The Republicans Push to Defund NPR, THANKFULLY FAILS!

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    Nov 18, 2010 7:01 PM GMT
    WASHINGTON -- The Republican campaign to take away all federal funding from National Public Radio (NPR) was over before it began, with GOP lawmakers' procedural trick to force a vote on the issue failing on Thursday. It was the first GOP-ordered House vote since the election.

    The proposal to defund NPR was the latest winning item on the Republicans' gimmicky YouCut site, which allows the public to pick the cuts they would like to see receive an up-or-down vote on the House floor. In order to get these votes, they try to make a procedural vote on an unrelated piece of legislation the vote on the YouCut item.

    "This week's winning YouCut proposal is sponsored by Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-CO), and would terminate all taxpayer funding of National Public Radio (NPR), saving taxpayers potentially tens of millions of -- perhaps even over a hundred million -- dollars," read a release from Rep. Eric Cantor's (R-Va.) office. "Implementing this initiative would signal that the days of bailing out irresponsible decision-makers at taxpayers' expense are over.

    Democrats easily scuttled the GOP maneuver on Thursday, voting 239-171 to close debate on the underlying measure and move on, without voting on the NPR proposal.

    In a speech making the case for taking away NPR's federal funding, House Minority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) stood up for Fox News commentator Juan Williams, who was recently fired by NPR for comments he made about Muslims while on the conservative network, saying, "To be clear, it is not the government's job to tell a news organization how to do its job. But what's equally certain is it should not be the taxpayers' responsibility to fund news organizations with a partisan point of view."

    Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-Mich.) argued to The Huffington Post that taking away federal funding would save taxpayers money but wouldn't necessarily doom the radio network.

    "The head of NPR recently indicated that losing out on the federal money wouldn't be that big a deal," said Hoekstra. "If their president thinks the money doesn't make much difference, we should allocate it to higher priorities."

    He added that he talkd to his region's local NPR affiliates, and they said they get about 15 percent of their funding through the Corporation of Public Broadcasting, which is the parent organization of NPR and PBS. Taking away this money would hurt them, but they would survive. Hoekstra noted that NPR isn't his first choice of a radio station anyway; he prefers listening to Fox radio when he can access it.

    Rep. Stephen Lynch (D-Mass.) said that he really enjoyed NPR's work and would "certainly hate to see that go away."

    When the federal debt commission co-chairs put out a proposal to take away federal funding for public broadcasting, NPR out out a statement saying that such a move would have "a profound and detrimental impact on all Americans."

    "Federal funding has been a central component of public radio stations' ability to serve audiences across the country," said NPR. "It's imperative for funding to continue to ensure that this essential tool of democracy survives and thrives well into the future."

    By: Amanda terkel w/ Ryan Grim

    *** Here's a splendid example of the "art of distraction." BTW: the statements made above by the Republicans are deliberately and blatantly false. The amount of funding to NPR by taxpayer contributions is far beyond miniscule in the grand design (similiar to the NEA). Maybe this is the Republican's methodology to create jobs?
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    Nov 18, 2010 7:04 PM GMT
    Someone on NPR was just talking the other day about how vital the taxpayer funding is to NPR and that they wouldn't be able to afford to lose it. Whether it is significant or not they should be privatized. They are far from objective and they should be strictly listener supported. We need to cut as much as possible no matter how insignificant it seems.
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    Nov 18, 2010 7:08 PM GMT
    mocktwinkie saidSomeone on NPR was just talking the other day about how vital the taxpayer funding is to NPR and that they wouldn't be able to afford to lose it. Whether it is significant or not they should be privatized. They are far from objective and they should be strictly listener supported. We need to cut as much as possible no matter how insignificant it seems.


    Lets start with ending the wars, cutting the defense budget, lower taxes on the middle class so they buy more, get rid of the Bush tax cuts, increase taxes on corporations,and reinvest in infrastructure and education.

    In the long run the reinvestments will increase tax revenue, and we can lower taxes (reasonably) on the wealthiest Americans.
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    Nov 18, 2010 8:00 PM GMT
    Is NPR a non-profit network, or a single station?

    Is it like PBS that uses annual telethons to raise revenues they need for programming?
    Or is it like a fund that public radio stations can draw from?



