Was it good for you? New TSA regulations force passengers to choose between being photographed "virtually naked" or getting felt up.

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    Nov 15, 2010 6:46 PM GMT
    Wondering if anybody has flown since the new TSA regulations are forcing people to choose between the new back scatter scanner (which takes a picture that basically looks naked, and is potentially hazardous) or an aggressive patdown that includes touching your junk.

    A whole lot of commotion on it on line.

    There is some kinda protest planned on the Wed. before Thanksgiving (busiest travel day of the year) which should make an already fun day at the airport even more so.

    Flying next month and not looking forward to it.

    So... anybody experienced it? If not which would you choose?
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    Nov 15, 2010 6:48 PM GMT
    I'd take the patdown because of possible cumulative effect of scans.

    (and I like people touching my junkas long as i am ready for it. icon_cool.gif
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    Nov 15, 2010 6:48 PM GMT
    Here's my question. If you noticed that the pat down guy next to the scanner was HOT, would you opt out of the body scanner just to get a good frisking? He'd probably touch your balls and stuff.

    On that note, I wonder how many men end up getting aroused with all that pat down. It does have a mind of its own.
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    Nov 15, 2010 6:50 PM GMT
    I was also thinking of the possible effect of scanners on pregnant women and the baby
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    Nov 15, 2010 6:52 PM GMT
    I've got an artificial hip and just went thru the full body scan a couple of weeks ago. Much faster than the idiot wand and crotch grope. I would take it any day..................Keithicon_cool.gif
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    Nov 15, 2010 9:22 PM GMT
    njmeanwhile saidWas it good for you? New TSA regulations force passengers to choose between being photographed "virtually naked" or getting felt up.
    Can I choose both? icon_biggrin.gif
  • Timbales

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    Nov 15, 2010 9:30 PM GMT
    I'll take the pat down, the full body scan is a joke.
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    Nov 15, 2010 10:03 PM GMT
    I fly every week.

    Trust me, when I'm at the security line, I couldn't care less if the 300 lb. Marge character pats me down so long as her examination is thorough and consistent with TSA regulations to make sure we're all safe.

    That's the role of the TSA, although they continue to disappoint.

    As for seeing the images of your cock, vag, tits, or any other parts, people really need to grow up.

    TSA agents, I would assume, need to be 18 years of age or older. By that time, regardless of sexual orientation, they have likely been exposed to so many photos of the naked body that it really shouldn't mean anything.

    By nature of being a flaming homo, my banner ads very frequently flash an image of a shirtless man. Unless I'm horny at that moment, it doesn't do much for me. I cannot imagine anyone being so overly aroused while working in an airport, listening to boarding calls, and smelling fryer grease from McDonald's.

    We have a choice: compromise the safety of air transportation or get a scan where a random stranger can see your equipment for 30 seconds on a screen or pat you down with professionalism. Personally, I want my flight to be safe.

    As for the scan's waves having an effect on my health, I won't complain about that until I move into a bomb shelter to avoid sunlight.

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    Nov 16, 2010 4:29 PM GMT
    Ugh, so complicated. When you think about it guys see more of you changing in the locker room (and there you are plainly identifiable, not like on this thing) but it's just creepy. Plus it's a complete lie that they can't and don't save the pictures.

    Oh, and BTW, how long b4 you think there is a pr0n based on this. Jeff Stryker retired too early!
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    Nov 16, 2010 4:31 PM GMT
    I'm all for security, but this is starting to get fucking invasive!

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    Nov 16, 2010 4:34 PM GMT
    There was a letter to the editor in today's Oregonian which highlights what can go wrong. We need security, but TSA employees can turn into little tin Napoleons, or be downright rude and abuse their position. THAT's what we have to protest against:

    "I recently had to fly from Oregon to Idaho and back. Upon arrival at the Boise airport I was directed to the full body scanner. With no shoes, nothing in pockets, not metal in knees ect. after I went through scanner I was told the tsa employee was going to pat down my legs. I ask why as i had nothing in pockets, no shoes ect. and the tsa employee says because he had the right to pat down who ever he wished. I told him that was BS. He got very rude and said "either you allow the pat down or I will delay you in a private room until you miss your flight." I allowed the pat down and ask to talk to a supervisor and was told none were available. I ask another tsa employee who was supervisor and was pointed to a man stand off to the side. I told him what had happened and the rudeness of his employee. He said," he is a good employee and I can't believe he would act out of line." Seeing this was going no where and need to get to plane I left. I did write a letter to the tsa but have heard nothing back to this date, but it has only been 3 months."

