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    Mar 13, 2008 4:50 AM GMT
    My name is Ethan and im going on 19 i was 340 lbs about a year ago and now im like 250... this is where i need the help i found out about a week ago that i have a tumor agin for the 4th time and i start treatment april 10th i want to have a bit of time to have fun befor i have to grow up so to speak.... i dont want pity i just want help. I so baddly want to be hot like most of you hot dudes on this site i so wish to look like i will lose a lot of muscle in treatment so i want to lose my weight by then i plan on 50 or 60 within the 30 odd days. so i dont care about the health i dont care what i have to do i just want it off and away i dont even care if i lose all the muscle on this fat sack of a body but i need it done if i cant beat it then i dont want to die looking like this. you guys might think im stupid to be like this but when i ask people they wont tell me the ways i mean what do i have to lose... i started taking hydroxycut hard core monday with a mens sport but guys i need this im dating a guy who is a hot dude and he should have a hot dude to... so if you can help message me on here or email me at colorguardguy07@hotmail.com but i do thank you and thats it...
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    Mar 13, 2008 12:56 PM GMT
    Ethan,

    I looked at your pics and I think you're pretty hot just the way you are.

    You're a good-looking young man and you should be proud of yourself for losing so much weight already. It will take time for you to reach your goal but if you keep working at it you WILL get there.

    You need to put as much effort into feeling good about yourself as you put into your exercise/diet program.

    The guy you're dating likes you for who you are, not for what you look like. He sounds like a catch; hold onto him.

    Right now I think you need to concentrate on your upcoming medical treatment. Get that problem resolved first, then get back onto your exercise program. Trying to lose 50 pounds in one month is dangerous, unrealistic, and just plain foolish.

    Good luck to you,

    Johnny D
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    Mar 13, 2008 1:00 PM GMT
    You're not gonna DIE.

    Sorry can't offer advice though. I'm a newb too. icon_confused.gif
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    Mar 13, 2008 1:02 PM GMT
    Ethan,

    I added you to my hot list; in fact, you're the first guy on my hot list.

    Johnny D
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    Mar 13, 2008 1:03 PM GMT
    Ethan,

    Johnny's right. Your body is going to go through enough with the treatments that it's not wise to add extreme weight loss to the mix. Concentrate on getting through chemo, and THEN talk to your doctor about getting a referral to a weight management clinic.

    Your loss of 90 pounds so far is a significant achievement. And if you're having trouble going further, it's possible that a specialist could help you.

    You know if you're eating well, and exercising. If you're doing those fundamental things and not showing improvement any more, then there may be medical factors affecting your body fat loss -

    Joey
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    Mar 13, 2008 2:04 PM GMT
    ya im still looking it up i cant be this way any more. if you have had the treatment then you will know what a bitch it is and i will look like crap then but i want to be a hot crapy look sick person...
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    Mar 13, 2008 4:01 PM GMT
    I am not sure if this is the case with chemotherapy or not, and I am 100% not a doctor and my word is not worth the pixels they are written on. That being said, here is my two cents.

    With some medications and therapies less body mass the less medication/therapy needed. I have also heard from people, who are as qualified as I am, that toxins might be stored in body fat. Losing some fat might be a jolly good idea. How much though, and if at this time it is a good idea, would be something you would have to talk to your GP and your Oncologist.

    Did I discount my word enough? ^_^
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    Mar 13, 2008 6:01 PM GMT
    wellwell saidSuch tumors are absolutely the result of what is known as a "thought-form;" however, I will not go into that here- e-mail me if you would like me to elaborate . . .


    Oy, doesn't it figure.

    No, we do NOT create tumors out of bad thoughts. This way lies idiocy and death. Why do people insist on hawking voodoo instead of science? LEAVE THIS BOY ALONE.
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    Mar 13, 2008 6:15 PM GMT
    wellwell said
    Our modern physicians, of today, still discount the body's ability to heal itself!


    Um, no, modern physicians today know that the body is the BEST healer of itself. However, a sane person knows when the body is going to need all the help it can get. Please avoid this woo woo advice...wellwell's intent is good, but he's short on the science.

    Sorry, wellwell, if this were about making colorguard feel good about himself, your advice is okay, and somewhat harmless, but we're talking about his life here.

    Colorguard, continue to lose the fat on your doctor's recommendation only. Your body will be dealing with the toxins in the chemo...do not worry for a second about the "toxins" in your fat...they are not an issue.