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    Nov 18, 2010 9:19 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkie saidSomeone on NPR was just talking the other day about how vital the taxpayer funding is to NPR and that they wouldn't be able to afford to lose it. Whether it is significant or not they should be privatized. They are far from objective and they should be strictly listener supported. We need to cut as much as possible no matter how insignificant it seems.


    Lets start with ending the wars, cutting the defense budget, lower taxes on the middle class so they buy more, get rid of the Bush tax cuts, increase taxes on corporations,and reinvest in infrastructure and education.

    In the long run the reinvestments will increase tax revenue, and we can lower taxes (reasonably) on the wealthiest Americans.


    I agree on ending the wars and cutting the defense budget. Increasing taxes on corporations would be absolutely horrible. Do you want to just completely kill the economy? Do you really want to send every last job over to china? Apparently so.

    Who's money do you proposed be used for all of this "infrastructure" and "education" that you speak of? Where do you think it's going to come from.

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    Nov 18, 2010 9:22 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkie saidSomeone on NPR was just talking the other day about how vital the taxpayer funding is to NPR and that they wouldn't be able to afford to lose it. Whether it is significant or not they should be privatized. They are far from objective and they should be strictly listener supported. We need to cut as much as possible no matter how insignificant it seems.

    Apparently too much Fox News has addled your brain. Not only is NPR objective, but every time a right-winger screams they bend over backwards to accommodate him.



    You obviously don't listen to NPR or you wouldn't come to this conclusion. I listen to it every single morning, far more than I ever watch fox news, some times for 2 hours and they routinely have guests on there who propose government solutions to problems and never do they feature anyone with free market ideas or solutions. They are extremely biased, not only on economic matters but they also push opinionated trivia. Some person was featured on the show who was talking about "benign bigotry" and how it's so prevalent in our society. Like who cares? Everybody hates something!

    And while they do occasionally feature individuals from both the right and left perspectives they overwhelmingly cater to callers and guests who express opinions that lean heavily left.
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    Nov 18, 2010 10:17 PM GMT
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    mocktwinkie saidAnd while they do occasionally feature individuals from both the right and left perspectives they overwhelmingly cater to callers and guests who express opinions that lean heavily left.

    That's because the right-wingers are all listening to or watching Fox. You know, all call-in shows are actually dependent on who calls. They can't round up people to fit some notion of balance.


    I just got done telling you that they always feature a guest with government solutions to problems but never one proposing free market ideas.
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    Nov 18, 2010 10:38 PM GMT
    I don't know, the number of sneers and jeers on Glenn Beck's show far exceeds those on NPR. (I have the misfortune of having a coworker who's more "senior" than me listen to Glenn Beck at work)

    When was the last time somebody or something was deliberately misquoted and parodied on NPR, on a daily basis?

    If not for the content (I can't say because I only listen to NPR when my journal digest CD runs out), NPR at least presents its news objectively, without literally spewing hot air, grunting or sneering. (Fine if you call it comedy or parody, but don't call it news or even commentary)
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    Nov 18, 2010 10:49 PM GMT
    UpperCanadian saidIs NPR a non-profit network, or a single station?

    Is it like PBS that uses annual telethons to raise revenues they need for programming?
    Or is it like a fund that public radio stations can draw from?



    NPR is like the radio version of PBS. It is nonprofit and has about 800 stations, many of them at a university or campus. They are privately and publicly funded. They do not have commercials but do have short statements from big donors. They don't call them telethons, but individual stations have pledge drives to raise money. Besides their well known talk shows, they also have music. In many markets, it is the only remaining broadcast radio that still plays classical. Many think that is enough reason to keep funding NPR.
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    Nov 18, 2010 11:25 PM GMT
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    UpperCanadian saidIs NPR a non-profit network, or a single station?

    Is it like PBS that uses annual telethons to raise revenues they need for programming?
    Or is it like a fund that public radio stations can draw from?



    NPR is like the radio version of PBS. It is nonprofit and has about 800 stations, many of them at a university or campus. They are privately and publicly funded. They do not have commercials but do have short statements from big donors. They don't call them telethons, but individual stations have pledge drives to raise money. Besides their well known talk shows, they also have music. In many markets, it is the only remaining broadcast radio that still plays classical. Many think that is enough reason to keep funding NPR.

