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    Nov 10, 2010 9:02 PM GMT
    I have been
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    Nov 10, 2010 11:30 PM GMT
    I have been thinking of moving to a different country too. Been checking some of them out over the internet and have not thought of Sweden. We had an exchange student from Sweden when I was a senior in High School. I will have to do a google search and see if I can find him.
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    Nov 10, 2010 11:37 PM GMT
    I think one of the most attractive things about living there is the quality of life.
    AND they have total respect for their elders.... one thing you sure as hell won't find HERE!!
    Most speak English...but I'm a language nut and learn easily, so I plan on starting before I go. I've already learned a few things.... icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Nov 10, 2010 11:42 PM GMT
    What makes you think you'd be eligible for immigration to those countries?
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    Nov 10, 2010 11:48 PM GMT
    Tazo995 saidWhat makes you think you'd be eligible for immigration to those countries?


    I have to say, I was thinking the same thing icon_confused.gif - you really can't get away with moving somewhere as organized as Sweden without it being super official - Italy is a little bit easier for an 'extended stay'. I have the same problem in reverse! Try moving to New York from Europe without a degree....NO ONE would even consider me for a job.
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    Nov 10, 2010 11:52 PM GMT
    Just out of curiosity I googled Immigration to Sweden. The first link www.immi.se/... described the permits and rules for settling or working there.
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    Nov 11, 2010 2:21 AM GMT
    socalfitness saidJust out of curiosity I googled Immigration to Sweden. The first link www.immi.se/... described the permits and rules for settling or working there.


    And you found what? I have Googled MANY sites, I know what the requirements are, what income you need to provide proof of, what the cost of living might be...and so far, I have yet to find any obstacles that would apply to me.
    I am, for all intents and purposes, retired. So, working is NOT an issue.
    IF it were a requirement, that could also be arranged. I am not going there on a whim... I have "people" there who are more than willing to help and do whatever is necessary to make the transition as smooth as possible.
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    Nov 11, 2010 2:23 AM GMT
    Tazo995 saidWhat makes you think you'd be eligible for immigration to those countries?


    First of all, it is not "those countries"... it is Sweden...and ONLY Sweden.
    I would NOT have started this thread had I not already done plenty of research.
    I would not only be "eligible", I would be more than welcome.
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    Nov 11, 2010 2:25 AM GMT
    OMG my best friend(International) is from Stockholm, Sweden and he's SOO SOo soo sexy!!! He complains about the cold and everything but I would move there just for him haha
  • conservativej...

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    Nov 11, 2010 2:52 AM GMT
    I usually make it to Stockholm when I am in Europe. Depends on my length of stay. I see no reason why you would not like it there, although you are going to see more permanent snow cover in the winter than in Colorado. What can one say? It's Nordic Europe.
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    Nov 11, 2010 4:00 PM GMT

    Was kinda hoping for more guys to come forward on this.... icon_sad.gif
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    Nov 11, 2010 4:16 PM GMT
    Friendsrbetter saidI have been thinking recently of moving to Sweden...Stockholm is my first choice.
    One major factor for me is the climate. I have lived in So. Calif. for 32 years..but born and raised in Colorado.
    Does anyone have a lot of knowledge regarding living in Sweden? Spent much time there? From there??


    I visited Stockholm a few times when I was in Europe. It's a great city, I think one thing myself and all my fellow students noticed right off was how clean it was. We were living in Copenhagen, and we realized in Stockholm there's not nearly as much graffitti or even gum on the sidewalks. We just thought it was funny/cool at the same time.

    The city itself seemed like it has tons of stuff to do, whether its bars, clubs or museums (I think it has like 70) All around, it was a gorgeous city in the spring. I would think in winter its probably a lot darker, but if you grew up in Colorado I'm sure you'd be fine.

    One thing to look into is learning Swedish. Many people speak perfect English there, however if one wants to live there I would assume its beneficial/necessary to learn the language.
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    Nov 11, 2010 4:18 PM GMT


    I've only ever been on holidays there.

    What do you like about the climate? It can get quite cold!

    It's quite a serious place though, not really much culture, more just everyone rushing around doing there thing.
  • ROYCE13

