Dems To Cave On DADT Repeal In Lame Duck

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    Nov 09, 2010 12:58 AM GMT
    "The vast majority of the American people want the military's "Don't Ask Don't Tell" policy repealed. A majority of conservatives want it repealed. A soon-to-be-released Defense Department study finds U.S. servicemembers do not mind serving alongside gay soldiers. Admiral Mike Mullen wants DADT repealed. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates wants it repealed. So, naturally, Congressional Democrats are poised to turn tail and run from taking any kind of stand on the matter:

    President Barack Obama has repeatedly said he wants to overturn the policy, which bans gays from serving openly in the armed forces. Advocates on both sides believed the issue had a chance of coming up in this month's post-election session of Congress. Now that looks unlikely.

    Sens. Carl Levin of Michigan and John McCain of Arizona, the top Democrat and Republican on the Senate Armed Services Committee, are in talks on stripping the proposed repeal and other controversial provisions from a broader defense bill, leaving the repeal with no legislative vehicle to carry it. With a repeal attached, and amid Republican complaints over the terms of the debate, the defense bill had failed to win the 60 votes needed to overcome a procedural hurdle in the Senate in September.

    Over at the American Prospect, Adam Serwer puts it pretty bluntly:

    Look, if Democrats can't repeal a policy more than two thirds of the American people, including a majority of conservatives want gone then they can't expect people to vote for them.

    We take you now live, to the scene of ever diminishing electoral expectations:

    Republicans made significant inroads among gay and lesbian voters in the midterm elections, with national exit polls for the House races showing that the GOP captured 31 percent of the vote of this group this year, compared to 19 percent in 2008.

    I think that GOP strategists are perfectly capable of understanding what "vast majority of the American people want DADT repealed" means. They are certainly capable of understanding what "31 percent of the LGBT vote" means. But if Democrats think that they can keep stringing along the LGBT community as a captive constituency for one more election cycle, then by all means, they should cave in to pressure and punt on DADT.

    By the way, the "pressure" to not repeal DADT is coming from where, exactly?"

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/08/dems-to-cave-on-dadt-repe_n_780371.html
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    Nov 09, 2010 2:51 AM GMT
    Caslon16000 saidLook, if Democrats can't repeal a policy more than two thirds of the American people, including a majority of conservatives want gone then they can't expect people to vote for them.


    Your argument is captious. It was put to vote in Senate to repeal it and ALL of the Republicans voted it down. Sure there's plenty of Republicans that want it repealed. But not the one's in office. THOSE people should be voted out, not the Democrats.
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    Nov 09, 2010 2:55 AM GMT
    JAKEBENSON said
    Caslon16000 saidLook, if Democrats can't repeal a policy more than two thirds of the American people, including a majority of conservatives want gone then they can't expect people to vote for them.


    Your argument is captious. It was put to vote in Senate to repeal it and ALL of the Republicans voted it down. Sure there's plenty of Republicans that want it repealed. But not the one's in office. THOSE people should be voted out, not the Democrats.

    I guess after all that studying, you might as well use the words. ... icon_wink.gif
  • Webster666

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    Nov 09, 2010 4:57 AM GMT
    Are you trying to imply that gays voting Republican will result in any gay rights whatsoever ?

    Of course, most Democrats and definitely ALL Republicans in Congress will vote to keep DADT. They're too afraid of not getting reelected.

    DADT will be overturned either in the courts or by Obama, after he's reelected in 2012.
  • GQjock

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    Nov 09, 2010 11:23 AM GMT
    If you think that the GOP might wanna take up the repeal of DADT because they see that it's popular you haven't been listening to them for very long

    There is NO WAY that they will help this cause
    NEVER
    and the sooner gay men and women realize that the republican party wants to demonize you and me at every given time the better
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    Nov 09, 2010 11:33 AM GMT
    Caslon16000 said
    JAKEBENSON said
    Caslon16000 saidLook, if Democrats can't repeal a policy more than two thirds of the American people, including a majority of conservatives want gone then they can't expect people to vote for them.


    Your argument is captious. It was put to vote in Senate to repeal it and ALL of the Republicans voted it down. Sure there's plenty of Republicans that want it repealed. But not the one's in office. THOSE people should be voted out, not the Democrats.

    I guess after all that studying, you might as well use the words. ... icon_wink.gif

    I guess with all that tangent, you might as well not address the point I made.icon_cool.gif

    Anyway, both parties suck. Republicans don't like gay rights and Democrats pretend they do.