Apple Approves iPhone Anti GLBT rights App

  • metta

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    Nov 24, 2010 9:26 AM GMT
    Apple has approved an iPhone app which calls on users to sign up to a declaration against LGBT rights and gay marriage.


    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/11/23/apple-approves-anti-gay-iphone-app/
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    Nov 24, 2010 11:35 AM GMT
    Right... SOooOoOO Steve Jobs is Gay then! icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Nov 24, 2010 11:37 AM GMT
    I see nothing wrong with this. It's called freedom of speech. People are entitled to their opinions.
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    Nov 24, 2010 12:07 PM GMT
    FearTheFall saidI see nothing wrong with this. It's called freedom of speech. People are entitled to their opinions.


    should we allow an app for the black panthers and the kkk as well?

    its not a freedom of speech when it infringes the rights of others.. but then again this is the Canadian definition hence a non issue in Canada.
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    Nov 24, 2010 12:29 PM GMT
    PrinceOfArya said
    FearTheFall saidI see nothing wrong with this. It's called freedom of speech. People are entitled to their opinions.


    should we allow an app for the black panthers and the kkk as well?

    its not a freedom of speech when it infringes the rights of others.. but then again this is the Canadian definition hence a non issue in Canada.


    But this is America... where the KKK and anti-gays are not viewed as equal because anti-gay sentiment is based largely on the Bible and religion.
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    Nov 24, 2010 12:42 PM GMT
    This sounds like possibly the most boring App ever. Evangelical Christians are a bunch of losers.
  • tony_boost

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    Nov 24, 2010 12:48 PM GMT
    PrinceOfArya said
    FearTheFall saidI see nothing wrong with this. It's called freedom of speech. People are entitled to their opinions.


    should we allow an app for the black panthers and the kkk as well?

    its not a freedom of speech when it infringes the rights of others.. but then again this is the Canadian definition hence a non issue in Canada.


    I agree, if the app was just stating that you do not approve of homosexuality then it would be freedom of speech, but trying to take away gay rights is infringing on the rights of others, and like princeofarya said, apple would never approve of any racist apps icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Nov 24, 2010 12:49 PM GMT
    I'm a bit surprised the far right, knowing that it consists of conservative Christians, would use such an application. I mean, we all know that they are usually against change and especially hostile to science, technology, and education as a whole. icon_lol.gif
  • neosyllogy

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    Nov 24, 2010 1:03 PM GMT
    FearTheFall saidI see nothing wrong with this. It's called freedom of speech. People are entitled to their opinions.

    +1
  • neosyllogy

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    Nov 24, 2010 1:08 PM GMT
    PrinceOfArya said
    FearTheFall saidI see nothing wrong with this. It's called freedom of speech. People are entitled to their opinions.


    should we allow an app for the black panthers and the kkk as well?

    its not a freedom of speech when it infringes the rights of others.. but then again this is the Canadian definition hence a non issue in Canada.

    Yes to both.
    And you're in a democracy. The freedom to rewrite laws to reflect changing social standards and concepts of ethics is a multi-way street. The idea is to let everyone have their voice be heard and the best ideas rise to the top.
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    Nov 24, 2010 1:22 PM GMT
    Well, I suppose the test would be whether Apple has approved or disapproved any comparable pro-gay apps submitted to it. Does anyone know? I do not.

    Unless you want to consider Grindr, GayCities (which proved invaluable to me during recent trips), ManLight, and various other gay networking & services apps that Apple has approved.
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    Nov 24, 2010 2:05 PM GMT
    Um, you're all missing the point.

    Yes, everyone has a right to hold and to speak their opinion, including homophobes and racists. That includes advocating that the rights of others be taken away. If it's your opinion, you can speak it.

    However, no one has the RIGHT to host a TV show, or be paid to speak at a university, or get their app approved by Apple and sold on iTunes.
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    Nov 24, 2010 2:06 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidWell, I suppose the test would be whether Apple has approved or disapproved any comparable pro-gay apps submitted to it. Does anyone know? I do not.

    Unless you want to consider Grindr, GayCities (which proved invaluable to me during recent trips), ManLight, and various other gay networking & services apps.


    I think those certainly count.
  • Kage

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    Nov 24, 2010 3:05 PM GMT
    Freedom of speech is a double edged sword.
    To deny others the very right that you fight for is hypocrytical.icon_rolleyes.gif

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    Nov 24, 2010 3:06 PM GMT
    Kage saidFreedom of speech is a double edged sword.
    To deny others the very right that you fight for is hypocrytical.icon_rolleyes.gif


    Very true. And you have to think about free speech and when it crosses the line and becomes downright hateful and violent.