    With all the stations, including those that play classical music, streaming on the internet, as well as podcasts, people in every market should have access provided they have a suitable internet connection.
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    Nov 18, 2010 11:36 PM GMT
    First Order of Business ............. Hear Yee - Here Yee icon_rolleyes.gif

    What does the republican party do as a newly elected entity?

    Do they try to help the millions of people unemployed?
    Try to stop corruption in the streets?

    ................................................... No - they tried to defund NPR

    Now - if YOU think this group of clowns is going to ANYTHING but grandstand and make pledges you've got another thing coming
    because as a whole they couldn't light a 30 Watt bulb

    See ya on the other side icon_wink.gif
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    Heartrobb said
    UpperCanadian saidIs NPR a non-profit network, or a single station?

    Is it like PBS that uses annual telethons to raise revenues they need for programming?
    Or is it like a fund that public radio stations can draw from?



    NPR is like the radio version of PBS. It is nonprofit and has about 800 stations, many of them at a university or campus. They are privately and publicly funded. They do not have commercials but do have short statements from big donors. They don't call them telethons, but individual stations have pledge drives to raise money. Besides their well known talk shows, they also have music. In many markets, it is the only remaining broadcast radio that still plays classical. Many think that is enough reason to keep funding NPR.

    With all the stations, including those that play classical music, streaming on the internet, as well as podcasts, people in every market should have access provided they have a suitable internet connection.



    It sounds just like like CBC Radio then. (which is also widely characterised as being too left-wing, come to think of it.)

    It is mandated to broadcast to and from every possible community in Canada, in both official languages (and, in the north, Inuktitut), however remote, and also to inform the world of Canadian news and perspectives through Radio Canada International.

    To do that they are entirely government funded, on the theory that this country is just too big and sparsely populated to make it cost effective for anyone to do it otherwise (like mail delivery.

    I expect the US market, with a much more even distribution of population, could make it viable in a free market format.


    At one time, fulfilling its domestic mandate required CBC maintain a lot of expensive infrastructure to set up a radio & TV stations with newsgathering and broadcast capability in each community , from Toronto, to Igloolik, Vancouver to Dildo, NL (bwahahahaha!!).

    New technology has made is easier to use more of that subsidy for its international mandate which encompasses nationwide newsgathering, then broadcast to the world on RCI

    This makes for a deep well of in-depth domestic journalism, perhaps more so than if it depended on free-market-driven funding.

    So CBC focuses on maintaining its reputation on journalism, deeply informative talk radio, and highbrow music., in contrast to commercial stations.

    That is, it is derided by some as "elitist" and too left wing.

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    Nov 19, 2010 12:56 AM GMT
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    GQjock saidFirst Order of Business ............. Hear Yee - Here Yee icon_rolleyes.gif

    What does the republican party do as a newly elected entity?

    Do they try to help the millions of people unemployed?
    Try to stop corruption in the streets?

    ................................................... No - they tried to defund NPR

    Now - if YOU think this group of clowns is going to ANYTHING but grandstand and make pledges you've got another thing coming
    because as a whole they couldn't light a 30 Watt bulb

    See ya on the other side icon_wink.gif


    Hear Yee - Here (sic) Yee

    Those 60 seats that the Democrats lost to the Republicans in the election a few weeks ago are still filled by Democrats.... until January of 2011.

    Do you understand?

    The Republican party "as a newly elected entity" doesn't control the House until January of 2011.

    Do you understand?

    The people who won the election on November 2, 2010 don't take office until January of 2011. They can't vote for anything yet.

    Do you understand?



    LOL .............. You're funny SB

    Republicans in the House of Representatives will force a floor vote Thursday to defund NPR, a move they have been promising since the public broadcaster fired Juan Williams last month.

    House Republican Whip Eric Cantor and Rep. Doug Lamborn (R-CO) made it clear in a statement Wednesday that their call to stop federal funding of NPR was tied to the firing of Juan Williams, who lost his job after telling a Fox News panel that he felt "nervous" and "worried" when he saw Muslims at airports.


