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    Mar 14, 2008 4:26 PM GMT
    http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/14/beckfloridamichigan/index.html
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    Mar 14, 2008 4:37 PM GMT
    I absolutely agree. Though it looks like Michigan might have a do over while Florida's chances are getting more and more dim. Michigan looks like they will have a primary June 3rd.

    *edit* I forgot to add a bit of polling. When whispers of a do over started a week ago Rasmussen did a poll where Michigan put Clinton and Obama at 41%. With Clinton behind 120 delegates that is bad news for her.
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    Mar 17, 2008 4:11 AM GMT
    I think it's hilarious. The Democratic party is a collection of control freaks. Howard Dean demands to be in control, of other control freaks. There's no place for this to go but chaos. Now they want Florida and Michigan to jump through hoops. This just keeps getting better every day.
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    Mar 17, 2008 5:08 AM GMT
    Why control freaks?
    The DNC made the rules last year. Florida and Michigan willingly went out on their own against those rules. They knew the consequences of having an early vote, but the state democratic parties went ahead anyway. Not a big deal, except now the vote is so close that those delegates can make the difference between winning and losing (or probably that no one will have the required number of delegates).

    I don't find it unreasonable for them to have to "jump through hoops" to fix the situation.
    I don't think the other states or the national DNC should have to bail them out financially since they knowingly broke the rules.
    Although it would be nice to tidy up this mess so that whoever is chosen can start to concentrate on beating McCain in November instead of each battling each other. I hope that they can come up with a solution to bring this quickly to an end.

    And i also agree with the article that if Hillary thinks that the votes should just be counted anyway she has to be crazy.
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    Mar 17, 2008 11:09 AM GMT
    Interesting. It's an era of post-modernity that we live in when what's right for you is right for you and what's right for me is right for me. Unfortunately, most people think that what's right for them is the easy way out and personal accountability has been defenestrated.

    The housing thing in particular burns me up. My initial reaction is that these folks should suffer and endure the consequences for their poor judgment; how else will they learn? But does that put them on the street? Kids without shelter and food and/or separated from their parent(s)? Those strike me as too harsh but a big hand-out from the government isn't acceptable either. As I understand it, the government can never give people anything, it can only take it from one citizen and redistribute it to another, right?
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    Mar 24, 2008 3:54 PM GMT
    I've come to the realization that the DNC is throwing the game. How else can you explain it? The DNC has had it's shit together in previous primaries.


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    Mar 24, 2008 4:02 PM GMT
    John43620 saidI think it's hilarious. The Democratic party is a collection of control freaks. Howard Dean demands to be in control, of other control freaks. There's no place for this to go but chaos. Now they want Florida and Michigan to jump through hoops. This just keeps getting better every day.


    I agree with you, John...the Republican Party couldn't have been given a better gift if they had scripted it themselves. The Dems just don't get it...they can't win an election putting up a candidate that is not truly experienced enough (or universally liked enough) for the job who's only battle cry is to bash the current administration. Come up with a great candidate, with the needed experience, and some truly fresh and inspiring ideas, and maybe they could have a chance. All they've got is a bunch of Bush-bashing power freaks that are so desperate to take control that they can only manage to shoot themselves in the foot. This is good stuff!
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    Mar 24, 2008 4:14 PM GMT
    I used to think our endless primary was a good thing. I thought it meant the Republicans couldn't aim all their bile at just one Democratic nominee. They would have to keep trying to take down both of them while we continued producing a moving target.

    But now it's just a horrible distraction. I saw a poll (granted, on DRUDGE) that showed McCain with a 10 point lead over both Barak and Hillary.

    Florida and Michigan broke the rules. As Bobby Brady said, "A rule is a rule." Sure, it's too bad their voters lose out because their state party was greedy, but that's the way it works.

    We need to end this now and pick one of two very worth candidates. Seriously, if we can't win this one, we need to pack it up and go home.


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    Mar 29, 2008 6:21 PM GMT
    mplsjock_writer, The Republican party isn't directing any bile towards the Democratic candidates. Senator McCain is squashing any of that when anyone does. Billy Cunningham in Cincinnati learned that right off. Senator McCain is trying to run a civil campaign and stay focussed on the issues and the differences in political philosophy.
    Unlike Senator McCain however, I can't help but spew some bile towards Senator Clinton and especially her husband.
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    Mar 29, 2008 6:34 PM GMT
    John43620 saidI think it's hilarious. The Democratic party is a collection of control freaks.


    This is funny, coming from a guy whose party enforces "message discipline" on every candidate they run, right down to dogcatcher.
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    Mar 30, 2008 10:39 PM GMT
    We Republicans are more oriented towards teamwork.
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    Apr 01, 2008 5:24 AM GMT
    Your sure right about the "republicans being more oriented toward teamwork" "thats what drove the Dept of Justice to rid the courts of the 9 judges who didn't play their "TEAMWORK" game of going after democratic candidates for trumped up voter fraud charges. then they were replaced by good "BUSHIES" who went along with their "TEAMWORK" (it also let to the head guy resigning didn't it, over politicizing the Dept of Justice-thats "TEAMWORK" for you) "TEAMWORK" just force out General Fallon too because he wasn't going along with the "WAR IN IRAN TEAMWORK" A lot of other generals, corporals, cheifs of staff, and Colon Powell, left too before the Iraq war or early into it, because they had "OTHER" ideas about what should be done differently from the "BUSHIES" "TEAMWORK. and now what a sharade of "TEAMWORK" in politicizing the MILITARY COMMISSIONS to "RAILROAD" convictions of prisoners at Guantonimo. Its "TEAMWORK" alright, and half a dozen Military Lawyers have resigned in protest of this "BUSHIES" "TEAMWORK", now they'll be telling the truth as witnesses about how POLITICIZED "TEAMWORK" is framing things so the prisoners cannot get justice. GOTTA LOVE THE BUSHIES "TEAMWORK" DONTCHA !!!!! ITS THE CROOKEDEST "TEAM" EVER IN THE WHITEHOUSE !!!!! I HOPE YOUR PROUD OF THE "TEAMWORK" john43520-most of our citizens and the world have had enough of their "TEAMWORK"
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    Apr 01, 2008 6:47 AM GMT
    realifedad, justice for the GITMO inmates to me means skinning the bastards alive.

    I'm sure Mahmoud Ahmadinijad appreciates your concern for the safety of Iran. He'd thank you but then he'd have to execute you.