    Not acceptable. I hope this person wrote to his senator and legislators.
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    Nov 16, 2010 4:37 PM GMT
    SAHEM62896 saidI'm all for security, but this is starting to get fucking invasive!


    Agreed.

    Depending on where I'm at, I tend to get taken to the side and patted down anyway, especially in smaller towns. Something about my pierced-up face screams "terrorist" in some areas. I'll take the pat-downs, since it's probably going to happen anyway.

    Note: Sometimes saying "You may want to check that left pocket again" goes really well, and sometimes you get scolded.
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    Nov 16, 2010 4:40 PM GMT
    Pyrotech said
    Note: Sometimes saying "You may want to check that left pocket again" goes really well, and sometimes you get scolded.


    I take it you learned this the, um, hard way? icon_twisted.gif
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    Nov 16, 2010 4:42 PM GMT
    I don't have any issues with scanner as long as we can be sure that those photos are not being saved or used for any other purpose. I don't mind pat down either. If I know am flying safe that all matters to me.
    Once when I was flying out of Amsterdam the security guard had put his hands under my belt in my pants just a bit to verify nothing is stuck there and I did not refuse as I knew he was doing the same thing with others and it was for our own safety. So why should I bother about doing the same thing is US.
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    Nov 16, 2010 4:45 PM GMT
    asnextdoor saidI don't have any issues with scanner as long as we can be sure that those photos are not being saved or used for any other purpose.
    You mean like, posted on google images for the world to see?
    http://www.google.com/images?q=body+scanner+images&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-USicon_surprised.giffficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1423&bih=711
  • Timbales

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    Nov 16, 2010 4:55 PM GMT
    In my opinion, the TSA acts like that boss who doesn't want to offend anyone or make anyone feel singled out so everyone in the office needs to get lectured as a group for something one person is doing.
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    Nov 16, 2010 5:07 PM GMT
    I haven't flown to the states in while so I can't comment on the scanners...Honestly I would rather be safe than sorry and because my extremist brethren would love nothing but to continue to harass and hurt us under their misguided ways.....


    As long as I'm not late for my flight I'm just going to get to the airport early as I can, go through security and sit my ass down on the seat I booked....
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    Nov 16, 2010 5:11 PM GMT

    When this came on the news this morning... I laughed my ass off at the guy who said: "Touch my junk and I'll have you arrested!!"
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    Nov 16, 2010 5:16 PM GMT
    It depends if I gotta get on that plane in a hurry. If it's faster why not.
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    Nov 16, 2010 6:37 PM GMT
    Security theater.
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    Nov 16, 2010 6:47 PM GMT
    I don't mind the scanner. I also don't care if my images are stored. If you've seen them it's not really a big deal. I just question how safe it is for people who fly a lot. It can't be good to be irradiated by the scanners on a constant basis. I would be worried if I were a pilot or flight attendant in and out of airport security many times a week.
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    Nov 16, 2010 7:01 PM GMT
    Mike85284 saidI don't mind the scanner. I also don't care if my images are stored. If you've seen them it's not really a big deal. I just question how safe it is for people who fly a lot. It can't be good to be irradiated by the scanners on a constant basis. I would be worried if I were a pilot or flight attendant in and out of airport security many times a week.


    ... which is probably why the ALPA is telling its members to refuse to use it.
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    Nov 16, 2010 7:03 PM GMT
    People should get upset about this. The more complacent we become about these "security" rules, the more our rights and privacy get taken away.

    Pat down, today.
    Cavity search, tomorrow.

    Also, the 9/11 hijackers did not have any explosives or guns or knives. Just a few box cutters.
    And a strong will to do evil; A pat down or a scanning machine won't be able to detect that.
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    Nov 16, 2010 7:07 PM GMT
    asnextdoor saidI don't have any issues with scanner as long as we can be sure that those photos are not being saved or used for any other purpose. I don't mind pat down either. If I know am flying safe that all matters to me.
    Once when I was flying out of Amsterdam the security guard had put his hands under my belt in my pants just a bit to verify nothing is stuck there and I did not refuse as I knew he was doing the same thing with others and it was for our own safety. So why should I bother about doing the same thing is US.


    They've been doing this at the Amsterdam airport for as long as I can remember, and it's totally different from touching your junk from the underside up.

    And the difference is of course, as we all know, that European airport security is both better AND less evasive, because the security services are actually professionals at what they do, compared to the I-was-bullied-in-highschool fucktards from the TSA. Big big difference.
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    Nov 16, 2010 7:09 PM GMT
    I´ll take the pat down but ONLY if the guy looks like this

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