GOProud, cowards.

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    Nov 15, 2010 6:11 PM GMT
    http://www.goproud.org/tea-party-leaders-release-letter-urging-house-and-senate-gop-to-avoid-social-issues/

    Gay Patriot gets in on the action too!

    http://www.gaypatriot.net/2010/11/15/memo-to-gop-ignore-the-gays/
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    Nov 16, 2010 12:05 AM GMT
    Cowards is too nice a term for these traitors.

    Sure...no problem. Let's ignore marriage inequality, DADT, hate crimes, reproductive freedom and such, because everything is fine! Nothing in those areas to address at all.

    IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!

    Christ, I'm sorry I ever called myself a Republican.

    What a bunch of self-loathing fucktards.

    Thanks for the links, Alpaca.
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    Nov 16, 2010 3:59 PM GMT
    Why would you post this as something negative? It's great. It's precisely what government should do -- stop getting involved or talking about personal opinions with social issues. The government should be worried about about how to be responsible with the money that is given to them, not what we are doing in the bedroom.
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    Nov 16, 2010 5:23 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidWhy would you post this as something negative? It's great. It's precisely what government should do -- stop getting involved or talking about personal opinions with social issues. The government should be worried about about how to be responsible with the money that is given to them, not what we are doing in the bedroom.


    Because you and I both know that the Christofascists still wield great power in the GOP. Are we to now just ignore that fact and allow them to push their almost-everything-phobic agenda without pushing back?

    No thanks.
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    Nov 16, 2010 5:41 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidWhy would you post this as something negative? It's great. It's precisely what government should do -- stop getting involved or talking about personal opinions with social issues. The government should be worried about about how to be responsible with the money that is given to them, not what we are doing in the bedroom.


    Yes - If that durned gummint kept their nose outta social issues, things would be so much better.

    I could have my slaves and wimmin wouldn't vote.


    Blacks & broads should all KNOW THEIR PLACE and the gummint gots no call to be changin' it.


    (That's the best rendering I can give of "red-neck."



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    Nov 16, 2010 6:13 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidWhy would you post this as something negative? It's great. It's precisely what government should do -- stop getting involved or talking about personal opinions with social issues. The government should be worried about about how to be responsible with the money that is given to them, not what we are doing in the bedroom.


    It shows weakness, it shows that they know the anti-gay politicians they supported (politically and financially) do not have their best interests in mind.

    They want them to ignore gay issues...but then what? DOMA, DADT, and other gay issues are not to be brought to the floor on both sides? Are the rest of us just supposed to shut up too because these fools played with fire and are going to get the rest of us burned?

    Remember these are the same kind of people who claim that homophobia is exaggerated, the right likes gays, and that the "gay left" are simply making all that shit up.
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    Nov 16, 2010 7:17 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkie saidWhy would you post this as something negative? It's great. It's precisely what government should do -- stop getting involved or talking about personal opinions with social issues. The government should be worried about about how to be responsible with the money that is given to them, not what we are doing in the bedroom.


    It shows weakness, it shows that they know the anti-gay politicians they supported (politically and financially) do not have their best interests in mind.

    They want them to ignore gay issues...but then what? DOMA, DADT, and other gay issues are not to be brought to the floor on both sides? Are the rest of us just supposed to shut up too because these fools played with fire and are going to get the rest of us burned?

    Remember these are the same kind of people who claim that homophobia is exaggerated, the right likes gays, and that the "gay left" are simply making all that shit up.


    You mean politicians don't have our best interests in mind? What a revelation!
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    Nov 16, 2010 7:26 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
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    mocktwinkie saidWhy would you post this as something negative? It's great. It's precisely what government should do -- stop getting involved or talking about personal opinions with social issues. The government should be worried about about how to be responsible with the money that is given to them, not what we are doing in the bedroom.


    It shows weakness, it shows that they know the anti-gay politicians they supported (politically and financially) do not have their best interests in mind.

    They want them to ignore gay issues...but then what? DOMA, DADT, and other gay issues are not to be brought to the floor on both sides? Are the rest of us just supposed to shut up too because these fools played with fire and are going to get the rest of us burned?

