What is "American" culture to you?

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    Nov 07, 2010 9:12 PM GMT
    For example...a Spanish person from Spain may list off certain events, celebrations and daily traditions that they do that makes them distinct and unique...what are those for you as an American?

    I feel like I don't really have anything...American culture to me just seems like a luck of the draw...born into wealth or not largely determines your culture. The only american thing i can think of is Hollywood, fast-food, corporations known for fucking over tons of people, and a life of abundance - and cool politics that fuck over lots of minorities too.

    so if we don't wanna be part of that culture, where do we lie? especially if we're anglo-american and don't get another culture to be apart of by nature? icon_sad.gif


    PS i forgot, Musical Theater (Broadway) is a pretty neat-o thing that we created!
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    Nov 07, 2010 9:34 PM GMT
    5ebastian saidI think Americans have great culture, you gave the world Michael Jackson's music and defined pop culture globally. Theres a lot of talent in the arts that I feel Hollywood is responsible for. Some of it is garbage, but at least you guys stand for something. Canada's pretty much your guys' bitch.


    that's kinda cool, yeah, but now all of our hollywood stars are just people who serve as puppets to hundreds of professionals who create the lyrics, chords, songs, and auto-tune to promote the 'talent' america seems to create...when we have true legit musicians who don't get a step in the field because of the way they look.

    hollywood isn't good culture! it makes everyone wish they were something they can't/won't be instead of encouraging people to be who they are and not aspire to be celebrities like Brittney Spears and Hillary Duff...
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    Nov 07, 2010 9:37 PM GMT
    Britney Spears and hotdogs.


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    Nov 07, 2010 9:38 PM GMT
    Define "culture."

    Your list gives holidays and daily traditions. Is that culture to you? I can list our holidays. And I know the traditions that we go at our holidays. I am not sure what a daily tradition is. Taking a shower in the morning? Is that culture?
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    Nov 07, 2010 9:40 PM GMT
    Nothing but money
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    jayyp13 saidFor example...a Spanish person from Spain may list off certain events, celebrations and daily traditions that they do that makes them distinct and unique...what are those for you as an American?

    I feel like I don't really have anything...American culture to me just seems like a luck of the draw...born into wealth or not largely determines your culture. The only american thing i can think of is Hollywood, fast-food, corporations known for fucking over tons of people, and a life of abundance - and cool politics that fuck over lots of minorities too.

    so if we don't wanna be part of that culture, where do we lie? especially if we're anglo-american and don't get another culture to be apart of by nature? icon_sad.gif

    PS i forgot, Musical Theater (Broadway) is a pretty neat-o thing that we created!


    Without being long winded I cannot answer efficiently, though I see substantial lacking and fault in your perceived notion of what a nation is and what you chose as 'American' attributes. Your combination of youth and naivete apparently distorts and prevents your understanding of what makes and unites a nation. Perhaps an easier way for you yourself to answer this is to compare the US with what you apparently see as uniformity in other nations (were they always as they are now ~"since the beginning of time"?). I respect your questioning as you did, just that experience has shown various bashers and revisionists make for very destructive and fragmenting forces.
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    Nov 07, 2010 9:41 PM GMT
    Caslon16000 saidDefine "culture."

    Your list gives holidays and daily traditions. Is that culture to you? I can list our holidays. And I know the traditions that we go at our holidays. I am not sure what a daily tradition is. Taking a shower in the morning? Is that culture?


    Yeah like i said, what is american culture to you? i'm not setting up a definition, rather, i'm letting you use it however you wish icon_smile.gif
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    Nov 07, 2010 9:47 PM GMT
    Diverse since we have had people from all over the world immigrate to the U.S.
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    Nov 07, 2010 9:48 PM GMT
    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HEREWithout being long winded I cannot answer efficiently, though I see substantial lacking and fault in your perceived notion of what a nation is and what you chose as 'American' attributes. Your combination of youth and naivete apparently distorts and prevents your understanding of what makes and unites a nation. Perhaps an easier way for you yourself to answer this is to compare the US with what you apparently see as uniformity in other nations (were they always as they are now ~"since the beginning of time"?). I respect your questioning as you did, just that experience has shown various bashers and revisionists make for very destructive and fragmenting forces.


    Well if you're going to fall prey to ageism I can too! Being over 50 years old in our country largely puts you out of the generation that is coming for change and therefore that "distorts and prevents your understanding" of the new America that youth is perceiving today..Sure you may have a better and concise way of understanding what it means for a nation to be united, but I have a better perception on how the next generation, the American youth, is perceiving and experiencing culture today.

