I have been looking at real estate in the US:

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    Nov 14, 2010 12:14 AM GMT
    and was surprised that real estate in Florida, compared to my most livable city, is so good dame fucking cheep. Why is real estate in Florida so cheap? is it because of all the mosquitoes?
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    Nov 14, 2010 12:18 AM GMT
    aunty_jack saidand was surprised that real estate in Florida, compared to my most livable city, is so good dame fucking cheep. Why is real estate in Florida so cheap? is it because of all the mosquitoes?


    I understand FLA was hit very hard by the real estate crash - so many people were trying to buy "investment" prperties they could not afford, then when they defaulted the glut has driven down prices.

    If you can - this is a good time to buy.

    If I were ever to buy there I would look toward Boca Raton
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    Nov 14, 2010 12:20 AM GMT
    All the people there are real old and drive real slow so nobody else wants to live there...plus the hurricanes..,and when the polar ice caps melt there won't be any more Florida. And the people are so stupid that they can't poke a hole in a cardboard card and get it right.

    Who would want to live there? Srsly.

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    Nov 14, 2010 12:26 AM GMT
    What is "relastate?"icon_question.gificon_question.gificon_question.gificon_question.gif........icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Nov 14, 2010 12:26 AM GMT
    Caslon16000 saidWho would want to live there? Srsly.



    QFT.
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    OtterJoq saidWhat is "relastate?"icon_question.gificon_question.gificon_question.gificon_question.gif........icon_rolleyes.gif

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    Nov 14, 2010 12:31 AM GMT
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    OtterJoq saidWhat is "relastate?"icon_question.gificon_question.gificon_question.gificon_question.gif........icon_rolleyes.gif

    rela darhling, if you have to ask, you can't afford it! ... icon_wink.gif



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    Nov 14, 2010 1:52 AM GMT
    Caslon16000 saidAll the people there are real old and drive real slow so nobody else wants to live there...plus the hurricanes..,and when the polar ice caps melt there won't be any more Florida. And the people are so stupid that they can't poke a hole in a cardboard card and get it right.

    Who would want to live there? Srsly.



    1. I'm not "real old" nor do I drive slow. I happen to have a lead foot.
    2. We don't get hurricanes every summer. What happened 6 years ago when we were hit by three of them in the center of the state was a fluke (and scary as hell too). Everyone hears the word "hurricane" and they think it's Katrina. Not so.
    3. I saw what the butterfly ballot looked like that was used in Palm Beach County and as a smart individual, it confused me too. And the punch card system that caused the mess in 2000 is no longer used. That has been ditched in the counties that had it for the optical scanner version. Also, if you didn't line up the punch card just right, it would cause you to vote for the wrong person. Besides, that's ancient history now.

    Property values in Florida have dropped, there is a flood of foreclosures in the Orlando, Ft. Myers and Port St. Lucie areas. Lenders went wild here granting loans to people that had no earthly means to repay a mortgage. And, wages are very low here statewide. Needless to say, you had people living in $250,000 homes that barely made above minimum wage.

    Florida's population is going through negative growth right now. Summer is too damn hot. Cultural options are few and far between. Wages are low. An educated workforce is a joke here. This is a right to work state where an employer could bully and even cause physical harm to an employee--and the employee can't do a damn thing about it. Roads are clogged with traffic and government laughs at the idea of a rapid rail system or any form of alternate transportation......And the people here still cling to southern redneck values, providing you aren't in Miami-Dade, Broward, Palm Beach, Hillsborough, Pinellas or Orange Counties.

    Sorry to be a downer here, but the negatives are really outweighing the positives right now. Think this over good and hard.......

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    Nov 14, 2010 1:55 AM GMT
    Could you explain the term "right to work state"? I've never seen it before.
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    Nov 14, 2010 1:57 AM GMT
    UpperCanadian saidCould you explain the term "right to work state"? I've never seen it before.


    Nevada is an “at will” and "right-to-work"employment state and employers can terminate employment for any reason not specifically protected in federal and state laws icon_confused.gif
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    Nov 14, 2010 2:17 AM GMT
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    Nov 14, 2010 2:18 AM GMT
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    UpperCanadian saidCould you explain the term "right to work state"? I've never seen it before.


    Nevada is an “at will” and "right-to-work"employment state and employers can terminate employment for any reason not specifically protected in federal and state laws icon_confused.gif


    This is true. And "any reason" can mean a number of things. I had a co-worker to wear a polo shirt with a Cutter and Buck logo on it (where I work is not a "suit and tie" kind of place). That person's manager was jealous of the fact their employee could have and afford designer clothing, so they fired them on the spot.

    And two weeks ago, a male manager where I work struck a female employee with their fist several times, inflicting bruises on her face. In 49 other states, that is called "aggravated battery." Here, it is overlooked. That employee was terminated for "insubordination" while the manager who beat her up was promoted.

    I'm serious.
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    Nov 14, 2010 2:21 AM GMT
    I live in Florida and am not old.

    That stereotype still lingers from the 60s and 70s icon_rolleyes.gif

    Florida is a great place to live if you like warm weather, nice beaches, and depending where u live, pretty people.

    South Florida is completely different than lets say north or central florida.

