Tofu?

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    Nov 09, 2010 10:52 PM GMT
    So I am caving...I am giving in...I'm going to eat tofu...but I have questions.


    Is it a complete protein?

    Is it really cheaper than meat?

    HOW do you make it taste like meat?

    HOW do you make it taste like bacon?

    Can you wrap it in bacon?

    Should I just eat bacon instead?

    What are some of your favorite tofu meals?

    Specific brands to look or watch out for?

    I don't plan on giving up meat all together, but I have issues with kidneys and I want to keep my heart healthy (it is already but I like to consider myself forward thinking).
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    Nov 09, 2010 11:40 PM GMT
    Tofu isn't made to taste like meat. It is made for people who don't like meat so why would it taste like it... but it is nutritional.
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    Nov 09, 2010 11:46 PM GMT
    I eat tofu quite often, as I am vegan (I am doing my part for the environment too you know ;)). There are a variety of ways to prepare it, and yes, it is a complete protein with all of the essential amino acids and you don't have to worry about it being overly processed.

    You are not going to get tofu to taste like meat, ever -- but you can get it to resemble looks wise to scrambled eggs and taste pretty delicious in its own right.

    If you want to eat things that imitate meat, and some times get very close in texture and taste, then you have to eat the products specifically made as substitutes. Morningstar bacon strips (you will probably like these a lot) and the healthier lightlife smart bacon are alternatives to real bacon. I would also recommend other faux meat products like Boca chicken patties and nuggets (supposed to be very similar to real mcnuggets ---can be found in any basic grocery frozen section) and morningstar ribs. There are a lot of others as well that are made with dairy products and those will probably taste even better than the vegan varieties, but they shouldn't be eaten in excess either because they are slightly processed -- still a whole lot healthier than meat and very good pure protein.

    If you want the more exotic fake meats then you can go to whole foods and there are a ton. Anything from chinese orange chicken (my partner tells me they taste exactly like real meat) to black pepper beef steaks, etc. They are all pure textured protein from beans -- even higher in protein than meat.

    Here is my recipe for tofu:

    Dice an onion and cook on high heat until it they are crisping and cooked enough, then add tofu by crumbling it and then put mckays chicken seasoning (or any kind of chicken seasoning variety - if it doesn't have salt already in it, then add salt but otherwise don't). Add paprika, a lot of garlic powder and onion powder (hard to over do). Then add a small sprinkle bit of basil and oregano, but not too much. Add tumeric to make it look "yellow" and then wrap it in a tortilla. It's delicious!

    I cook every single day and rarely ever go out to eat so if you want other recipes I can give them to you. I even make an indian curry and duck-potato dish that's delicious. I can give you the recipe for that too. Tonight I'm having a vegan homemade pizza with vegan pepperoni and cheese on it with mushrooms, garlic and onions.

    And no, bacon is terrible for you. Pigs do not have pores and so you end up eating all of the toxins they accumulate, they are one of the worst meats you can eat in that respect. Same for lobster and shrimp -- they are bottom feeders and decompose extremely quickly which is why they have to either be frozen alive or fried alive and eaten quickly. Healthiest real meats are going to be fish, chicken, turkey and beef.
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    Nov 09, 2010 11:46 PM GMT
    mnboy saidTofu isn't made to taste like meat. It is made for people who don't like meat so why would it taste like it... but it is nutritional.


    Actually, many people like the taste of meat but they want something healthier (or they are against killing animals) so that's why they go for alternatives to imitate it.

    But you are right, tofu is not a meat substitute.
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    Nov 09, 2010 11:50 PM GMT
    I hate Tofu. Tastes disgusting and the softer consistencies make me gag.

    DoomsDayAlpaca saidWhat are some of your favorite tofu meals?

    However, Chocoholic guy strikes again:

    This is really good!

    Chocolate Mousse

    Ingredients
    3/4 cup semisweet chocolate chips, melted
    1 (12.3-ounce) package reduced-fat extra-firm tofu
    1/4 teaspoon salt
    3 large egg whites
    1/2 cup sugar
    1/4 cup water
    Fat-free whipped topping, thawed (optional)
    Grated chocolate (optional)

    Preparation
    Place chocolate and tofu in a food processor or blender, and process 2 minutes or until smooth.