    Back to the point...I'm simply saying that as an American I don't really know what makes me unique as an American, is it a capitalist society, holidays, the way we decide things as a nation, "freedom"? I'm wondering what YOU think it means to be an American so I can get my brain worked up on something! icon_twisted.gif
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    Nov 07, 2010 10:00 PM GMT
    Internationally your rep has taking a bashing the last few years but things have changed dramatically for the better under the Obama administration.

    When I think USA there are a lot of conflicting images - you gave us great scientists like Feynmann, Oppenheimer, Chu etc etc.... but then exported pop trash (Paris Hilton, playboy bunnies, Britney Spears), a country of extreme rare beauty - snow capped mountains to dusty deserts but then 'Wal mart' cities and McDonalds take aways. Ford perfected the car and made it available to everyone but then the country seems to have a poor public transport system, a political system that fights with each other over banalities and minor details and yet it's the most powerful government in the world. The only country to use a nuclear bomb but controls how other countries use nuclear technology.

    I think the US culture is one of oppositions but for some strange reason it works
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    Nov 07, 2010 10:13 PM GMT
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    QUOTE AUTHOR GOES HEREWithout being long winded I cannot answer efficiently, though I see substantial lacking and fault in your perceived notion of what a nation is and what you chose as 'American' attributes. Your combination of youth and naivete apparently distorts and prevents your understanding of what makes and unites a nation. Perhaps an easier way for you yourself to answer this is to compare the US with what you apparently see as uniformity in other nations (were they always as they are now ~"since the beginning of time"?). I respect your questioning as you did, just that experience has shown various bashers and revisionists make for very destructive and fragmenting forces.


    Well if you're going to fall prey to ageism I can too! Being over 50 years old in our country largely puts you out of the generation that is coming for change and therefore that "distorts and prevents your understanding" of the new America that youth is perceiving today..Sure you may have a better and concise way of understanding what it means for a nation to be united, but I have a better perception on how the next generation, the American youth, is perceiving and experiencing culture today.

    Back to the point...I'm simply saying that as an American I don't really know what makes me unique as an American, is it a capitalist society, holidays, the way we decide things as a nation, "freedom"? I'm wondering what YOU think it means to be an American so I can get my brain worked up on something! icon_twisted.gif


    Dear jayyp13,
    I neither had, nor have, any desire to attack you. I simply tried to guide you to try and answer that question in a way meaningful to you, before various American haters will start their crude/cruel anti-American rants. Why bring in ageism? Your post shows that you unfortunately lack basic understandings, and it's obviously not because of your intelligence. (The choice seems to be that either someone lacks the understanding either because they are stupid or unknowlegable (due to being young or not exposed - naive. You are not stupid- but naive possibly because you are young or live a sheltered life.)).
    Back to your original point. Reread what I wrote and ponder it. Take it as a constructive guide. Enjoy the ride! It gets the energy and spirit flowing!

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    Nov 07, 2010 10:13 PM GMT
    For those who aren't enamored with what makes up popular culure in America, I don't think there is much culture here. Perhaps I'm not at the right place at the right time, though.
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    Nov 07, 2010 10:26 PM GMT
    American Culture....
    Ignorance?
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    Nov 07, 2010 10:27 PM GMT
    BuddyinNYC saidYour combination of youth and naivete apparently distorts and prevents your understanding of what makes and unites a nation.

    I'm curious about what you think it takes to make and unite a nation. Do tell....
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    Nov 07, 2010 10:29 PM GMT
    American culture is hard to pin point. Especially since its very geographically based: Northeast vs. South vs. Midwest vs. West , Urban vs. Rural.
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    Nov 07, 2010 10:29 PM GMT
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    BuddyinNYC saidYour combination of youth and naivete apparently distorts and prevents your understanding of what makes and unites a nation.

    I'm curious about what you think it takes to make and unite a nation. Do tell....


    "Without being long winded I cannot answer efficiently, [...]"
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    Nov 07, 2010 10:33 PM GMT
    BuddyinNYC said
    Your post shows that you unfortunately lack basic understandings, and it's obviously not because of your intelligence. (The choice seems to be that either someone lacks the understanding either because they are stupid or unknowlegable (due to being young or not exposed - naive. You are not stupid- but naive possibly because you are young or live a sheltered life.)).


    I love how when someone is trying debate with someone younger than them they have to say shit like that when they have lost. Instead, of showing that they are actually the 'superior' and admitting defeat. They turn to insults and claim that due to the opponent's age he is incapable of something.
    For real though, look around you will start seeing the trend with a few specks of grown adults admitting their wrongs. However, mostly it turns out like previously stated...

    Maybe that is American culture? When all is lost resort to insults and condescending statements? icon_confused.gif
    Also, to get technical young adults would know more about the current world than those later on in the years.
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    Nov 07, 2010 10:34 PM GMT
    You make fun of Britney Spears, but she IS American culture. Despite differences in people's tastes and opinions on her talent, just look at her life. She was born into a lower middle class family, then rose to fame and fortune. Then had a breakdown...and then rose again. I think to me, that is American culture and the American dream. The idea that you can always get back up.