    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/gop-force-vote-defunding-npr/

    The republicans after the election .......... Eric Cator and Lamborn already seated and ready to vote tried to force the vote

    But Dems still out number them

    'swhy it FAILED

    what's old is what's new
    America is falling apart ......... Bush's two wars and the economy is crumbling around their ears and what do they do?
    They go after ACORN ..... and Now NPR

    Ooooooooooooh ....... they're so scary icon_biggrin.gif

    Again if you guys weren't so damned dangerous you'd be a hell of a laugh
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    Nov 19, 2010 1:39 AM GMT
    The Republicans will be taking over in January and hopefully this bill be brought up again. I dont care if NPR is conservative, liberal or independent, it shouldn't be funded with taxpayer money. The government cannot afford it. This is the first step in cutting spending.
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    Nov 19, 2010 2:04 AM GMT
    CHRIS6464 saidThe Republicans will be taking over in January and hopefully this bill be brought up again. I dont care if NPR is conservative, liberal or independent, it shouldn't be funded with taxpayer money. The government cannot afford it. This is the first step in cutting spending.


    I sincerely hope you cease driving on public roads.
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    Nov 19, 2010 5:12 AM GMT
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    mocktwinkie saidSomeone on NPR was just talking the other day about how vital the taxpayer funding is to NPR and that they wouldn't be able to afford to lose it. Whether it is significant or not they should be privatized. They are far from objective and they should be strictly listener supported. We need to cut as much as possible no matter how insignificant it seems.


    Lets start with ending the wars, cutting the defense budget, lower taxes on the middle class so they buy more, get rid of the Bush tax cuts, increase taxes on corporations,and reinvest in infrastructure and education.

    In the long run the reinvestments will increase tax revenue, and we can lower taxes (reasonably) on the wealthiest Americans.


    I agree on ending the wars and cutting the defense budget. Increasing taxes on corporations would be absolutely horrible. Do you want to just completely kill the economy? Do you really want to send every last job over to china? Apparently so.

    Who's money do you proposed be used for all of this "infrastructure" and "education" that you speak of? Where do you think it's going to come from.



    Buddy...the wealthy got tax breaks under Bush AND THE STILL SENT JOBS OVERSEAS, what about this do you not get?
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    Nov 19, 2010 5:15 AM GMT
    CHRIS6464 saidThe Republicans will be taking over in January and hopefully this bill be brought up again. I dont care if NPR is conservative, liberal or independent, it shouldn't be funded with taxpayer money. The government cannot afford it. This is the first step in cutting spending.


    We should stop paying politicians too.

    We should also stop subsidizing corporate resources.
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    Nov 19, 2010 11:37 AM GMT
    CHRIS6464 saidThe Republicans will be taking over in January and hopefully this bill be brought up again. I dont care if NPR is conservative, liberal or independent, it shouldn't be funded with taxpayer money. The government cannot afford it. This is the first step in cutting spending.


    The government can't AFFORD it?

    Oh but the Government CAN afford to give tax breaks to the tune of HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of dollars ....... to the very same people who CAUSED this financial mess in the first place
    That they can afford

    When you post?
    Try to say to yourself ......... self- does what I am about to say really make any sense? If the answer isn't yes? Don't post icon_wink.gif

    Under the republican way of doing things ...............
    We're going to have drastically reduced coverage under Medicare
    and Social Security Benefits with States and Schools continuing to limp along giving shoddy care
    .................... while we continue to subsidize people who are right now taking home 24% of EVERYTHING that is made and sold in America
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    Nov 19, 2010 2:34 PM GMT
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    CHRIS6464 saidThe Republicans will be taking over in January and hopefully this bill be brought up again. I dont care if NPR is conservative, liberal or independent, it shouldn't be funded with taxpayer money. The government cannot afford it. This is the first step in cutting spending.


    I sincerely hope you cease driving on public roads.


    What does that have to do with NPR?


    CHRISMA apparently thinks he is able to determine what the government should and should not fund, so perhaps he shouldn't take advantage of any thing funded by the federal government. No highways, no airports, no flying, no museums, etc.
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    Christian73 said
    CHRIS6464 saidThe Republicans will be taking over in January and hopefully this bill be brought up again. I dont care if NPR is conservative, liberal or independent, it shouldn't be funded with taxpayer money. The government cannot afford it. This is the first step in cutting spending.


