Should Everyone From Westboro Baptist Church be executed?

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    Mar 17, 2008 3:07 AM GMT
    I know everyone has probably read or seen about the Eve Carson case on the news. She was a beautiful girl at UNC-Chapel Hill, our sister school, and was murdered a week ago. She was an activist with a ton of things on campus, including gay/straight alliances, and campus wide tolerance policies for diversity. I had many friends at UNC who knew her well, and so this is especially surreal given it happened 30 minutes away.


    However, Westboro Baptist Church from Topeka, KS, is going to picket her funeral, because they've called her a Fag-loving, nigger-loving defilement of God. Now I don't know about you, but I'd be really open to suggestions about what should become of these picketers who have chosen to offend her family at the worst time of their lives. What would possess people to be so callous and disgusting?


    Your thoughts please.
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    Mar 17, 2008 3:18 AM GMT
    Their protest highlights her good qualities. Let them proclaim them.
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    Mar 17, 2008 5:04 AM GMT
    Theyre absolutely the scum of the Earth, in my opinion. However, they can protest whatever they choose and Id suggest a strong counter-protest to block them from even being seen and heard.

    Eventually someone will go vigil anti on them.
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    Mar 17, 2008 5:11 AM GMT
    Wow, execution is a little over the top, even for me.
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    Mar 17, 2008 5:15 AM GMT
    No. I can't stand them, and wish to never speak of them again, well I can admit a part of me hates them with a passion, but they have the right to organize and relay their freedom of speech. I'm fond of those rights because I use them whenever I feel a universal "good" is being lost to supress a single universal "evil". If this escalates to the point of Americans versus Americans acting like domestic terrorist, than I don't want any part of it, because excuting these people would only martyr them and their cause, and someone going out of their as a gay vigilanty or whatever would only invite similar hatred towards the gay community in general. If anything these sorry bastards should be ignored at all cost, denote any value their speeches and protest may have, and ignore them until they S.T.F.U.! If they do something worse than protest and verbally abuse us in public, maybe attacking us first, than it's on!
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    Mar 17, 2008 5:29 AM GMT
    When it comes to Westboro Baptist Church protesting funerals, I cannot turn the other cheek...

    check this out http://www.break.com/index/westboro_baptist_church_chased_away.html

    You're near Ft. Bragg (home of 82nd Airborn) and Camp Lejeune (Marines)....hasn't WBC protested the funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq?...I bet the 82nd Airborn and the Marines would not take too kindly to the WBC protesting more funerals in their backyard...hmmm
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    Mar 17, 2008 5:39 AM GMT
    They aren't racist, as far as I know, so I don't think the "n*gger loving" thing is something they'd say.

    Anyway though, I think that they about the worst people on earth. They incite hatred, and even though they are non-violent, hate speech is where it starts. But in all of this, if I don't want free speech for my enemies, then I don't want free speech at all.

    (First post since I've been back! I missed you all!)
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    Mar 17, 2008 6:21 AM GMT
    I've been following this closely in the news as I'm originally from the area and Chapel Hill is one of my favorite places. It also seems that one of the suspects they arrested is also being charged in the murder of a young woman from Duke University that happened a little while back... at least, that's what I heard on Nancy Grace tonight.

    Anyway, about the Westboro crowd... I know how this feels. They picketed at my partner's funeral 11 years ago, and I will never forgive them for that. Unfortunately, they have the same right to Freedom of Speech and Freedom to Assemble as everyone else. Those are great freedoms to have, even though they bite you in the ass from time to time.

    One very good way to avoid this would be to keep the date, time and location of her funeral out of the media, which will be difficult considering how the local news down there likes to not only publicize those details but also covers the actual funerals in high-profile cases like this. I know a few guys that are stationed at Ft. Bragg, but they're deployed right now... and I'm not really sure if they could even get involved. If, however, the local media has not yet gotten word of this impending protest, I think they should. I don't think many people in my home state would appreciate those assholes doing this.
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    Mar 17, 2008 6:58 AM GMT
    sterilization could do wonders icon_lol.gif
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    Mar 17, 2008 7:38 AM GMT
    It's such an extraordinary situation. I watched a doco on the WBC with Louis Theroux, and they were fascinating - full of genuine love and amazing family values for themselves, and so much hatred for everyone else.

    In Australia, the right to free speech is limited by other peoples' right to peace. If that loss of total freedom of speech prevents groups like the WBC from behaving like they do, it's a loss I'm more than willing to endure.

    The best thing you can do is demonstrate your superior humanity by living honest, open, compassionate lives. The WBC is its own worst enemy, and if there turns out to be a god, she'll kick their arses when they get to the Pearly Gates (or equivalent).
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    Mar 17, 2008 7:46 AM GMT
    WOW. That's horrible. They shouldn't be allowed anywhere near her funereal. The WBC are just bad news and seem to only be interested in promoting hate. What kind of church does that?
  • HndsmKansan

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    Mar 17, 2008 9:08 AM GMT
    Well let me say first that I hate it that you mentioned the are from Topeka (KS)... maybe the fact that you said KN..maybe some would think they were from Kentucky, but I doubt it and I wouldn't want to put it on Kentucky...