    Hollywood is a big part of the American culture. The way the rest of the world views us is not only through politics, but also through the way we depict our lives in movies, television shows, and music.

    Other than that, we have Thanksgiving and Halloween - yes, Halloween is celebrated everywhere, but as someone with family all over the world, they all point out that Americans go all out and they pave the way for the rest of the world.

    America is also the country of access and "big." Everything is bigger. EVERYTHING.

    Oh, and let's not forget apple pie icon_smile.gif
    and fried chicken ;)
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    Nov 07, 2010 10:35 PM GMT
    jayyp13 saidFor example...a Spanish person from Spain may list off certain events, celebrations and daily traditions that they do that makes them distinct and unique...what are those for you as an American?

    I feel like I don't really have anything...American culture to me just seems like a luck of the draw...born into wealth or not largely determines your culture. The only american thing i can think of is Hollywood, fast-food, corporations known for fucking over tons of people, and a life of abundance - and cool politics that fuck over lots of minorities too.

    so if we don't wanna be part of that culture, where do we lie? especially if we're anglo-american and don't get another culture to be apart of by nature? icon_sad.gif


    PS i forgot, Musical Theater (Broadway) is a pretty neat-o thing that we created!


    We may not have made them, but in part they define our culture

    Monday Night Football
    Xbox 360s
    Halloween
    Christmas
    Prime Time Television
    Baseball (even if it sucks)
    Pink, Taylor Swift Kanye
    July 4th
    Veteran's Day
    A-a-a-alcohol
    CARS (not the movie, i have it capitalized because I really think its true)
    Central Park
    Frederick Law Olmstead
    Election Night
    Apple Product Launches
    Midnight showings
    Midnight Video games launches
    World of Warcraft
    Grapes of Wrath
    Calvin & Hobbes
    And stuff like this:
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    Nov 07, 2010 10:36 PM GMT
    BuddyinNYC said"Without being long winded I cannot answer efficiently, [...]"

    You can't even come up with a brief summary? icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Nov 07, 2010 10:43 PM GMT
    Caslon16000 saidDefine "culture."

    Your list gives holidays and daily traditions. Is that culture to you? I can list our holidays. And I know the traditions that we go at our holidays. I am not sure what a daily tradition is. Taking a shower in the morning? Is that culture?


    Culture comes from the word Cult, which had a different meaning back in the day than what we think of today. The word long ago was used to describe religion, and one's religious beliefs greatly influenced their culture. Traditions or holidays were all inspired by that group of people's religion. Today when we think of the word cult, we think of a bunch of creepy twisted evil people all wearing snuggie blankets (I hate that commercial lol) doing some crazy shit lol. Its interesting how words change over time.

    I wasn't born here, but I was always pretty interested in American history/culture. Religion is definitely huge part of it, which is partly why America is so different from other countries namely Europe, and I mean different in a good way. Europe has become way too secular, almost cold. We also aren't a theocracy as the founding fathers did not want that. We also accept all religions, many other countries do not.

    This then leads to the next thing I find fascinating about America, which is diversity. America is more diverse than any other country, and I love that. Because of our diversity, we are a stronger country.. Apart of that also has to do with us all being a nation of immigrants who left hardship from past countries, or just wanted better opportunities that aren't so easy in other countries, due to how they are set up.

    We do have our dark past, moments in history.. All countries do, though it seems this country is far more willing to own up to it, acknowledge it was horrible, and work to change things.. I know of quite a few countries who will not do that. We're also far more freer than other countries, many however abuse these freedoms, or take them for granted.

    Americans are also more giving, more generous.. Unfortunately though, it seems like we're losing all of the things that have made our country, and culture great, different from the rest.

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    Nov 07, 2010 10:45 PM GMT
    COMPLETELY AGREE!

    mnboy saidAmerican Culture....
    Ignorance?
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    Nov 07, 2010 10:45 PM GMT
    Handsome jock types, steak, potatoes, and hard work. Like IGH84!
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    Nov 07, 2010 10:47 PM GMT
    Pankevin saidCOMPLETELY AGREE!

    mnboy saidAmerican Culture....
    Ignorance?


    I don't agree at all.. You'll find ignorance all over the world. I've run into a load of ignorant Europeans, ignorant Asians, people who just didn't know jack shit about the world beyond their own. People who've never been anywhere else in the world.

    Not going to find that in just one country, its everywhere bro lol.
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    Nov 07, 2010 10:49 PM GMT
    wrestlervic saidHandsome jock types, steak, potatoes, and hard work. Like IGH84!


    Mmmm Steak.. Potatoes lol icon_razz.gif