    South Florida is definitely a diverse melting pot of cultures from all over the world. In fact, it's something like 59% of residents were born outside the US.
    Spanish is just as common as english. Beaches are some of the best in the country.

    Central florida is where disney world is. Full of suburban sprawl, thousands of hotels, malls, housing developments and highways. Very affordable housing there, but quite far from the beach. Central florida also has a more "southern feel" to it.

    Last time we were hit by a hurrican was 6 years ago. I mean they happen, but not very often. Its actually quite an expereince if you've never been through one.

    Let's see, what else?
    Oh yeah, aligators are everywhere in the swamps. If you're a nature lover or like fishing, this is definitely the place to do it.

    I would say it is the ozzie equivilant of Queensland minus any mountains. Florida is very flat, because its mostly swamp. South florida in particular. Basically back in the 50s and 60 they paved over half the state and plopped down houses, hotels, malls, and anything u could think of.




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    Nov 14, 2010 2:24 AM GMT
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    UpperCanadian saidCould you explain the term "right to work state"? I've never seen it before.


    Nevada is an “at will” and "right-to-work"employment state and employers can terminate employment for any reason not specifically protected in federal and state laws icon_confused.gif


    This is true. And "any reason" can mean a number of things. I had a co-worker to wear a polo shirt with a Cutter and Buck logo on it (where I work is not a "suit and tie" kind of place). That person's manager was jealous of the fact their employee could have and afford designer clothing, so they fired them on the spot.

    And two weeks ago, a male manager where I work struck a female employee with their fist several times, inflicting bruises on her face. In 49 other states, that is called "aggravated battery." Here, it is overlooked. That employee was terminated for "insubordination" while the manager who beat her up was promoted.

    I'm serious.


    Did the employee in your second example think of pressing charges for assault?

    What kind of place do you work?
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    Nov 14, 2010 2:25 AM GMT
    I'm a Realtor. You don't buy tin cans if people are throwing them in the dumpster.
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    Nov 14, 2010 2:28 AM GMT
    UpperCanadian saidCould you explain the term "right to work state"? I've never seen it before.

    It means you dont have to join a union to work at a company in that state.

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    "At will" means you can be fired at anytime without any notice. The boss can walk up to you and tell you to go home. You are no longer employed there. Likewise, you can just quit and walk out.

    Sounds pretty draconian, but there are social forces that prevent this arrangement from getting out of hand. If an employer fired "at will," the word would soon get around and no one of quality would work for the employer unless desperate and only until he found another job. Likewise, a worker who just walked off a job without giving 2 weeks notice would find it hard to get reemployed at any quality business.
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    Nov 14, 2010 2:31 AM GMT
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    UpperCanadian saidCould you explain the term "right to work state"? I've never seen it before.

    It means you dont have to join a union to work at a company.


    So it is NewSpeak for no rights for workers - this is a union busting state.icon_confused.gif
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    Nov 14, 2010 2:34 AM GMT
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    UpperCanadian saidCould you explain the term "right to work state"? I've never seen it before.


    Nevada is an “at will” and "right-to-work"employment state and employers can terminate employment for any reason not specifically protected in federal and state laws icon_confused.gif


    This is true. And "any reason" can mean a number of things. I had a co-worker to wear a polo shirt with a Cutter and Buck logo on it (where I work is not a "suit and tie" kind of place). That person's manager was jealous of the fact their employee could have and afford designer clothing, so they fired them on the spot.

    And two weeks ago, a male manager where I work struck a female employee with their fist several times, inflicting bruises on her face. In 49 other states, that is called "aggravated battery." Here, it is overlooked. That employee was terminated for "insubordination" while the manager who beat her up was promoted.

    I'm serious.



    Did the employee in your second example think of pressing charges for assault?

    What kind of place do you work?


    I don't know if they plan on pressing charges as they were fired. I have not heard anything further on this. People at my employer are really scared right now. I work for a company in the travel and hospitality industry in Orlando.

    And just one more example and this one involved me: A manager that I no longer work for threatened to kill me. She has a known history of mental illness and has made threats to people before. My Human Resources Department refused to acknowledge these threats saying "I'm the problem."

    Fun, huh?

    Sorry to deviate from the idea of buying real estate in Florida, however, if one plans to live and work here.....go with known Fortune 500 companies that are based in thoughtful and progressive states that do business in Florida.
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    UpperCanadian saidCould you explain the term "right to work state"? I've never seen it before.

    It means you dont have to join a union to work at a company.


    So it is NewSpeak for no rights for workers - this is a union busting state.icon_confused.gif

    Well, it has some international recognition:

    "The right to work is the concept that people have a human right to work, and may not be prevented from doing so. The right to work is enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and recognized in international human rights law through its inclusion in the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, where the right to work emphasizes economic, social and cultural development. ... "

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_work
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    Nov 14, 2010 2:43 AM GMT
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-to-work_law
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    Nov 14, 2010 6:21 AM GMT
    True_blue_aussie saidand was surprised that real estate in Florida, compared to my most livable city, is so good dame fucking cheep. Why is real estate in Florida so cheap? is it because of all the mosquitoes?


    Hurricanes. Build and rebuild.