    The people are mentally ill, their possessed. They shouldn't be executed (that idea is proposterous and what would it say about our society?). They have rights (totally abused of course). I think whats being done (with state laws restricting access at funerals)
    is probably about the best that can be done, unless one of these disturbed participants does something where they can be arrested on some other grounds.

    They are examples of what happens when you become unbalanced in life. I think its really sad.
  • irishkcguy

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    Mar 17, 2008 9:34 AM GMT
    Free speech is not 100% free. I can't yell fire in a crowded theater or say or print things about people that aren't true. With free speech comes responsibility. With that in mind, I really think the WBC should not be allowed near these funerals. Their speech is hate, their intent is to bully and abuse people who are mourning. There are legitimate limits placed on free speech and forcing them to be far enough away from the funeral so they can't be seen or heard by the mourners is a good place to start.

    As a Christian I find these people particularly odious. These are not followers Christ. They completely ignore the teachings of Jesus who, by the way, taught us to comfort people who mourn rather than picket their funerals and increase their pain. Jesus said pretty explicitly that people who hate and don't love are not of God. He also taught us to love as we love ourselves and to treat people as we would want them to treat us.
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    Mar 17, 2008 10:21 AM GMT
    A few thoughts:

    Personally i think the WBC are fantastic for the gay community. Any reasonable person listening to them for more than a few minutes automatically becomes a little more pro gay. People do not, for the most part, want to be associated with such hideous, hate filled views and they naturally move away from them.

    I think that WBC should be able to say what they want as long as they are not advocating actual physical harm against a person or group.

    I don't like that they hate us but i do not think we want any legislation trying to control how people live their lives if they are not harming others in the way they live.

    Finally, for what little it is worth, i don't hate the WBC, i feel sorry for many of them and am concerned for their children but i don't hate them. Hate is their bag.
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    Mar 17, 2008 5:52 PM GMT
    Sorry but advocating violence against these idiots only brings us to their level. In fact for the most part they are best ignored by us.

    I do agree with irishkcguy in that the picketing of funerals should not be allowed by law. This is not free speech, this is an abuse of free speech. They can say anything they want to the media and picket as much as they like but they should not be allowed to disrupt a funeral. That's just wrong on so many levels.

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    Mar 17, 2008 8:04 PM GMT
    killing them would only make martyrs of them and win them followers teetering towards sanity.

    i advocate using LGBT dollars to buy them promotional time on national networks so that as many people as possible can see them as much as possible and finally understand why homophobia SUCKS.
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    Mar 17, 2008 8:23 PM GMT
    Let's all picket the WBC weddings! The more they breed, the worse off humanity is.
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    Mar 17, 2008 8:24 PM GMT
    No.

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    Mar 17, 2008 8:36 PM GMT
    No, let them shoot their mouths off and look ridiculous. They do not seem to be mentally all there and virtually nobody in the USA including the fundamentalist Christian churches supports them.
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    Mar 17, 2008 8:44 PM GMT
    Are these the same people who do snake chants and stuff? Do people really pay attention to them. They were protesting Iraqi soldier's funerals as well -- that certainly didn't win them much popularity.
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    Mar 17, 2008 8:56 PM GMT
    I dont know why people havent blockaded them in yet!

    I know lets form a Fairy circle around them they wouldnt dare cross that
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    Mar 17, 2008 9:02 PM GMT
    Well, I think they raise the interesting ethical/moral/philosophical question of what are the limits of tolerance? It's a bit surreal, I must admit, to read/hear gay people defending them when they (WBC) pretty much encourage violence againt us.

    As far as executing them, well...that's a bit much for the Jackal. Still, if there's a Hell you can rest assured a nice place will be waiting for them.

    (I know this is bitchy but the Church is actually in Topeka, Kansas not Topeka, KN. Ciao!)
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    Mar 18, 2008 3:01 AM GMT
    How about the college students getting together to go to her funeral in "MASS" (hundreds or over a thousand) and stand between those church fanatics, and the family/procession at all times during the ceremony, if that church groups starts yelling something profane, sing some favorite songs of the girl who died. Drowned out the church groups words, so their presence is nullified. BUT DO IT PEACEABLY !!!
  • SkyMiles

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    Mar 18, 2008 3:26 AM GMT
    You can't take the high road EVERY time, now. Personally, I think a car going at a high rate of speed through those a-hole redneck picketers would go a long way towards making this world a better place.

    Not an 'enlightened' point of view to be sure, but I'm sick to death of this crap.
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    Mar 18, 2008 3:31 AM GMT
    Well actually colbert_nation, I'm filled with the same inclination to wipe them out, but its not practical nor legal. But it would feel good to end their idiocy, I'll grant you that !!!!