dips for chest

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    Mar 13, 2008 9:47 PM GMT
    hi, ive been starting again at the gym since january on a full body workout, recently i started doing dips and leaning forward to work the chest more, and after each session i REALLY feel it over the whole chest area lasting like 2days, well ive never had this DOMS feeling from doing the seated chest press alone, do think i should ditch the chest press, or concentrate just on the dips or do a different technique?

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    Mar 13, 2008 10:58 PM GMT
    I get that also when I change up my exercises. I think it may have something to do with muscle memory. Also with the dips some stabilizing muscles maybe coming into play that don't with the seated chest press.
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    Mar 13, 2008 10:59 PM GMT
    It might simply be because just changing up your excercise routine can throw your body for a loop (which is a good thing). It's not just about lifting more weight, but variety in your work out is important. I say stick to doing dips for as long as you can feel them, then move on to something else to throw your body for a loop again, and so on.

    I love dips. I love working out in general, but dips are, for whatever reason, just my favorite excercise. Dips and crunches. I love both. Pull ups are torture though (not chin-ups, but regular pull ups). I have the strength to do them properly but for some reason I just hate them, LOL.

    Sorry, went off on a random rant :p.

    Edit: And push-ups. God, I love push-ups! Specially because I can vary them between regular, diamond, core, etc.
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    Mar 13, 2008 11:06 PM GMT
    It's GOOD that you're feeling the burn again!

    The idea behind regularly switching up your routine (say, every four weeks) is it forces your body to re-adapt to the workout. You're gonna get a beefy chest if you keep that up!

    If you start feeling sharp pains anywhere (ie. "it feels like I tore something") then you should stop icon_wink.gif
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    Mar 13, 2008 11:11 PM GMT
    question though: i thought the severe angle of hyperflexion in the shoulder with the bulk of the body's weight shearing across the connective tissue was highly dangerous?

    i know calisthenically dips are good because of the weight involved, but are they safe enough to be worth the results they provide?

    genuine question here, not rhetorical. does anyone know? i may need to look this up and get back to you...
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    Mar 13, 2008 11:20 PM GMT
    hey thanks for the advise, i think i will definitely try to apply that to everything then

    no idea about the hyperflexion thing though, but my theory is that as your recruitment more muscle groups in a more functional range then its safer? and i dont think it really hits the SITS muscles much as i would need to be doing int/ext rot at the shoulder or abduction to destabilise the shoulder jnt... so i dont think i could give myself a rotator cuff problem, especially as im only 22...is that right?
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    Mar 13, 2008 11:27 PM GMT
    It's been a while since I've done those but I remember the same feeling. Dips are a great way of hitting your chest especially if you lean forward and dip low. The more forward the more you work the chest. The more back you work the tricep.
    If you get to the point where you need to hit the chest harder I use to hang a pair of 25lb weights between my legs.

    Good luck
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    Mar 13, 2008 11:33 PM GMT
    dancerjackquestion though: i thought the severe angle of hyperflexion in the shoulder with the bulk of the body's weight shearing across the connective tissue was highly dangerous?


    Yes, yes it is. Highly dangerous. Such is the nature of everything lol!

    I actually have to use a weight-assisted dip machine, if I'm moving more than 150lbs, my shoulders just hurt like hell. I've gained so much mass in so little time that my connective tissues haven't been able to keep up!

    Just pop some ibuprofen pre-workout and keep it to low-weight, high-reps and over the following workouts, increase the weight as you're able to handle it.

    Nobody better be hurting themselves or I'll have to come slap you for being stoopud!
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    Mar 14, 2008 12:02 AM GMT
    maxx10 saidIt's been a while since I've done those but I remember the same feeling. Dips are a great way of hitting your chest especially if you lean forward and dip low. The more forward the more you work the chest. The more back you work the tricep.
    If you get to the point where you need to hit the chest harder I use to hang a pair of 25lb weights between my legs.

    Good luck
    Joe



    Luckily I already have a pair of 25lb weights between my legs.

    sorry i couldn't resist.

    I love doing dips with the added weight. I really feel a great chest and tri workout when I lean forward and do these.
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    Mar 14, 2008 12:30 PM GMT
    You should know that different exercises work different parts of the muscles. Dips work a different portion of your chest than a flat bench does. I incorporate dips in my workout regularly. I'm sure with time your body will adjust and then you can start adding more weight!
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    Mar 14, 2008 4:25 PM GMT
    danielryan saidYou should know that different exercises work different parts of the muscles. Dips work a different portion of your chest than a flat bench does. I incorporate dips in my workout regularly. I'm sure with time your body will adjust and then you can start adding more weight!


    I was just going to say that, too icon_smile.gif

    When I do my chest, I do a variety of exercises that work the different sections of my chest, Flys, incline press, flat bench, decline, dips, etc.
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    Mar 14, 2008 4:35 PM GMT
    Try assisted dips on the machine. Forget what its called. By using less weight you are able to stablize yourself better and will not stain your supporting muscles that are not being targeted by dips, such as your shoulders It allows you to focus on the chest more.
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    Jun 02, 2008 5:50 AM GMT
    Dips are probably the single best upper body exercise you can do. Among serious lifters, they are considered the upper body squat.

    How you do them makes a big diffence:

    Lean forward, with your body in a C-shape, with elbows out at right angles to your body, that is a chest exercise. A very good chest exercise.

    Keep your upper body upright, with your arms close to your body and elbows pointed back, that is a triceps exercise.

    I try to mix both in. I stay upright with tight elbows and straight body posture till I can't do anymore, then I curl forward with my chest and legs in a C shape and flair my elbows out and push out a few more.
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    Jun 02, 2008 5:59 AM GMT
    How do you do dips without endangering the shoulders? I did them for a while but man, it is some extreme movements in the shoulders and under high weights it really doesn't feel safe, compared to flys, presses, etc. Any specifics on proper form w/r/t the scaps?
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    Jun 15, 2008 12:44 AM GMT
    Triggerman said...Lean forward, with your body in a C-shape, with elbows out at right angles to your body, that is a chest exercise. A very good chest exercise.

    Keep your upper body upright, with your arms close to your body and elbows pointed back, that is a triceps exercise...


    My trainer has me doing just what Trig said -- assisted on the machine, face away from the machine, and push chest out in a C-shape. I haven't had any longterm pain issues in shoulders or anywhere. I haven't tried Trig's other recommendations emphacizing triceps, tho. I will give it a try starting this week.