    I sincerely hope you cease driving on public roads.


    What does that have to do with NPR?


    CHRISMA apparently thinks he is able to determine what the government should and should not fund, so perhaps he shouldn't take advantage of any thing funded by the federal government. No highways, no airports, no flying, no museums, etc.


    How about putting it to a vote whether highways should be taxpayer funded and putting NPR to a vote if it should be taxpayer funded? icon_smile.gif

    And museums should not be state funded either.
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    Nov 19, 2010 5:27 PM GMT
    And how is not defunding NPR suppose to make our lives better. In other words: who the hell cares! Thread's title sounds like major gay rights legislation had just overcome Republican opposition.
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    Mepark saidAnd how is not defunding NPR suppose to make our lives better. In other words: who the hell cares! Thread's title sounds like major gay rights legislation had overcome Republican opposition.


    You probably wouldn't understand if you aren't aware that America has a budget crisis and that cuts need to be made, even if they are small.
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    Nov 19, 2010 5:30 PM GMT
    ^ well I know, that's my point.... kind of. hence the "who the hell cares" comment.
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    GQjock said
    CHRIS6464 saidThe Republicans will be taking over in January and hopefully this bill be brought up again. I dont care if NPR is conservative, liberal or independent, it shouldn't be funded with taxpayer money. The government cannot afford it. This is the first step in cutting spending.


    The government can't AFFORD it?

    Oh but the Government CAN afford to give tax breaks to the tune of HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of dollars ....... to the very same people who CAUSED this financial mess in the first place
    That they can afford

    When you post?
    Try to say to yourself ......... self- does what I am about to say really make any sense? If the answer isn't yes? Don't post icon_wink.gif

    Under the republican way of doing things ...............
    We're going to have drastically reduced coverage under Medicare
    and Social Security Benefits with States and Schools continuing to limp along giving shoddy care
    .................... while we continue to subsidize people who are right now taking home 24% of EVERYTHING that is made and sold in America


    Saying the government "can't afford tax breaks" is ludicrous. What you should be saying is "the government wants to keep spending at or above current levels and needs more money from the citizens to accomplish this."
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lets not forget Southbeach that the reason we're in this situation with our broken economy, is that big business (banking, hedge fund interests, big oil interests, other major corps and the very wealthy) bought and paid for, through lobbying and supporting NeoConservative think tanks, the policies and wars/tax breaks for the rich, that brought about this bad economy and debt. They were behind ending oversight for the banks and resorce (oil) wars, for their interests and against the middle and lower income classes. they also pay for the propaganda that supports the thinking of your ilk and that of the tea party and the republicorporation party. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hence !!!! Let the Corps and the wealthy whose interests caused the problems pay our way out of the whole they dug for our country, no more giveaways for the very rich, no more big oil welfare like subsidies, no more subsidizing big corps taking jobs overseas. (these are the corps spreading the lie that Union wages are the reason they take jobs overseas) End the tax shelters that bring about Citi Bank, JPMorgan Bank, and GE paying no federal taxes last year, raise the limit on the cut off ($98,000) above which the wealthy pay no social security payments yet get huge SS retirement checks. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I could go on, but you get the idea. Talk about wealth redistribution !! Its been being redistrbuted upwards ever since Reagan trickle up economic ideas, yet the big money interests have duped many against their own interests into believing its the other way around. At this point in our history there is now similar obscene rates of wealth in the the hands of the few , only equaled to the Robber Barron Days of the latter 1800's and in the late 1920's, all of which brought down our economy's as history and the present exhibits quite well. But you keep buying that probaganda the rich pay for through lobbying, advertising and the likes of Freedom Works, its serving their interests well. How is it serving the many without jobs , the working poor and the shrinking middle class who vote against their own interests ?? Big money interests are laughing all the way to the banks at such fools !!!
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    Mepark saidAnd how is not defunding NPR suppose to make our lives better. In other words: who the hell cares! Thread's title sounds like major gay rights legislation had just overcome Republican opposition.


    NPR is one of the few sources of actual news left in our country. As a minority group, it's in our interest for that good journalism exists to counter the lies and misinformation propagated by Faux News and the like.