    Place salt and egg whites in a medium bowl, and beat with a mixer at high speed until stiff peaks form. Combine sugar and water in a small saucepan; bring to a boil. Cook, without stirring, until candy thermometer registers 238°. Pour the hot sugar syrup in a thin stream over egg whites, beating at high speed. Gently stir one-fourth of meringue into the tofu mixture; gently fold in remaining meringue. Spoon 1/2 cup mousse into each of 8 (6-ounce) custard cups. Cover and chill for at least 4 hours. Garnish with whipped topping and grated chocolate, if desired.

    Nutritional Information
    Calories:147 (34% from fat)
    Fat:5.6g (sat 3.3g,mono 1.8g,poly 0.5g)
    Protein:5.2g
    Carbohydrate:22.5g
    Fiber:0.2g
    Cholesterol:0.0mg
    Iron:0.9mg
    Sodium:134mg
    Calcium:26mg
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    Nov 10, 2010 12:40 AM GMT
    bhp91126 saidI hate Tofu. Tastes disgusting and the softer consistencies make me gag.

    DoomsDayAlpaca saidWhat are some of your favorite tofu meals?

    However, Chocoholic guy strikes again:

    This is really good!

    Chocolate Mousse

    Ingredients
    3/4 cup semisweet chocolate chips, melted
    1 (12.3-ounce) package reduced-fat extra-firm tofu
    1/4 teaspoon salt
    3 large egg whites
    1/2 cup sugar
    1/4 cup water
    Fat-free whipped topping, thawed (optional)
    Grated chocolate (optional)

    Preparation
    Place chocolate and tofu in a food processor or blender, and process 2 minutes or until smooth.

    Place salt and egg whites in a medium bowl, and beat with a mixer at high speed until stiff peaks form. Combine sugar and water in a small saucepan; bring to a boil. Cook, without stirring, until candy thermometer registers 238°. Pour the hot sugar syrup in a thin stream over egg whites, beating at high speed. Gently stir one-fourth of meringue into the tofu mixture; gently fold in remaining meringue. Spoon 1/2 cup mousse into each of 8 (6-ounce) custard cups. Cover and chill for at least 4 hours. Garnish with whipped topping and grated chocolate, if desired.

    Nutritional Information
    Calories:147 (34% from fat)
    Fat:5.6g (sat 3.3g,mono 1.8g,poly 0.5g)
    Protein:5.2g
    Carbohydrate:22.5g
    Fiber:0.2g
    Cholesterol:0.0mg
    Iron:0.9mg
    Sodium:134mg
    Calcium:26mg


    Fail. Tofu has virtually no taste at all. You must just not like the texture.
  • DCEric

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    Nov 10, 2010 12:42 AM GMT
    We cook tofu regularly, and there are some dishes at the Chinese restaurant across the street that are to die for. Taste has to be added when you cook it, but you have more control on portion size and on what it tastes like at the end.
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    Nov 10, 2010 1:27 AM GMT
    I used to fry extra firm tofu cut fairly thin, and dip the pieces in soy sauce. The texture is much more chewy and tastes better. But then I got worried about too much oil.
    Now I just boil it and dip it in soy sauce.
    Don't eat too much or it'll screw up your thyroid.
    If you have too much protein in your urine (i.e. >1g/day) you should not be going above 1g/kg of protein a day.

    No it's not cheaper than meat. (at least not in my part of the country, but in big cities you can probably get it really cheap from Asian supermarkets)
  • neosyllogy

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    Nov 10, 2010 1:39 AM GMT
    I'm a big fan of wheat gluten meat substitutes (like seitan). They are complete proteins and avoid the phytoestrogen problems associatted with soy products like tofu. Field Roast, Original grain Meat Co. makes great sausages. (can get it at whole foods, at least in my area) And they're really well priced (most soy-based meat products are really expensive for some reason).

