Gay Mormons.

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    Nov 26, 2010 4:58 AM GMT
    I am in love with a mormon in my class. As simple as that.

    It reminds me of latter days. the movie.

    can mormons even be gay? whats the possiblity? icon_sad.gif
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    Nov 26, 2010 5:02 AM GMT
    shan37 saidcan mormons even be gay? whats the possiblity? icon_sad.gif
    Openly? No. Closet? Yes. In parks and public restrooms? I plea the filth. icon_wink.gif
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    Nov 26, 2010 5:03 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    shan37 saidcan mormons even be gay? whats the possiblity? icon_sad.gif
    Openly? No. Closet? Yes. In parks and public restrooms? I plea the filth. icon_wink.gif


    LMFAO. i really need to stop falling for damn straight mormons but they are so charming.
  • aiko14

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    Nov 26, 2010 5:06 AM GMT
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    who knows?
  • emyrs

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    Nov 26, 2010 12:08 PM GMT
    [quote][cite]aiko14 said[/cite]hot-mormon-calendar-vl-vertical.jpg

    mormon are sweet guys but has one in a million gay.
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    Nov 26, 2010 12:34 PM GMT
    paulflexes said
    shan37 saidcan mormons even be gay? whats the possiblity? icon_sad.gif
    Openly? No. Closet? Yes. In parks and public restrooms? I plea the filth. icon_wink.gif


    In New York, I think some are openly gay and still active in the church. They don't necessarily jump and down screaming it, but they don't all hide it either. I know at least one gay Mormon who's pretty out to lots of other Mormons in his ward, and I'd be surprised to find that he's the only one.

    Of course, there are tons of gay former Mormons.
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    Nov 26, 2010 1:02 PM GMT
    shan37 saidcan mormons even be gay? whats the possiblity? icon_sad.gif

    You don't say whether he's gay or not, returns your interest or is even aware of it. Before answering the question regarding his being a Mormon, the more fundamental issue may be whether he's just some eye-candy fantasy of yours, his religion being less material than his orientation.

    But on that point, my own experience is that Mormons can indeed be both gay and emotionally well-adjusted. But also that when the effects of their very controlling culture still influence them (for indeed Mormonism functions as a culture that can reach into all aspect of their lives, being much more than just a few hours in a church once a week), the results can be unpleasant for themselves and their gay lovers.

    I've learned to use a "safe sex plus" approach with every man I meet -- I not only assume he's HIV poz, but also a bit mental, too, and take appropriate safeguards against both possibilities. Only when time proves him safe & sane do I drop the safeguards. Doing that makes the issue of his religion, whether Mormon or otherwise, as well as other potentially negative influences such as family, politics & community, less of a concern to me.

    Contradictory though it may seem, assuming every gay man I meet may be emotionally unstable makes me LESS prejudiced regarding his religion, and less afraid of it.

    The Seattle guy who brought me out, my gay mentor, was a former Mormon originally from Oregon. (Seattle seemed to have quite a few of them when I lived there) He was very well-adjusted, friendly & generous, active in the gay community, one of the nicest and most decent guys I ever met.

    On the other hand, an ex-BF of mine took up with a Mormon with disastrous results, directly related to the guy's religion. He suddenly was consumed with guilt over his gay involvement with my ex, made a public confession of his gay sins from the church pulpit to the whole congregation, asking for forgiveness, and named my ex to them, blaming him for his downfall! Someone who's a very prominent non-Mormon member of the community who was himself still closeted.

    Plus, the Mormon went to the YMCA management and charged my ex with having fondled him in the men's naked hot tub, which got my ex's membership suspended while a 2-month-long investigation was conducted. What saved my ex was this guy also falsely charging 5 other prominent straight men with the same thing, whose unanimous testimony denying the charges got the Mormon himself expelled from the Y, and the others all reinstated.

    But it frightened my ex from having anything more to do with Mormon gays. Whereas I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, believing a great many gay men of all backgrounds are a bit unhinged anyway, as I said above. You might take the same prudent approach with this guy in class. Assuming first, of course, that he's really gay, available & interested.
  • CuriousJockAZ

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    Nov 26, 2010 2:58 PM GMT
    I've known many gay Mormon guys and every one of them were 100% quality guys, very well-adjusted, bright, successful, AND hot.
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    Nov 26, 2010 3:13 PM GMT
    Of course they can! I think there is even a website out there dedicated to dating mormon's.
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    Nov 26, 2010 3:23 PM GMT
    As a return missionary, and alumnus of BYU, and someone with a very in-depth understanding of the faith--I can answer this question....YES. Mormons can be gay. (They are typically thrown out of the faith if they are outed as gay.)

    Mormons may (and usually do) have more guilt or baggage because of the Mormon faith's extreme condemnation of gays.

    That said... gay Mormons can also have an extra depth and understanding of the world--because they have received more than their fair share of persecution from their church, families, associates, and Mormon society.

    If you are dating or interested in a Mormon I recommend avoiding slurs towards the faith. (Yes, I know its a messed up religion.) Don't diss on the faith too much... remember the old adage... "I can talk bad about my family---but you can't."

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    Nov 26, 2010 3:27 PM GMT
    I also wanted to comment that probably one in ten mormon guys are gay. One in a million admits it.
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    Nov 26, 2010 3:39 PM GMT
    utahguy said

    If you are dating or interested in a Mormon I recommend avoiding slurs towards the faith. (Yes, I know its a messed up religion.) Don't diss on the faith too much... remember the old adage... "I can talk bad about my family---but you can't."



