Saint Patricks Day Parade (Heterosexuals Only)

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    Mar 17, 2008 2:45 AM GMT
    So tomorrow is the parade here in New York and as always gays are not allowed to march, and Irish Queers will demonstrate. Do you think the media will pay any attention to them? I hope they get word out there and are able to finally reverse this bigoted policy.

    http://www.irishqueers.org/
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    Mar 17, 2008 6:11 AM GMT
    Leprechauns should be banned from Pride Parades then. Just kidding, we shouldn't be so intolerant. Besides, they may share some lucky charms.
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    Mar 17, 2008 7:04 AM GMT
    Actually, I've been hearing about this on the news for years now and nothing has changed so far... but I'm sure the media will be there again this year.

    Of course, there's nothing stopping the GLBT community from organizing their own St. Paddy's Day parade... they could have it in the Village and make it greater and grander than the other one and make sure the media covers it. Eventually, the crowds would dwindle at that one and come to see the real parade in the Village. icon_wink.gif Oh... and just to make sure we're taking the high road, the gay parade should allow them to join us, because we don't want to be intolerant of them like they are of us.

    As for the intolerant ones... "May the bluebird of happiness fly up their collective nose, and the wail of the banshees keep them awake at night."
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    Mar 17, 2008 11:32 AM GMT
    hippie4lyfe saidSo tomorrow is the parade here in New York and as always gays are not allowed to march, and Irish Queers will demonstrate. Do you think the media will pay any attention to them? I hope they get word out there and are able to finally reverse this bigoted policy.

    http://www.irishqueers.org/


    Maybe, if the word "Queer" was not used to describe them, they could take part.

    I'm an Irish gay man. I am not an "Irish Queer"

    Mike
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    Mar 17, 2008 11:35 AM GMT
    What is the big deal if the media doesn't cover the homosexuals?
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    Mar 17, 2008 12:27 PM GMT
    Queer is just another word for gay which is another word they can't tolerate. It has nothing to do with what we call ourselves. It's an irish catholic festival and it's loaded with drunks and priests, much like a gay pride parade.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Mar 17, 2008 12:31 PM GMT
    I don't understand why such a bigoted policy even exists in the case of a parade? Whats the history?
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    Mar 17, 2008 12:33 PM GMT
    The history? Are you trying to start a war between New York and Boston?
  • MikePhilPerez

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    Mar 17, 2008 12:51 PM GMT
    gay

    gay [gay]
    adj (comparative gayer, superlative gayest)
    1. attracted to same sex: relating to sexual attraction or activity among members of the same sex
    2. merry: full of light-heartedness and merriment (dated)
    3. bright in colour: brightly coloured (dated)
    4. carefree: having or showing a carefree spirit (dated)
    5. debauched: leading a debauched or dissolute life (dated)


    n (plural gays)
    gay man or lesbian: somebody, especially a man, who is attracted to other members of the same sex


    [13th century. < Old French gai 'happy']


    -gayness, , n

    Gay is preferred to homosexual. The adjective gay encompasses both men and women, but when there is a need to specify both genders, as in gay and lesbian alliances, gay describes men. Avoid using gay as a noun, as in He's a gay and Four gays walked in, because it can be taken to be offensive. Preferred substitutes are He is gay and Four gay people/men/women walked in.



    queer

    queer [kweer]
    adj (comparative queerer, superlative queerest)
    1. not usual: not usual or expected
    2. eccentric: eccentric or unconventional (informal)
    3. suspicious: arousing suspicion (informal)
    4. nauseous: slightly unwell, especially nauseous or faint (dated)
    5. offensive term: an offensive term meaning gay


    n (plural queers)
    offensive term: an offensive term for a gay man (insult)


    vt (3rd person present singular queers, present participle queering, past and past participle queered) (dated)
    1. thwart something: to spoil or thwart something, especially somebody's plans
    2. compromise somebody: to put somebody in an awkward situation


    [Early 16th century. Probably < Low German quer 'oblique, crooked']


    -queerish, , adj
    -queerly, , adv
    -queerness, , n

    See insult.


    Not just another word to me.

    Mike
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    Mar 17, 2008 1:43 PM GMT
    McGay saidIt's an irish catholic festival and it's loaded with drunks and priests, much like a gay pride parade.


    This is awesome!
    lol

    So the reason they don't want us there is because they don't want us to steal their thunder ha ha ha

    Or their pot of gold AT THE END OF THEIR RAINBOW
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    Mar 17, 2008 1:58 PM GMT
    MikePhil said[quote]

    I'm an Irish gay man. I am not an "Irish Queer"

    Mike


    Queer is an evolving term to encompass several sexual and gender minorities. gays, lesbians, bisexuals, transgender, asexual, intersexual, questioning.

