Obamacare

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    Nov 16, 2010 5:51 AM GMT
    How come a lot of Obama's buddies are quiet about the impact of Obamacare? Because he gave them a waiver to opt out. If Obamacare is so great for the economy and the workers, why is the White House approving opt out waivers?
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    Nov 16, 2010 6:53 AM GMT
    With prior approval. Offer subjected to change at anytime. Customer must pay higher taxes. frees and penalties may incur if customer remains unemployed. customer's life span subjected to approval by Death Council. Customer forfeits any rights of cutting edge surgical procedures or pharmaceuticals. This offer cannot be combined with other promotions. Customer must provide caregiver with either one (1) firstborn child, or two (2) limbs, preferably an arm, and leg, in order to receive urgent care. profits from frees and subsidies will be used to build a golden statue of Nancy Pelosi and Obama eating cake. Offer expires whenever caregiver feels like it. limit 1 health issue per customer.

    Then you have this too. I think all some people ever seen was: "FREE heathcare!" Then thought that would give us more cash to spend on our republican lifestyle, that we don't want to work for either.icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Nov 16, 2010 1:24 PM GMT
    Tell you one thing - very, very few Democrats who voted yes and were up for reelection wanted to talk about their yes vote. The more people learned about it, the less they liked it and the angrier they became. Further digging themselves deeper, the Democratic leaders state and some loyal followers believe the problem was they did not have enough opportunity to tell us how wonderful it is, and we were too stupid to understand.
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    Nov 17, 2010 2:49 PM GMT
    did you catch this tidbit of interest:

    A coalition of insurance companies donated over $86M to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce to fight the passage of health care reform. The Chamber is notoriously run by GOP-insiders.
    The spending exceeded the insurer group’s entire budget from a year earlier and accounted for 40 percent of the Chamber’s $214.6 million in 2009 spending. The expenditures reflect the insurers’ attempts to influence the bill after Democrats in Congress and the White House put more focus on regulation of the insurance industry. The $86.2 million paid for advertisements, polling and grass roots events to drum up opposition to the bill that’s projected to provide coverage to 32 million previously uninsured Americans, according to Tom Collamore, a Chamber of Commerce spokesman. The Chamber used the funds to “advance a market- based health-care system and advocate for fundamental reform that would improve access to quality care while lowering costs,” it said in a statement.
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    Nov 17, 2010 6:43 PM GMT
    UpperCanadian saiddid you catch this tidbit of interest:

    A coalition of insurance companies donated over $86M to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce to fight the passage of health care reform. The Chamber is notoriously run by GOP-insiders.
    The spending exceeded the insurer group’s entire budget from a year earlier and accounted for 40 percent of the Chamber’s $214.6 million in 2009 spending. The expenditures reflect the insurers’ attempts to influence the bill after Democrats in Congress and the White House put more focus on regulation of the insurance industry. The $86.2 million paid for advertisements, polling and grass roots events to drum up opposition to the bill that’s projected to provide coverage to 32 million previously uninsured Americans, according to Tom Collamore, a Chamber of Commerce spokesman. The Chamber used the funds to “advance a market- based health-care system and advocate for fundamental reform that would improve access to quality care while lowering costs,” it said in a statement.


    Can you reference this quote: "The Chamber is notoriously run by GOP-insiders"? I highly doubt this is the case. An alternative explanation of course, is that the bill was simply a bad one. As it turns out, it is really bad one especially for small business and for no reasons related to health care (though on healthcare specifically is helping to drive rates higher).

    http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/05/smallbusiness/1099_health_care_tax_change/index.htm
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    Nov 17, 2010 6:51 PM GMT
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    UpperCanadian saiddid you catch this tidbit of interest:

    A coalition of insurance companies donated over $86M to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce to fight the passage of health care reform. The Chamber is notoriously run by GOP-insiders.
    The spending exceeded the insurer group’s entire budget from a year earlier and accounted for 40 percent of the Chamber’s $214.6 million in 2009 spending. The expenditures reflect the insurers’ attempts to influence the bill after Democrats in Congress and the White House put more focus on regulation of the insurance industry. The $86.2 million paid for advertisements, polling and grass roots events to drum up opposition to the bill that’s projected to provide coverage to 32 million previously uninsured Americans, according to Tom Collamore, a Chamber of Commerce spokesman. The Chamber used the funds to “advance a market- based health-care system and advocate for fundamental reform that would improve access to quality care while lowering costs,” it said in a statement.


    Can you reference this quote: "The Chamber is notoriously run by GOP-insiders"? I highly doubt this is the case. An alternative explanation of course, is that the bill was simply a bad one. As it turns out, it is really bad one especially for small business and for no reasons related to health care (though on healthcare specifically is helping to drive rates higher).

    http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/05/smallbusiness/1099_health_care_tax_change/index.htm


    I wondered about that too - because that certainly was not explained in the article.