Skinny Jeans and Race

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    Nov 16, 2010 2:33 PM GMT
    Within the last couple years, the growing trend among urban male culture (code for: black young men) is to throw out their "baggy loose fits" and only wear skinny jeans...A handful of black rappers started doing it, so the fashion trend and debate began.

    I've heard many black men/women say things like "that's gay and so is he" and "Homosexuals are influencing our young people negatively" and "we're seeing the feminizing of our male youth."

    BUT they all tend to forget that only over 30-40 years ago, everyone was wearing skinny jeans and you'd be laughed at or accused of wearing hand-me-downs if you had on "baggy loose fits".

    So I got to thinking, many of my white friends (of various ages) wear "skinny jeans" and have no problems with it...its not even a fashion trend for them, that's just the jeans they happen to have that were on sale...none of them get accused of "being gay" or any of the negative reactions.

    What is your perspective on this skinny jeans vs baggy jeans debate...is it just a big deal to certain cultures/communities? Do skinny jeans in some way really symbolize a certain Queerness or femininity?

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    Nov 16, 2010 2:47 PM GMT
    I don't consider skinny jeans a sign of feminism in males. However people do look at me and assume I'm a fag.

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    Tight is Right

    -When I was 25, and I finally developed an ass I started wearing everything extremely tight. Haven't changed.
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    Nov 16, 2010 2:58 PM GMT
    I know this will never happen, but I wish people could learn to think for themselves and wear what they want to wear, instead of letting some fashionista dictate what they should or should not wear. I think it's totally fucking stupid to judge people by their clothes, and it's even stupider to let those judgmental jerks get on your nerves.

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    Nov 16, 2010 3:13 PM GMT
    Where the hell have they been, Indy? The late 60s and all the 70s and much of the 80s it was all form fitting clothes for men.

    -Doug
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    Nov 16, 2010 3:20 PM GMT
    meninlove said Where the hell have they been, Indy? The late 60s and all the 70s and much of the 80s it was all form fitting clothes for men.

    -Doug


    Yeah I don't get it! When discussing this with them I even mention the NBA and the short-shorts the guys used to wear...they all just say "that was back then, this is now." SMH
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    Nov 16, 2010 3:22 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidI think it's totally fucking stupid to judge people by their clothes, and it's even stupider to let those judgmental jerks get on your nerves.


    I agree...I've been in discussions with people where we're talking about the VMAs or some other performance from a musician and they will fixate on what the guy was wearing instead of his music...smh...
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    Nov 16, 2010 3:28 PM GMT
    Indy404 said
    paulflexes saidI think it's totally fucking stupid to judge people by their clothes, and it's even stupider to let those judgmental jerks get on your nerves.


    I agree...I've been in discussions with people where we're talking about the VMAs or some other performance from a musician and they will fixate on what the guy was wearing instead of his music...smh...
    I think musicians should be required to perform nude...as well as athletes...especially the tall hot muscular/ripped basketball players. icon_twisted.gif

    (and Maurice is gonna kill me if he sees this - he's a pro b-ball player and a good friend of mine) icon_lol.gif
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    Nov 16, 2010 4:19 PM GMT
    paulflexes said
    Indy404 said
    paulflexes saidI think it's totally fucking stupid to judge people by their clothes, and it's even stupider to let those judgmental jerks get on your nerves.


    I agree...I've been in discussions with people where we're talking about the VMAs or some other performance from a musician and they will fixate on what the guy was wearing instead of his music...smh...
    I think musicians should be required to perform nude...as well as athletes...especially the tall hot muscular/ripped basketball players. icon_twisted.gif

    (and Maurice is gonna kill me if he sees this - he's a pro b-ball player and a good friend of mine) icon_lol.gif


    LMAO!
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    Nov 16, 2010 4:30 PM GMT
    Indy404 saidSo I got to thinking, many of my white friends (of various ages) wear "skinny jeans" and have no problems with it...its not even a fashion trend for them, that's just the jeans they happen to have that were on sale...none of them get accused of "being gay" or any of the negative reactions.


    Really? When I started seeing guys wearing skinny jeans or stretch pants several years ago, I assumed they were gay. Then again, I haven't seen many black guys wearing skinny jeans either. They were all white and emo / scene kids. You know, the ones that "aren't gay, we just make out with guys to get girls' attention."

    I've always stuck to loose / baggier jeans. They've always just been more comfortable to me. I've been told to wear tighter fitting jeans to show off my ass, but my reply has always been that I don't have one. I've always secretly wished I were at least part black, so that I could have somewhat of an ass. Black guys generally have nice asses.
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    Nov 16, 2010 4:35 PM GMT
    I wear fitting jeans but I woud never buy skinny jeans....

    And I better not mention the fact that I'm in apparel/fashion business and I write fashion articles for the locals .......

