I hate my neighbors.

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    Nov 27, 2010 4:11 AM GMT
    I just moved to a new apartment building. The apartment is beautiful, I'm about a 3-minute walk from work, walking distance to everywhere in town, and while the rent is pretty high, it's doable. I love everything about my apartment except for the neighbors living directly above me.

    There is either a child, or a handicapped person living above me. At all hours of the day, and most of the night, I hear them run from one side of the apartment to the other, over and over again. From the time between each step, I'm assuming it's a really small person, so I'm guessing a child. Now, I haven't been at work throughout the day, as I don't start until Monday. This is only my 3rd day in the apartment. Every day though I hear this stomping. They run from one side of the apartment to the other. Sometimes they fall. It rattles my hanging lights, so it's not just a little noise to put up with.

    I've tried knocking on the ceiling, to no avail. I doubt they can hear me. If they do, it doesn't seem like they would care, if they let their children run in the house, especially being on the 3rd floor of a building. It hasn't gotten to the point of me going upstairs to tell them to make their little shit stop running in the house yet.

    Now, being as I would assume this is a little kid, you'd also think they would be in bed early. Last night at about 11:30, the little shit was still running around the house. Falling, rolling around, playing Dance Dance Revolution or whatever the fuck they do up there. My hope is that the child is running away from its father, and being abused. Somehow this makes everything okay, because the little fuck is running for a reason, and it's also being given proper rectification for stomping around on the 3rd floor of a building. As much as I dislike children, I really hate it when a child makes it more difficult for me to sleep.

    A few other hopes I have for their family:

    - Child gets curious and starts drinking chemicals from under the sink
    - Child gets abused badly enough to break its legs, disabling it from running ever again
    - Father loses job; family has to move to a more affordable apartment
    - Child gets the flu, and gives me at least a week's worth of peace
    - Flu worsens and child asphyxiates on its own vomit
    - Child slips on snow / ice and falls down stairs due to running
    - Family is here illegally and gets deported

    Chances are I'll just get used to the noise until either they or I leave. I'm the new one here, so they've probably had their little shit running around since it was a wee little shit. Either way, if I ever meet them, I'd love to tell the kid how amazing rat poison tastes.
  • mizu5

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    Nov 27, 2010 4:15 AM GMT
    Oh my someone is maddd.


    We have these neighbours that walk their dog offleash. I live in a fairly... uppermiddle class area where everyone has a stick up their ass. My house backs onto a park and they leave their dog offleash to run back and forth with my dog. My dog is smaller, and get tired out. We have asked them to keep their dog on a leash but they just laugh. Their dog is large, and children play in the park, and it is illegal to have the dog offleash. There is an offleash park not far form my house also. Now the man stands outside my house with hsi dog so out dog barks, around 11. He is psychopathic i think. And he calls me a fag. last time I followed him to find out where he lived he said he'd beat the shit out of me. I can't call the police because i never know when he will be there. He also harasses me at work.

    I just found out he lost his job. Dear lord it's because he has so much free time he does this. I hate neighbours.
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    Nov 27, 2010 4:22 AM GMT
    This is why I refuse to live in another apt building. It's either a ground-level duplex, or a house for me.
    In fact, I'm in the market for buying a house now. Yay! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Nov 27, 2010 4:28 AM GMT
    This morning I helped my mom move out of an apartment that had the same "symptoms" coming from the neighbors above, as you describe.

    At first she imagined that it was a very thin and active military type of person who practices marches at home (yes this is my mom's active imagination) or also a thin highly active dancer.

    Anyway months later it turned out that it was quite a large framed woman, who was using a combo of meth and other substances. She would get up regularly and march through the house at odd hours, but almost at the same time of the night each time.

    It turned out that she would meet the dealer each night at a certain hour, ( I guess these dealers are very accurate), and then she would have her high and after effects of the drug on certain times.

    Anyway, hope this isn't your problem, cause you'll have to end up moving out, unless you want to get involved in that situation.

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    Nov 27, 2010 4:53 AM GMT
    Buy them holiday cookies and mention the running? Maybe they arent aware of the nuisance.