    I'm not vegetarian, but I would definitely suggest not eating pork (or octopus, dolphin, whale, dogs, etc.). Controversial to bring up the idea of "higher" animals, or even different levels of "awareness". But I wouldn't ever condone eating a dog, and I think that's reasonable, given the intelligence and 'awareness' of dogs; they're not fit to be grown for slaughter. To be consistent I wouldn't eat anything, at a minimum, that shows dog level cognitive abilities (e.g. pigs, octopuses, etc. [those are the only two common ones in western diets]).

    (That said, I have a lot of respect for people that abstain from meat products in general, though I disagree with many on the healthiness of that option.)
  • offshore

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    Nov 10, 2010 1:45 AM GMT
    Think of it as Chinese Cheese
  • NerdLifter

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    Nov 10, 2010 1:59 AM GMT
    Wish the campus diner served seitan icon_confused.gif Typical college food: 90% of all food items must be either deep fried or smothered in fat.
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    Nov 10, 2010 2:09 AM GMT
    Hey Real Jock,

    Hi you all. I know Tofu well. Mine LONG time ex-bf who love that stuff on EVERYTHING you can name of it! He place Tofu in thing you don't EVEN dream of and when he make it you want to BARF! I call it YUCK!

    BW
  • Csrobbie2000

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    Nov 10, 2010 2:22 AM GMT
    I'm not a big fan of tofu, but my friend took me to this vegetarian restaurant in Orange County where there's huge Vietnamese and Chinese community. They made tofu that tastes like chicken and beef - real amazing!!! I haven't yet found a way to make tofu taste like meat, but I do like to satee tofu with finely chopped lemon grass, curry, a bit or salt and pepper then sear them for a few minutes each side. They came out quite good.
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    Nov 10, 2010 2:24 AM GMT
    Studinprogress saidWish the campus diner served seitan icon_confused.gif Typical college food: 90% of all food items must be either deep fried or smothered in fat.


    Im jealous. Our food is so 'health-smart' that even the cookies are healthy!! icon_evil.gif
    Im a vegetarian I dont eat much but when I want a motherfucking cookie I expect it to be fattening!
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    Nov 10, 2010 8:50 AM GMT
    Tofu is the best thing in the world! It taste really awesome depending on what you eat it with or put into it. I personally like tofu lightly fried dipped with alittle spicy soy sauce and eaten with rice. Another way to eat tofu is go out to a good korean tofu soup restaurant since tofu soup is really delicious! The cost depends for tofu, some tofu might cost more than the average ground beef or chicken breast. I dont suggest frying it with bacon or wrapping it with bacon since I can say that flavor combo wont be very appetizing I could imagine in my head. You can buy tofu that is already prepackage that taste like meat like tofu hot dogs, tofu beef patties, or just buy tofu meat flavor seasoning. If you want quality tofu, I suggest going to an asian supermarket since they usually have fresh tofu available or going to a korean market since they usually have a huge section of tofu for different kind of stuff.
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    Nov 10, 2010 10:37 PM GMT
    q1w2e3 saidI used to fry extra firm tofu cut fairly thin, and dip the pieces in soy sauce. The texture is much more chewy and tastes better. But then I got worried about too much oil.
    Now I just boil it and dip it in soy sauce.
    Don't eat too much or it'll screw up your thyroid.
    If you have too much protein in your urine (i.e. >1g/day) you should not be going above 1g/kg of protein a day.

    No it's not cheaper than meat. (at least not in my part of the country, but in big cities you can probably get it really cheap from Asian supermarkets)


    It just happens to be harder on the iodine levels in the body which is important for the thyroid. The idea that it will ruin the thyroid is completely ridiculous. Supplementing with a supplement containing iodine will prevent any possible issue of this -- everyone should be supplementing anyway.
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    Nov 10, 2010 10:38 PM GMT
    Csrobbie2000 saidI'm not a big fan of tofu, but my friend took me to this vegetarian restaurant in Orange County where there's huge Vietnamese and Chinese community. They made tofu that tastes like chicken and beef - real amazing!!! I haven't yet found a way to make tofu taste like meat, but I do like to satee tofu with finely chopped lemon grass, curry, a bit or salt and pepper then sear them for a few minutes each side. They came out quite good.