    Remember these are the same kind of people who claim that homophobia is exaggerated, the right likes gays, and that the "gay left" are simply making all that shit up.


    You mean politicians don't have our best interests in mind? What a revelation!


    To pretend that the conservatives of this nation accept us with open arms is not only foolish, it's dangerous.
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    Nov 16, 2010 7:41 PM GMT
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    DoomsDayAlpaca said

    To pretend that the conservatives of this nation accept us with open arms is not only foolish, it's dangerous.


    Who cares?

    I'm sure there are a few right here on RJ who don't like me, but you don't see me going all to pieces about it! icon_wink.gif


    There is a big difference between them simply not liking you, and having an entire wing of politics dedicate significant resources to dehumanizing you and limiting your rights.
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    Nov 22, 2010 9:58 PM GMT
    The Tea Party Response

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2631442/posts
    LetterToday, Tea Party Nation, along with over 180 other Tea Party Groups, Leaders and Activists released a letter to the Republican leadership on Capitol Hill.

    Last week, GOProud, a non-Tea Party group, sent a letter to Senator McConnell and Speaker to be Boehner, claiming to speak for the Tea Party movement. It was signed by 16 people. We decided to send a letter that speaks for the mainstream of the Tea Party movement. This letter is going Senator McConnell and Congressman Boehner today. It has been signed by over 180 Tea Party Groups, Leaders and Activists.

    Here is the letter:

    Dear Senator McConnell and Congressman Boehner,

    Last Monday, a small group of non-Tea Party, non-conservatives, released a letter, trying to claim leadership of the Tea Party movement and purporting to tell you what the Tea Party movement wants.

    We, the undersigned, are leaders of mainstream Tea Party groups. We are the people that helped get conservatives elected on November 2. While we do not speak for this movement as a whole, we are a large cross section of this movement and we want to tell you what this movement wants.

    First, we want Obamacare defunded. There is no compromise on this issue and it is not negotiable. We do not want Obamacare lite. We do not want it “tinkered” with. We want it repealed. We realize the chance of Obamacare being repealed before 2013 are slim, but it can be defunded. That is the next best thing.

    Second, we want serious reductions in spending. A spending cut is not simply a reduction in the amount of the increase. It is a reduction in spending. America cannot afford Washington’s spending sprees any more.

    The question is where to start. Here is the answer. Let’s start by eliminating waste, fraud and abuse from the budget. Billions of dollars are wasted through programs that are unneeded, unnecessary and exist only to benefit special interests. Let’s go through the budget line by line and eliminate these programs.

    We in the Tea Party are ready to help on this one. We know you have staffs. We have thousands of volunteers who are prepared to rip the budget apart and help you. All you have to do is ask us.

    The left will whine about every spending cut, coming up with some story about how horrible it will be. Americans are very charitable but cannot stand the thought of their tax dollars being wasted. This is the proverbial low hanging fruit.

    Third, we must dismantle the liberal-political complex. Liberal groups such as Acorn and Planned Parenthood receive millions of dollars in federal monies every year. This must stop. Most of the members of this movement would probably describe themselves as pro-life. Regardless, abortion is a multibillion-dollar business. Why is the government paying Planned Parenthood anything, much less almost $1 billion from 2002-2009?

    Fourth, if the debt ceiling is to be raised, this is the last time. Uncle Sam’s credit card must be cut up. America cannot afford Obama/Pelosi/Reid’s spending spree. We urge you to raise the debt ceiling only if a spending reduction plan is in place prior to that time. We do not want to see the ceiling raised in exchange for a promise to cut spending later. We Americans now regard those promises as credible as those emails we get telling us we have won the lottery.

    Fifth, taxes must be reduced. The Bush tax cuts must be extended for everyone, made permanent and the burden the government places on small businesses must be drastically reduced so that small businesses can grow and start hiring unemployed Americans.

    Sixth, there can be no amnesty. America has always welcomed immigrants. Legal immigrants. We want you to oppose the DREAM act and any other effort for amnesty. In 1986, President Reagan agreed to amnesty, in exchange for the promise the border would be secured. We got amnesty then and twenty-five years later, the border is still not secured. This time, we have to insist the border be secured and illegal aliens leave and then reapply like everyone else. We need to change our immigration laws and require that before specialized workers are brought in, there must be conclusive proof that no American is available to do that job. We also need to change our immigration policy so that the top criteria for someone immigrating to America is what they can do for America. The diversity immigration lottery must be eliminated.