    Damn it. Kinda too late for that icon_sad.gif
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    Nov 26, 2010 3:41 PM GMT
    Two things:

    Why is it gay mormons and not mormon gays?

    Why do people keep dragging out that old one-in-ten are gay? Seriously just open your damn eyes! There's maybe two scientific papers that get the 10% result and hundreds that end up with 3-5% of the population. Which is way more likely result.


    Sorry, I know that doesn't help the OP. Latter Days was great and very romantic but it was an idealised fantasy written by a ex-mormon, gay man. So... my advise is to figure out how to get over the guy in your class.
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    Nov 26, 2010 3:42 PM GMT
    Don't worry... just avoid the subject next time... remember Hillary and Bill Clinton... I never heard them bring up Monica's name again... and they are still together. (Bad example) LOL
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    Nov 26, 2010 4:07 PM GMT
    My ex is a mormon from Idaho. Very nice guy very handsome.. I thought i had a high sex drive.. It's kind of insane how high gay mormons sex drives are.. At least the ones i've known icon_smile.gif (Only dated one and was in a relationship wih him ;) ) My friends though tell me all the time about their little escapades icon_biggrin.gif
  • Chunner

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    Nov 26, 2010 4:26 PM GMT
    It's hard dating a Mormon because they either have to leave the church or they get excommunicated if they come out as gay.

    My ex got excommunicated while we were dating. One of the saddest things I've ever seen.

    The mormon religion is a crap, in my opinion, but thats not to say that the churches members aren't nice. Though they tend to be one of the most judgmental religious people.
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    Nov 26, 2010 5:57 PM GMT
    Gay folks are in every cult, false belief system in The World.

    The real question is, are you willing to deal with the cult / false belief system and all its grief?
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    Nov 26, 2010 6:02 PM GMT
    Dustin Lance Black who wrote the screenplay for Milk was raised as a Mormon. 'nough said.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dustin_Lance_Black



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    Nov 26, 2010 7:31 PM GMT
    I was raised Mormon. I quit participating in it by the age of 14, because by that time I was big enough physically that I could no longer be forced to by my abusive father. I left home at age 15. Home teachers still visit me though. The ones I have currently are both hotties, but married with kids, so doing anything with them is out of the question.

    But, my theory is that at least 60% of men are homosexual, or have some homosexual tendencies. This is an educated guess, based on the my research and personal life experience, including the huge number of married men who have hit on me. In the right circumstances, most men will confess to some level of homosexuality.

    This issue is merely one of the subjects used by religious zealots in positions of leadership to control their congregations. Threats of hell and damnation can be pretty convincing to those who do not have their own independent sense of spiritual certainty or an adequate sense of self. Most people lack those qualities and are therefore susceptible to the lies and oppression of zealots.

    People tend to fear the here-after because you can see that life is short, and there's no memory of existence prior to birth, which is itself nearly impossible to remember. I think that's the only thing which makes that oppression possible.

    If there were no oppression on homosexuality anywhere in the world, and it were considered fully acceptable, you'd see a great many surprises in who suddenly comes out of the closet and changes teams.

    That's how it should be. We should all know who we are and it should be safe to be who we are.
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    Nov 26, 2010 7:35 PM GMT
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    Nov 26, 2010 7:37 PM GMT
    emyrs said
    mormon are sweet guys but has one in a million ten gay.


    Corrected. icon_wink.gif

    *at least
  • tony_boost

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    Nov 26, 2010 7:39 PM GMT
    the first boy i ever played with was mormon icon_razz.gif
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    Nov 26, 2010 8:08 PM GMT
    aiko14 saidhot-mormon-calendar-vl-vertical.jpg

    who knows?


    HE should come knockin on my door!
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  • vintovka

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    Nov 26, 2010 10:24 PM GMT
    pre_mortem saidTwo things:

    Why is it gay mormons and not mormon gays?

    Why do people keep dragging out that old one-in-ten are gay? Seriously just open your damn eyes! There's maybe two scientific papers that get the 10% result and hundreds that end up with 3-5% of the population. Which is way more likely result.


    Sorry, I know that doesn't help the OP. Latter Days was great and very romantic but it was an idealised fantasy written by a ex-mormon, gay man. So... my advise is to figure out how to get over the guy in your class.




    The 10% figure came from the Kinsey study that relied on hundreds of in depth interviews and was designed to minimize the likelihood that respondents would be uncomfortable talking about their sexual preferences/ experiences. By contrast, large N studies that ask for someone to identify the sexual practices by checking the appropriate box are likely to generate lots of false responses or non-responses, which is very hard to adjust for in statistical analysis. When dealing with a stigmatized behavior I think most social scientists would assume that the respondents willing to admit to the behavior represent a the lower end of the possible range. Social sciences differ in this respect from the "hard" sciences (biology, chemistry, etc.)

    Also, I don't want our disagreement here to interfere with our future marriage, haha. (no really, you are hot)
  • BlackBeltGuy

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    Nov 26, 2010 11:10 PM GMT
    CuriousJockAZ saidI've known many gay Mormon guys and every one of them were 100% quality guys, very well-adjusted, bright, successful, AND hot.


    same here. I even know one that had 3 wives at one point. when his youngest turned 18 and enlisted, he came out. the church told him to leave.
    sad but true. and he NEVER cheated on his wives. good for him.