    We read a case from California, I think, where a neighbor hated the kid next door. The kid tore his flower beds up and knocked over his garbage. SO the kid gets cancer, but this isn't enough for the angry neighbor. He pretends to be a cancer specialist and 'treats' the kid. Of course, the kid dies quickly without receiving proper treatment. I think the guy went to prison. Anyhow, don't do that.
  • Webster666

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    Nov 27, 2010 5:08 AM GMT
    I hate noise.

    While I wholeheartedly sympathize with your noise problem, I feel that your anger is misdirected.
    The kid is just doing what a kid does, and what its parents allow it to do.
    The problem is the parents.
    Unfortunately, people who make noise seem to think that it's their Constitutional right to make as much noise as they want, at any time they want.
    As a renter, your easiest solution is to .................... move.
    And, I'm serious.
    Find a place that is, at least, on the top floor of the building.
    Find a place that has a noise clause in the rental agreement.
    Also, newer buildings tend to be built with more sound proofing.

    I live in a building of condominiums, where the problem is slightly easier to rectify.
    There is a noise clause in our HOA agreement.
    At one time, I threatened to take the guy who lived below me, to court if he didn't stop playing his ELECTRIC BASS and ELECTRIC DRUMS.
    We had an alternative dispute resolution meeting, in which he agreed to practice his "music" off the premises.
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    Nov 27, 2010 5:17 AM GMT
    Maybe the person is deaf. I dated a deaf guy. He was very noisy. I wouldnt speak to the tenant. I would report to the landlord that the light is shaking...and leave it for him to investigate.
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    Nov 27, 2010 5:44 AM GMT
    Pyrotech said

    From the time between each step, I'm assuming it's a really small person, so I'm guessing a child.



    Maybe it's a terribly out of tune, little person tap dancer.
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    Nov 27, 2010 6:01 AM GMT
    Heartrobb said
    Pyrotech said

    From the time between each step, I'm assuming it's a really small person, so I'm guessing a child.



    Maybe it's a terribly out of tune, little person tap dancer.




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    Yes, I agree it is the parents that are allowing their little shits to have dance parties, and not the fault of the obnoxious child. If their little shit were to drink bleach, it would be solving multiple problems: no more jumping kid, and no more ability to practice bad parenting.

    I'm going to speak with the landlord this weekend about any other vacancies in the complex, preferably on the 3rd (top) floor. I just signed a year's lease this week, so I can't really just up and move right now. I'll explain why, and hopefully we can come up with a solution.

    Maluminse, if I make them holiday cookies, I'd like to know the recipe that mysterious cancer doctor used in his "treatments"...

    Hopefully this will be the last apartment complex I'll ever have to live in. I'd prefer to buy a house at some point in the not-incredibly-distant future.
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    Nov 27, 2010 6:08 AM GMT
    I'm a renter and I've had my share of bad neighbors. At one place, I was on the 2nd floor of a 3-level building. It was an old building, so it didn't have good sound insulation. Neighbors upstairs would slam door, cabinets, and anything else. Walked with heavy feet. Stayed up late at night too. Downstairs neighbors would blast their music during the day. It was so loud, the floor would vibrate.

    My last apartment was only 2 levels and I was on the 2nd level. But the downstairs neighbor was a college student and she would stay up late at night and play videogames. So like at 1am, I'm trying to sleep. But I hear little beeps and booms from her TV. I've asked her numerous times to use headphones or turn the volume down. Other than that, the apartment was great and the rest of the complex was quiet. Unfortunately, it was a commercial complex and the management company kept raising the rent. Had to find a cheaper place.

    My current apartment is pretty cool. Right across the street from the beach. Unfortunately, an annoying neighbor moved in a couple months after I did. The walls are super thin. And I can hear his cell phone ring all day. And I can hear his TV too. I've asked him to keep the volume down. But either he's a little slow, or he's being a passive aggressive bitch. I'm counting on the latter. Because sometimes he leaves his apartment for the night, with the TV turned on and the volume turned up. He's gay too. Ugh.