    Seventh, we want you to fight the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. The policy has worked well for the last fifteen years. There is no reason to change. While there are many ways to debate an issue, sometimes you can judge the validity of a proposal by who supports it. Various radical leftist groups such as Code Pink support the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. These groups have one goal. They want to weaken the United States Military. If these groups think this is a good idea, that is a pretty good indication, it is not.

    We, the members of the mainstream Tea Party movement have a lot of expectations for you in this Congress. We realize the limitations you face. But we also realize the tools you have at your disposal. America is a conservative country. We expect conservative leadership from our country. The Republican Party had its head handed to it in 2006 and 2008 because it departed from its conservative base. Now is your chance to return to your roots and govern, as we the people want you to.

    We are here with you, we are here supporting you and we have our eyes on you. Do not disappoint us.

    Sincerely,

    November, 2010

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    Nov 22, 2010 10:25 PM GMT
    The move is a strong indicator that the GOP is moving away from its "social issues" focus. In my opinion this is necessary to maintain the strength of the overall conservative base.

    One of the great anvantages of working in and through a large conservative business community is that we can influence the direction of the GOP, most especially through fiscally conservative Tea Party organizations that hear our voice.
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    conservativejock saidThe move is a strong indicator that the GOP is moving away from its "social issues" focus. In my opinion this is necessary to maintain the strength of the overall conservative base.

    One of the great anvantages of working in and through a large conservative business community is that we can influence the direction of the GOP, most especially through fiscally conservative Tea Party organizations that hear our voice.


    So...ignoring human rights is a sure way to success.

    Nice party.
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    Nov 23, 2010 12:03 AM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidWhy would you post this as something negative? It's great. It's precisely what government should do -- stop getting involved or talking about personal opinions with social issues. The government should be worried about about how to be responsible with the money that is given to them, not what we are doing in the bedroom.


    Mock, this is not great because the discriminatory policies are already in place. Asking the GOP to ignore those issues is asking them to tacitly approve of those policies instead of recognizing them as discriminatory and removing them... which would increase the individual liberties they claim to want.
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    conservativejock saidThe move is a strong indicator that the GOP is moving away from its "social issues" focus. In my opinion this is necessary to maintain the strength of the overall conservative base.

    One of the great anvantages of working in and through a large conservative business community is that we can influence the direction of the GOP, most especially through fiscally conservative Tea Party organizations that hear our voice.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOU SAAAAY WHAAAAAAAT ??????? Work most especially through fiscally conservative Tea Party organizations that hear our voice !!!!!! Are you SHITTIN US ????? You cannot be serious !!!! Do you actually think the Tea Party Organizations are gonna listen to you or any 'inside' conservative groups of gays ?? You must not of heard that in the last several days one such group walked out of a republican meeting because the Gay Log cabiners were there..>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no problem with a group of gays being conservative on economic issues, we are all free to have an opinion, but don't tell me about joining in with people whose creed is to do away with gays as if we were some desease, or that we're all pedophiles and boy abusers because "thats just what gays are and do" Give me a break !!!!
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    Nov 23, 2010 2:03 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    DoomsDayAlpaca said

    To pretend that the conservatives of this nation accept us with open arms is not only foolish, it's dangerous.


    Who cares?

    I'm sure there are a few right here on RJ who don't like me, but you don't see me going all to pieces about it! icon_wink.gif
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>You are primarily just overlooked as a 'plant' or someone who just likes to stir shit by saying what you know is the most distastefull to our group of men. So most of us care little for what you think, but overall the answer to your "who cares" ? is, what we care about is the issues that the christian talaban might do harm to us over, thats not as you suggest a concern about whether or not we're liked, its in our own interests to care where and how they may harm us next. YOU SHOULD JOIN US IN CAREING ABOUT THAT, rather than being a thorn in the side of our and your own interests.
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    Nov 23, 2010 4:10 PM GMT

    snidebitch1500I'm sure there are a few right here on RJ who don't like me


    And the 2010 Understatement Of The Year award goes to...
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    Nov 23, 2010 4:14 PM GMT
    conservativejock saidThe move is a strong indicator that the GOP is moving away from its "social issues" focus. In my opinion this is necessary to maintain the strength of the overall conservative base.

