that because if a religion is pagan, it is non christian.
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    Dec 22, 2010 1:58 AM GMT
    Andreas73 saidChristians don't worship a book, or statues, or dead people... perhaps they venerate them, use them to remind themselves of certain aspects of their faith, but worship alone belongs to just one triune God.



    yes, the distinct aspect of christianity is a belief and worship of Christ, as the eternal Son of God made flesh, who saved all from their sins through his own sinless and perfect life and his innocent death as an atonement for sin.
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    Dec 22, 2010 2:09 AM GMT
    joshi67 saidall religion comes from egypt.the aten is the basis for jews and christain


    christianity began with the first OT prophecy of the coming of Christ and this predates any egyptian history
  • creature

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    Dec 29, 2010 3:40 AM GMT
    That site reminds me of this clip (it is in three parts) which someone posted in another thread:



    I guess this is the zeitgeist stuff Pheo was talking about. It really puts things into perspective. I'm now a conflicted Quaker.