    I can't wait till my lease expires. I think I'm gonna take a chance and try the roommate thing for a while. I need to start saving more money and get serious about buying a house.
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    Nov 27, 2010 10:41 AM GMT
    Unfortunately, I do not know the recipe for murderous holiday cookies. I am sure their likely obese child would greedily gobble them up. haha

    Good luck talking to the landlord.
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    Your statue would be nicer though. haha
  • Bunjamon

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    Nov 27, 2010 12:51 PM GMT
    I think before you can hope that the child poisons him or herself accidentally that you should be diplomatic and go up and talk to them. You have absolutely nothing to lose.

    I was woken up at 8:30 on a Saturday morning to the sound of someone grinding a hole through a metal wall. Dealing with crap like this is just part of living near other people. If you can't handle noise at all, you should get a cabin with double-paned windows somewhere.
  • mynyun

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    Nov 27, 2010 1:20 PM GMT

    While I sympathize with your predicament. Your post made me laugh. A LOT.!

    I particularly like:

    - Child gets curious and starts drinking chemicals from under the sink icon_lol.gif
    - Child gets the flu, and gives me at least a week's worth of peace
    - Flu worsens and child asphyxiates on its own vomit
    - Child slips on snow / ice and falls down stairs due to running icon_biggrin.gif

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    Nov 27, 2010 1:40 PM GMT
    For some reason when I got to here "There is either a child, or a handicapped person living above me." I thought of greased up deaf guy from family guy for some reason lmfao
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    Nov 27, 2010 1:51 PM GMT
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  • HndsmKansan

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    Nov 27, 2010 1:59 PM GMT
    Maybe its a Great Dane... or some other large dog.. LOL

    Seriously, this is ridiculous. Don't hit the ceiling (literally or figuratively) over this situation until you have explored your options. Be reasonable, but diligent.. and serious. Find out where the noise is coming from (what apt)
    and you have 2 options:

    1. Contact that tenant and while reasonably friendly, be specific about the problem.

    2. (and I think you need to do this whether you do #1 or not).. contact your
    landlord in person and in writing about the issue, that you feel it interferes with your enjoyment of the premises and that if it doesn't change you will
    want to be moved to a different apartment in the building.


    Don't tun into a bitch about it. It's a serious problem for you. Solve the problem and do it in an adult manner.
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    Nov 27, 2010 2:03 PM GMT
    Pyrotech said

    A few other hopes I have for their family:

    - Child gets curious and starts drinking chemicals from under the sink
    - Child gets abused badly enough to break its legs, disabling it from running ever again
    - Father loses job; family has to move to a more affordable apartment
    - Child gets the flu, and gives me at least a week's worth of peace
    - Flu worsens and child asphyxiates on its own vomit
    - Child slips on snow / ice and falls down stairs due to running
    - Family is here illegally and gets deported

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    Nov 27, 2010 2:09 PM GMT
    Contacting the tenant might not be of much help, or it was in my case. They had a dog and lived directly over me. In winters they would play with their dog in the living room and the guy was heavy. He and his dog running at odd hours. We told them to keep it low esp after 10:00 pm, but that didn't work, we told him to make sure his dog doesn't pee or poo in his patio coz it usually came down to ours. Also his dog shed a lot and our patio was covered in dog hairs. Nothing worked and so we had to make a compliant to the apartment management office. Thats when we got to know someone else has already made a complaint and one more strike and he will be out of the apartment. After he got to know this it got reasonably quiet.
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    Nov 27, 2010 2:10 PM GMT
    I think I would call the landlord and give him 5 days to stop the problem, then if it isn't stopped, send him a registered letter giving him another 5 days to fix the problem and if you get no results "run out the clock" using up your deposits of first and last months rent by not paying him another dime, When he asks about your rent, tell him in your mind, you owe nothing for a place you cannot live in because of the noise. If that doesn't work, to stop the noise, be saving money for a new apartment to move to when the time comes that your deposit and last months rent has "run the clock". I was a landlord for most of my working life and I always took complaints like you have seriously and did something about it, like evicting the offender. If your landlord won't end the problem, then he doesn't deserve more of your money.
  • LJay

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    Nov 27, 2010 2:14 PM GMT
    This sounds like a young child and they do not sit still.