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    Nov 11, 2010 4:32 PM GMT
    well I have been to Sweden several times as I have family from there. i have been from top to bottom of the country which is mainly a large forest with a few small cities. Naturally Stockholm is my favorite. I really love it there and have thought of living there as well, but not all year round. If you have not been, then I would recommend a long visit to Stockholm, Goteborg, Malmo and the country side and villages around Stockholm. It is supposed to be a city to easily relocate to for work from what I read, but the housing issues are another story in Stockholm. A shortage of places. Much is very utilitarian and small. I am not a fan of the outer neighborhoods since they provide military type high rises. Stockholm is very beautiful, very clean, un hurried in feel and atmosphere, yet cosmo and relaxed at the same time. I cannot recommend it to you though, since I do not know your preferences. Only a visit would do that, a winter visit actually, since the summer is great but short.
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    Nov 11, 2010 4:38 PM GMT
    actually there is culture there, but culture is now different to each individual and generation. They have great museums, opera, orchestra, dance, auction houses, great restaurants etc... I am not a big fan of modern swedish design, just bits and pieces, but swedes are intelligent, quiet, types on the average, they are very unusual in aspects, I have read that, experienced that with family and fit many of the characteristics myself. Since Sweden acts on its own, it is really not a limelight place like a Miami or London, but offers a great lifestyle, without the fake, wantabe attitude, great for people who love the water, boating, country, forest, etc....
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    Nov 11, 2010 4:44 PM GMT
    you should seriously rent an apartment for a month and live there and see.
    if you are going to stay there during the winter season, I would suggest a winter visit, the winter there is much different than Colorado. yes many swedes hate it during winter, but they live there and have to accept it, so you have a choice.

    everyone does appear to speak english well, since they had to take it in school. some of the older generations still do not speak english though,
    it is always good to speak a bit of any language where you live and travel, but it is not necessary for life there, in some of the rural areas, it might come in handy to know it.
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    Nov 11, 2010 4:48 PM GMT
    i would suggest May thru October or November in Stockholm and then the rest in PS or Miami. I would come visit you in Stockholm.
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    Nov 12, 2010 2:36 AM GMT
    Royce... thank you so much for your encouragement... it means a lot. I have also been contacted by a man who is Swedish and lives in Stockholm..and he is open to any questions I have. Right now... I have TONS!!
    But I'm on the right track...
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    Nov 12, 2010 3:08 AM GMT
    David, throughout my life I have gone after the things I wanted. Not half heartedly, but intensely. I have researched, planned and done the math. Then I put my head down and charged like a mad motherfucker....and each and everytime, I have succeeded......go for broke David. You accomplish everything in this life that you want to and miss only those things to which you don't give your all .....

    And you know what they say about living in the cold....it's like riding a bicycle, you never forget.....best of luck and all my best wishes David....Keith
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    Nov 12, 2010 3:15 AM GMT
    Friendsrbetter saidRoyce... thank you so much for your encouragement... it means a lot. I have also been contacted by a man who is Swedish and lives in Stockholm..and he is open to any questions I have. Right now... I have TONS!!
    But I'm on the right track...


    I hope you can make this workout! I have been thinking about moving to Europe myself in the next few years, and Sweden is up at the top of my list icon_biggrin.gif
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    Nov 13, 2010 12:35 PM GMT

    Another GREAT reason for moving to Sweden:
    This is a quote from the current 44 yr. old Prime Minister, who was instrumental on making it possible for gays to adopt children in 2005:

    " One of the issues my government faces and intends to deal with seriously is the rights of homosexuals. What is going on in Eastern Europe regarding gays is appalling, and our new European member states are not quite open minded towards homosexuals either, I mean first of all Baltic States, which still bear Soviet mentality. I do not want gays to be humiliated and persecuted, they are decent, talented and peace-loving citizens and my government will do its utmost to equal their rights with those of heterosexuals."
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    Nov 13, 2010 1:01 PM GMT
    OP, I know you've made your research, but have you thought about food? Are you flexible about what you eat?

    I'm a little picky about food, which is why I would never consider living in Europe, let alone northern Europe. I once stayed for 3 weeks in France and I didn't like their lack of diversity of fruits (and I was there in spring!), there is just no comparison to what I have in Brazil: cheap healthy food, any fruit you can imagine all year round, including some exclusive delicious berries like açaí and guaraná. Yes, the French infrastructure is great (specially transportation), living standards, education and all the rest. But food is too important to me. Would you eat what Swedes eat?
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    Nov 13, 2010 1:12 PM GMT
    Bachian: Yes, I have researched the food in Sweden and I have no problem with their native foods at all. In fact, I think I would prefer their food over anything I could EVER find anywhere in South America.
    Fruits, especially a WIDE variety of berries, are VERY plentiful in Sweden.
    Besides eating at home, there is an abundance of international cuisine available anywhere in the city of Stockholm.
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    Nov 13, 2010 4:02 PM GMT
    Do what your heart tells you to do.

    If you were to make that move, please stick with us RJers and I would always be available to talk with you.

    You are the type of person that wouldn't make a rash decision. You would think this through and do the necessary research, which from what you have stated, you have done.

    After learning of your thoughts, I wonder if many others will follow your lead. If the US takes another hard right again politically in 2012, you may have lots of company. I will tell you this though....you will likely see the population of Florida slowly ebb away over the next four years. Many of us want out of here---and in a hurry.

    Please keep me posted as to your progress and thoughts on this. I'm in your corner.
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    Nov 14, 2010 12:08 AM GMT
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