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    Nov 10, 2010 11:01 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
    It just happens to be harder on the iodine levels in the body which is important for the thyroid. The idea that it will ruin the thyroid is completely ridiculous. Supplementing with a supplement containing iodine will prevent any possible issue of this -- everyone should be supplementing anyway.


    Isoflavones are inhibitors of the thyroid peroxidase which makes T3 and T4. Genistein and daidzein are the principal isoflavones in soy products. They really has nothing to do with iodine levels, but you can overcome the goitrogenic properties of soy with iodine supplementation. I do not recommend anybody with hypothyroidism using any soy supplements (with much higher isoflavone concentrations), but soy foods are probably OK when eaten in moderation.

    My salt is iodinated, BTW. Everything in moderation.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16571087Thus, collectively the findings provide little evidence that in euthyroid, iodine-replete individuals, soy foods, or isoflavones adversely affect thyroid function. In contrast, some evidence suggests that soy foods, by inhibiting absorption, may increase the dose of thyroid hormone required by hypothyroid patients. However, hypothyroid adults need not avoid soy foods. In addition, there remains a theoretical concern based on in vitro and animal data that in individuals with compromised thyroid function and/or whose iodine intake is marginal soy foods may increase risk of developing clinical hypothyroidism. Therefore, it is important for soy food consumers to make sure their intake of iodine is adequate.


    http://www.epa.gov/edrlupvx/inventory/FDA-17.htmlSoybean and its products have been reported to be goitrogenic to humans. Soy products in infant food formulas and wide consumption of soy products demands an examination of the antithyroid activity. Extracts of soybean contain components identified as genistein and daidzein that inhibit thyroid peroxidase (TPO), the key enzyme in thyroid hormone synthesis. These compounds are potent inhibitors of TPO-catalyzed tyrosine iodination and thyroid hormone synthesis (coupling). Incubation of either isoflavone with TPO in the presence of H2O2 irreversibly inactivated the enzyme, but prior addition of iodide ion abolished enzyme inactivation. In the presence iodide ion, the isoflavones were alternate substrates for TPO-catalyzed iodination yielding mono-, di- and tri-iodoisoflavones. Thus, in both the presence and absence of iodide ion, inhibition of thyroid hormone synthesis by the soy isoflavones is predicted although the effects of suicide substrates are predicted to be of longer duration.




    BTW, I don't usually talk shop to patients, but try to put it in everyday language. "Screwing up your thyroid" was my way of putting the above in 4 words to avoid arcane terminology in this forum.
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    Nov 11, 2010 1:47 AM GMT
    offshore saidThink of it as Chinese Cheese


    I don't think of tofu as cheese until it's been fermented into this stuff:

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    Nov 11, 2010 1:51 AM GMT
    Ew, the worst memory of the my childhood is contained in that jar, and many others like them.icon_mad.gif
    (On the other hand, the best memories were associated with steamed eggs mixed with a little water and fried tofu, so tofu is half and half in my book).
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    Nov 11, 2010 2:04 AM GMT
    Careful, anything soy produces estrogen. It's good protein, but I stay away from it. It's the fear of getting lumps in my chest icon_eek.gif
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    Nov 11, 2010 2:09 AM GMT
    greyston saidCareful, anything soy produces estrogen. It's good protein, but I stay away from it. It's the fear of getting lumps in my chest icon_eek.gif


    I've had soy milk in my diet for over 5 years. No problem. Heck, nice does of estrogen is good... makes me more sensitive - LOL.
  • Celticmusl

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    Nov 11, 2010 2:18 AM GMT
    There is a wide variety of tofu in types of flavor, texture, color, etc. I love general tso's tofu. I eat tofu whenever I can. I'm always concerned about high estrogen but I try to take some anti-estrogen supplements consistently. I don't think some tofu and/or soy in your diet is going to make you a women.
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    Nov 11, 2010 2:26 AM GMT
    I like tofu AND meat.
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    Nov 11, 2010 2:29 AM GMT


    ohhh weeee ooooo KILLER TOFU!!!