    A polite visit to the neighbors is in order. Maybe you could compromise with an arrangement that the kid plays somewhere other than over your bedroom.

    Your best bet is to go directly to the managment and arrange to move into another location in the complex. You could also read carefully through your lease to see if there is any chance of terminating it because the apartment is unliveable due to the noise.

    In the meantime buy some earplugs and deal with it.
  • LuckyGuyKC

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    Nov 27, 2010 2:20 PM GMT
    Go see or write a note to the neighbor - tell them you need to a peaceful environment and explain the symptons without assuming any causes. Make sure to mention that you know there was no way they could have known what affects were happening in your apartment and you will appreciate any changes they could make to mitigate the rumbling.

    If they get mad then don't engage and get thyself to the landlord on Monday. If they are calm but for whatever reason the response isn't adequate then you also need to go see the landlord. In fact you should probably register your compaint to the landlord now - these problems seem to re occur and you want to be on record that it was going on from the start.

    I have lots of landlord experience and as long as you stick to the facts, don't make assumptions, and are friendly then a good landlord will appreciate the early notice that there is an issue. They can't do anything about it if you don't put them on notice. They will also usually appreciate that you tried to solve the problem internally.

    Also remember that the landlord is going to have this problem with almost any person he rents your unit to so again a good landlord will want to address the problem. BTW - if this happened to me and I wanted to keep both tenants, I might offer to help the two tenants swap apartments with some free labor from my staff.
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    Nov 27, 2010 2:31 PM GMT
    I feel for you man. Seriously, neighbors can be a bitch! I used to have a neighbor woman with two daughters; early every morning, the chick would wake up her kids basically with a cattle call, then proceed by loudly rushing them through the getting ready process by yelling until the kids were both crying... The mother sounded like a bitch! I found out later that she worked with handycapped children; I always wondered if she was as bad with the handycapped kids as she was her own..Good luck.

    I would give it a few days, then go upstaires to introduce myselfand casually mention how you love the building but the walls are "just a little thin." If you don't think they seem to be catching on, ask them if they raise horses.
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    Nov 27, 2010 2:40 PM GMT
    I've never had luck in talking with neighbors...probably because I'm so furious by the time I go talk to them that it escalates. In my old apartment building, my bedroom was above a living room and they would blast their music and rattle my floors. I went and talked to them, came back up, and they had turned up their music. I went back down and banged on the door and we both started yelling at each other. He slammed his door on me and wouldn't open it when I kept banging on it. So, I started playing the Sex Pistols and other bands whenever he'd turn up his music. I would crank the base and eventually he would turn down his music for a while...then turn it up again and I'd start up my music. I called 311 on him several times, too, but by the time I moved out he rarely blasted his music.

    You can break the lease in your apartment building if the living situation is untenable. Realifedad has some good advice.
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    Nov 27, 2010 4:05 PM GMT
    Yuck, sorry to hear that. In my experience the only thing to do is wear earplugs at night, move out, first chance you get, and find a top-floor apartment.
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    Nov 27, 2010 5:49 PM GMT
    Been there, done that. Screaming brats, TVs on 24/7, overweight shitkicker-wearing clog dancers, etc. etc. One group had a TV directly on the opposite side of the wall from my bed. They turned it up all the way and left on vacation for two weeks. The landlords say "call the cops," the cops say "call the landlord." Eventually, there was a day when I just couldn't live in an apartment for even one more night. Just stayed away until I could find a house to rent.

    The one time I tried repeated confrontations with a neighbor family, nothing changed. And then the woman ended up being hired as my boss's AA and had to approve all of my budget requests.

    The big problem is that cheap wood frame construction is not a suitable way to build multi-unit housing. But that's about all there is in the US.

    Anyway, now my neighbors are all about a mile away and out of line-of-sight. About the only times I've ever heard any of them was when they had a live band for a party or something.