    One of the great anvantages of working in and through a large conservative business community is that we can influence the direction of the GOP, most especially through fiscally conservative Tea Party organizations that hear our voice.


    So long as you maintain the fear mongering around social issues that is pivotal to the GOP/Tea Baggers electoral successes.
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    Nov 24, 2010 12:05 PM GMT
    Avoid social issues???????

    When there are factions in the republican party that want to ban GOProud from CPAC?
    http://www.queerty.com/yet-again-goproud-threatens-to-sink-conservative-circle-jerk-cpac-20101122/

    GURL? ..... You just don't get it do you?
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    Nov 24, 2010 2:45 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    DoomsDayAlpaca said

    To pretend that the conservatives of this nation accept us with open arms is not only foolish, it's dangerous.

    Who cares?

    I'm sure there are a few right here on RJ who don't like me, but you don't see me going all to pieces about it! icon_wink.gif

    The ones here who don't like you are, to the best of my knowledge, not key lawmakers in the US Congress and State legislatures. Nor are they conservative TV & radio commentators, or columnists. So your remark is, as usual, a straw man to undermine & weaken a discussion intended to alert gays to the current political climate.

    The anti-gay conservatives I am most concerned about aren't on this web site, but are those who have the power to create anti-gay laws, and influence voter opinion with lies & distortions, as they've done in several of the most recent US election cycles.

    And BTW, what's with this "us" statement? You're on the extreme right-wing conservative side, and have opposed & mocked one pro-gay initiative after another here. There's not an ounce of "us" in you. You're like a Yankees player showing up to the game wearing a Phillies uniform, and saying "Don't worry guys, I'm really one of you."
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    Nov 26, 2010 6:22 PM GMT
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    Wow Barron did a big job exposing how social conservatives DO want big-government, as long as their agenda is benefited. Thanks for posting this. It's good this is getting out in the open, and he is right, republicans will be annihilated in the near future if they do not focus on big government spending rather than divisive social issues.
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    Nov 26, 2010 7:32 PM GMT
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    Wow Barron did a big job exposing how social conservatives DO want big-government, as long as their agenda is benefited. Thanks for posting this. It's good this is getting out in the open, and he is right, republicans will be annihilated in the near future if they do not focus on big government spending rather than divisive social issues.



    Wait...whats that...you say the Tea Party is made up of social conservatives...well this is going to be awkward.

    Barron also exposed how willing he is to bend over and take it from the haters.
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    Nov 28, 2010 6:28 PM GMT
    Mock and twomack, er conservativejock, please watch:



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    Nov 28, 2010 7:11 PM GMT
    As you guys point out so clearly, the parodox of gays, and I'll extend that to the working poor, the elderly and the fast dissappearing middle class, just amazes me. Why is it so hard for them to see that at the core of efforts to label dems/progressives/liberals as being against them, is the big money corps whose interests are anything but for the groups I named above. For any of those groups, but especially the gays its self inflicted suicide. These conservatives have at their core the extreme right desire to do away with what doesn't fit into their Ideology and if they could they would gladly force us backwards by many decades. We'd be hiding in the 'closet' to servive.
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    Nov 29, 2010 10:54 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie said
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    Wow Barron did a big job exposing how social conservatives DO want big-government, as long as their agenda is benefited. Thanks for posting this. It's good this is getting out in the open, and he is right, republicans will be annihilated in the near future if they do not focus on big government spending rather than divisive social issues.


    Tim Wise had a good rant on how the Conservative victory this election cycle is a small battle of a larger war between the parties. A battle the Conservative Republicans can't hope to win unless they change some things. The truth is the overwhelming white base of conservative politics will not be a strong majority in coming years, a true majority maybe, but that's just semantics. If the conservative message is not changed, they will be categorized as xenophobic. As long as the Democrat Party can maintain its hold on the demographics that are quickly growing and good voters, like gays, blacks, and hispanics, the Tea Part movement will be out of steam in a short amount of time.