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  • aiko14

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    Nov 16, 2010 4:42 PM GMT
    i wear straight cut.... skinny jeans look very glam rock to me :p
    hunky men (big thighs and legs) can pull off skinny jeans anytime icon_razz.gif
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    Nov 16, 2010 4:55 PM GMT
    i wear baggy jeans (but not really baggy or anything, just tastefully so) and i like that look. i don't really care if someone wears skinny jeans or not, i just don't think it looks flattering on most guys.

    skinny jeans themselves don't symbolize femininity, but lots of gay ppl wear them so they get associated with homosexuality. so when you say

    Indy404I've heard many black men/women say things like "that's gay and so is he" and "Homosexuals are influencing our young people negatively" and "we're seeing the feminizing of our male youth."


    i think that those ppl are just homophobes, and it could be anything that makes them say that, like wearing a certain colour of shirt or tilting your hat a certain way or having an earring on your right ear. cuz you can have earrings on both ears and its cool but on your right ear you're gay icon_rolleyes.gif

    so i don't think it's the skinny jeans that are the big deal.. it's the perceived integration of homosexuals into the rest of society that is the big deal to them.
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    Nov 16, 2010 6:17 PM GMT
    I love skinny jeans. They fit well and look really sleek, especially for someone who's not really tall.
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    Nov 17, 2010 1:08 AM GMT
    Indy404 saidWithin the last couple years, the growing trend among urban male culture (code for: black young men) is to throw out their "baggy loose fits" and only wear skinny jeans...A handful of black rappers started doing it, so the fashion trend and debate began.

    I've heard many black men/women say things like "that's gay and so is he" and "Homosexuals are influencing our young people negatively" and "we're seeing the feminizing of our male youth."

    BUT they all tend to forget that only over 30-40 years ago, everyone was wearing skinny jeans and you'd be laughed at or accused of wearing hand-me-downs if you had on "baggy loose fits".

    So I got to thinking, many of my white friends (of various ages) wear "skinny jeans" and have no problems with it...its not even a fashion trend for them, that's just the jeans they happen to have that were on sale...none of them get accused of "being gay" or any of the negative reactions.

    What is your perspective on this skinny jeans vs baggy jeans debate...is it just a big deal to certain cultures/communities? Do skinny jeans in some way really symbolize a certain Queerness or femininity?

    cudi04.jpg


    I've noticed this trend too. It's much less apparent in college, but you do notice it to an extent. Just a few years ago, no "urban" male would ever be caught wearing tight jeans or a tight shirt. They would automatically be lumped into the "gay" category. Nowadays, tight clothing amongst urban male youth is generally accepted. A lot of young men like to show off their bodes through these tighter clothing as opposed to hiding themselves behind triple x t-shirts. Before, showing off your body was seen as "effeminate" and gay. Believe me, I fell into that trap and stocked up on xxxl tall tees. This just comes to show you that clothing labeled as "feminine" or "masculine" is all a social construct. Just wear what you want. Your style may become the new trend.....eventually........
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    Nov 17, 2010 1:40 AM GMT
    Homophobia is a big part on how the black community behave and blacks can react very negatively to anything that they see is a threat for 'converting' black 'straight' men to homosexual. I remember when I was 18 years old and I tried to wear a muscle shirt my father and I almost had a big fight over it and although he didn't say the reason why I should not wear it, in my mind I knew he thought it appeared not straight. They tend to see black culture as straight and white culture as being more catered to gays. That is why there are so many black men on the DL.
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    Nov 17, 2010 1:58 AM GMT
    Ashley80 said Homophobia is a big part on how the black community behave and blacks can react very negatively to anything that they see is a threat for 'converting' black 'straight' men to homosexual. I remember when I was 18 years old and I tried to wear a muscle shirt my father and I almost had a big fight over it and although he didn't say the reason why I should not wear it, in my mind I knew he thought it appeared not straight. They tend to see black culture as straight and white culture as being more catered to gays. That is why there are so many black men on the DL.


    ^This.
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    Nov 17, 2010 2:44 AM GMT
    Ashley80 said Homophobia is a big part on how the black community behave and blacks can react very negatively to anything that they see is a threat for 'converting' black 'straight' men to homosexual. I remember when I was 18 years old and I tried to wear a muscle shirt my father and I almost had a big fight over it and although he didn't say the reason why I should not wear it, in my mind I knew he thought it appeared not straight. They tend to see black culture as straight and white culture as being more catered to gays. That is why there are so many black men on the DL.

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    Nov 17, 2010 3:07 AM GMT
    My ass would burst the seams and not in a good way. Ughh!! 40 more lbs and I'll get me some icon_biggrin.gif
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    Nov 17, 2010 4:52 AM GMT
    is that kid cudi? that is not a very good picture of him.
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    Nov 17, 2011 5:05 PM GMT
    I'm usually not a skinny jeans guy, but I wore my brother's today. They made me feel just a little more gay on the inside and outside icon_cool.gif

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  • kew1

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    Nov 17, 2011 5:34 PM GMT
    Indy404 said.

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    That's baggy compared to some - I've spotted guys wearing jeans that look like denim tights.