    Oh, and food allergies? STOP! Your body responds to allergens by ramping up its immune response. It doesn't make you fat.
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    Mar 13, 2008 7:48 PM GMT
    Assuming you burn 2500 calories a day and your burning nothing but fat at 3500cals a pound

    therefore it would take 84 days of eating absolutly nothing but zero calorie foods celery, water, diet coke etc at average population metabolic rate rate to drop 60 pounds

    so if you were to run for 4 hours a day at 10kmph burning roughly 1100cals an hour depending on your body weight. That's the distance of a marathon you could work up the extra 4500 calorie daily deficit required

    So basically if you eat nothing and run a daily marathon you could theoretically lose those 60lbs of fat in a month
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    Mar 13, 2008 7:58 PM GMT

    Now here's the sensible part if you can exercise an extra hour a day

    cut out a lot of junk food leaving you 1500 of food you could sensibly lose 15lbs of fat and 2 or 3 extra of retained water.

    if you portion that 1500 out into 5 or 6 small meals, take that hydroxycut not only will you could ramp up your metabolism, not die and you may be able to shift 20lbs

    good luckicon_wink.gif


    Btw I dropped 65lbs myself it took 5 months but you seem to have the dedication to do it
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    Mar 13, 2008 8:27 PM GMT
    First of all Ethan I send my sympathies to you for your health problems. Secondly you should be commended for losing 90 pounds, that is quite an accomplishment.

    However, you really need to conquer your health problems first, then worry about becoming the hot guy you have always wanted.

    In 1995 when I got sick from HIV induced hepatitis, my weight dropped to 137, and I was not sure how much longer I had to live. I aked the doctor to tell me what I needed to do to beat back the HIV. I was not worried whether I was ripped or not, whether I had a six-pack, whether I could bounce a quarter off my ass. I was worried about getting my T-4 cell count from 168 to a normal range. Once I felt my health was back on track, then I started concerning myself with my physique.

    For what it is worth I recommend you do the same. You obviously have self-discipline, otherwise you never would have lost the weight, or beaten back the tumours three other times. You also are young, that is another advantage.

    Best of luck.
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    Mar 13, 2008 8:30 PM GMT
    Colorguard...

    I think that 's great that you'd dropped so much weight given your condition. But I can't see the logic in wanting to further complicate your health by dropping 50 lbs in 30 days. And, OK, maybe your reasons aren't logical...but you want short-term results that will be equally short-lived. Changing your diet is obviously the way to go...but if you go an an extreme calorie-restricted diet, you will lose weight for a couple of weeks; however, your body will then start storing everything you take in as fat. It's a natural response before we had Costco and supermarkets filled with food; your body didn't know where it's next meal would be coming from, so in times of famine, everything you eat gets stored away as fat. So when you go back to chemo, you may wind up with higher perctage of body fat than what you have now.

    I think, in my humble opinion, that you should enjoy the life you have. You have someone who likes you for who you are; I wish I had that! I think you need to look at a longer-term picture, and take inventory or what you have now. You say you want to have some fun...not quite sure what you mean by that,but have fun with your boyfriend! I can't see giving you advice on a crash course for something that may be more negative of your long-term health.

    I wish you the best of luck in your treatmen...and I hope you can enjoy your time with your loved ones.
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    Mar 13, 2008 8:44 PM GMT
    wellwell said... invariably, people who tend to excess weight have a food related allergy.

    it is very astute to consider a tumor- not as merely a growth, but as a parasitic entity, with absolutely no right-nor-privilege to invade your being! (Such tumors are absolutely the result of what is known as a "thought-form;" however, I will not go into that here-

    If you care to let me know where the tumor are recurring, I can identify to you the general group of negative thoughts, which can manifest themselves as a thought-form to be banished from your conscious, by way of simple re-programing.



    Wellwell, you are a nutnut jobjob.
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    Mar 13, 2008 9:40 PM GMT
    wellwell saidOh, Ethan...DON'T FEED THE TROLLS !! They are angry and always hateful !


    Not referring to me, are you, wellwell? (ahem)
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    Mar 13, 2008 9:50 PM GMT
    90 lbs already? that is sooo awesome! you should be super proud of yourself. that is so difficult and a lot of people can't do it. a lot of us focus on what we want to be and never stop and think about what we have done. be proud man!
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    Mar 13, 2008 10:03 PM GMT
    In my experience, losing weight too fast almost always resulted in twice the amount regained when the diet and exercise regime slowed down to zero.

    Slow and steady wins the race. It took me almost three years to get to an average body weight...but my aim for ABOVE average will last a lifetime if taken at pace. I do, however, have until this time next year to reach absolute muscular "perfection" for my 30th B-day. icon_wink.gif

    It's your choice, sweetie.


    Good luck!
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    Mar 15, 2008 2:10 AM GMT
    mickeytopogigio said
    Not referring to me, are you, wellwell? (ahem)


    No, Mickey, he was referring to me. I point out the general inanity of his ravings on a regular basis, and this seems to annoy him.
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    Mar 28, 2008 11:45 PM GMT
    Colorguardguy,

    Can we get an update?
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    Jul 21, 2008 12:44 AM GMT
    so im done guys thanks ive lost another 30 ill be getting a photo shoot at the end of aug and you get the whole shoot can't wait to show you what ive done my life is good ill be going to paul mitchell for hair school and im not a fem so dont think that but i do love hair but its just another school im in for music therapy so i have 7 1/2 years left of school so why not finish my license so love you guys more then food and ill show you guys the pics at the end of next month. im spending 500 bucks to do this shoot and thats with a friend doing it so its cheap to get them done its the materials that coast... arriverdurci.