    Maybe we should create an application stating that only straight couples who truly love one another can get married as long as they are of the same faith, racial background, socioeconomic status, and education level. NO MORE of this getting married for the economic benefits, citizenship rights, and opportunity to wear a gorgeous designer dress.
  • Kage

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    Nov 24, 2010 3:15 PM GMT
    The problem with freedom of speech is that if you allow the right for one you have to allow the right for all.

    It is a dangerous ground when it is decided that one person, group, institution etc. has more freedom of speech than another.

    Very soon after that we will have another race, creed etc. that is oppressed.
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    Nov 24, 2010 3:20 PM GMT
    It's interesting that this "article" from the UK does not give the name of the offending app. In fact the only app named is the app they are trying to get gay readers to load to read the article.


    There is no mention of this issue in the US press so far, so this is looking more like a publicity stunt.


    Not looking or sounding too credible to me. I think there is exactly zero risk of Apple suddenly becoming homophobic.

  • jeepguySD

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    Nov 24, 2010 3:22 PM GMT
    metta8 saidApple has approved an iPhone app which calls on users to sign up to a declaration against LGBT rights and gay marriage.


    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2010/11/23/apple-approves-anti-gay-iphone-app/


    It seems to me that the best response to news like this is not to complain about it, but rather to write an app that does just the opposite -- that calls on users to sign a pro-LGBT rights declaration.

    I imagine the Human Rights Campaign, or other similar groups, could easily spearhead such an effort and be quite successful about it. HRC already has a buying guide app.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Nov 24, 2010 3:32 PM GMT
    Kage saidFreedom of speech is a double edged sword.
    To deny others the very right that you fight for is hypocrytical.icon_rolleyes.gif




    Exactly! It bums me out that anyone would even want such an app, or that Apple would even approve it, but at the end of the day everyone is entitled to an opinion.
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    Nov 24, 2010 3:43 PM GMT
    FearTheFall saidI see nothing wrong with this. It's called freedom of speech. People are entitled to their opinions.



    i mean. i dont like it but you're right. the only thing i could see as being a possilbe problem is the whole rateing system that apple has for their apps. the whole "offensive material thing" where they might have to change the rateing but the app itself technically isnt illegal.

    and if they have an offensive material rateing, technically i guess we cant have a gay friendly app recieve a "non offensive rateing"
  • Timbales

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    Nov 24, 2010 3:46 PM GMT
    Let Apple know you disapprove by boycotting their products.
  • Kage

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    Nov 24, 2010 3:51 PM GMT
    Timberoo saidLet Apple know you disapprove by boycotting their products.


    Bahahahahaha!
    Do you expect every gay guy that disaproves to what...return their Iphones, macs and ipods?

    I am sorry but we all know that is not going to happen.
    The best you can do is to write a "strongly worded letter".icon_rolleyes.gificon_twisted.gif
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Nov 24, 2010 3:55 PM GMT
    Timberoo saidLet Apple know you disapprove by boycotting their products.


    Hell no!!!! I love me my MacBook and iTouch
  • Sk8Tex

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    Nov 24, 2010 4:00 PM GMT
    FearTheFall saidI see nothing wrong with this. It's called freedom of speech. People are entitled to their opinions.


    iPhone also blocked an app that would allow users to watch full length Family Guy or South Park episodes on their phones... because they did not approve of the content of the shows. It was from the actual creators of South Park so its definitely not like it was an infringement issue on copyrights... they also blocked an iPhone app that was simply Dalai Lama quotes. Really?

    I think these things combined should really be a no-brainer as far as this companies stance goes. And no amount of sleek designs and catchy commercial tunes will ever cover it up for me.

    If you really want to test it, develop an app for the opposing side and lets see how far it gets...

    beta
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    Nov 24, 2010 4:05 PM GMT
    Timberoo saidLet Apple know you disapprove by boycotting their products.

    Apple was an outspoken opponent of the anti-gay marriage Prop 8 in California in 2008, and has gay-friendly corporate employment policies. It usually gets a perfect 100 score from HRC.

    I think this app issue is indeed a matter of taking a hands-off, non-judgemental First Amendment approach when it comes to politics. I believe Apple remains a good friend to the GLBT community, and would not boycott them over this.