    It was and still is used as a derogatory but like many words, words change. Nerd, dyke, geek examples of words that have changed and can be used as a source of empowerment.

    I proudly identify as a queer man.
  • DiverScience

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    Mar 17, 2008 2:41 PM GMT
    ::shrugs:: I'm orange, not green Irish anyway, so I've never paid much attention to it. The greens are uptight anyway, too much uptight Catholicism. (don't hit me if you're a green irish please, I'm just kidding)
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    Mar 17, 2008 3:10 PM GMT
    MikePhilMaybe, if the word "Queer" was not used to describe them, they could take part.

    I'm an Irish gay man. I am not an "Irish Queer"


    I'm with you on this one. I'm aware that 'queer' is technically acceptable these days but it still irks me. I think its because I heard it used in a derogatory way so much while I was growing up.

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    Mar 17, 2008 3:15 PM GMT
    I like to think of 'Queer' the same way I think of the word 'Nigger'. Bigots can't use it pejoratively if we reclaim it and use it amongst each other positively.

    But the St. Patrick's day parade has little to do with Ireland or Catholicism. It is a great excuse to carry an open container of alcohol on the streets without fear of being arrested.
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    Mar 17, 2008 3:18 PM GMT
    "But the St. Patrick's day parade has little to do with Ireland or Catholicism"

    I disagree. The level of national pride that Irish Americans feel about Ireland (the old country) borders on psychotic and it's sickening to witness. Catholicism? Count the number of Catholic schools sending marching bands.
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    Mar 18, 2008 8:52 PM GMT
    oh yes, McGay. They certainly have elements of Ireland and big mama church, but I don't think it is a celebration of either. It seems more about Irish-American culture than Ireland or a Catholic Saint.
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    Mar 18, 2008 11:24 PM GMT
    Hmmm....I'm in two minds about this

    Saint Patrick's day really shouldn't be turned in gay pride. see this is the kind of thing that makes people accuse us of having a homosexual agenda. If you want to celebrate your Irish heritage March on St Patricks day and you can celebrate your unappreciated love for members of the same sex on gay pride.

    Saying St Patricks day has nothing to do Ireland or catholicism is like saying Christmas has nothing to do with the birth of jesus.

    I saw three people carted away for alcohol poisoning the heroes of st Patricks days they truly were

    And that was before 2.30 in the afternoon icon_lol.gif


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    Mar 19, 2008 2:36 AM GMT
    AMT87 saidHmmm....I'm in two minds about this

    Saint Patrick's day really shouldn't be turned in gay pride. see this is the kind of thing that makes people accuse us of having a homosexual agenda. If you want to celebrate your Irish heritage March on St Patricks day and you can celebrate your unappreciated love for members of the same sex on gay pride.

    Saying St Patricks day has nothing to do Ireland or catholicism is like saying Christmas has nothing to do with the birth of jesus.

    I saw three people carted away for alcohol poisoning the heroes of st Patricks days they truly were

    And that was before 2.30 in the afternoon icon_lol.gif




    Nobody is saying it should be turned into a gay pride parade, we are advocating for queer people to be able to march freely. Example, perhaps Irish Queers, GLBT Irish organization, Gay/Les Catholic groups? Why shouldn't Irish Gay organizations be able to have their banner at the parade>?
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    Mar 19, 2008 2:53 AM GMT
    DiverScience said::shrugs:: I'm orange, not green Irish anyway


    Oh no, an ULSTERMAN!
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    Mar 19, 2008 10:38 PM GMT
    jprichva said[quote][cite]DiverScience said[/cite]::shrugs:: I'm orange, not green Irish anyway


    Oh no, an ULSTERMAN![/quote]

    And we know all the trouble parades cause up there icon_razz.gif
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    Mar 19, 2008 10:54 PM GMT
    MikePhil said[quote][cite]jprichva said[/cite][quote][cite]DiverScience said[/cite]::shrugs:: I'm orange, not green Irish anyway


    Oh no, an ULSTERMAN![/quote]

    And we know all the trouble parades cause up there icon_razz.gif[/quote]

    The trouble Government-funded parades cause icon_confused.gif
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    Mar 19, 2008 11:40 PM GMT
    Ah begora to it all, i only had one drink this paddies day and that was to celebrate 2 things

    1. Getting a Job
    2. My cousin winning the Mc Croy Cup.


    St Paddies Day only what you make of it. some years are great others are shite.

    Sin e