Same-Sex Partner of Missouri Cop Killed on Duty Gets No Survivor Benefits

  • metta

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    Dec 03, 2010 3:15 AM GMT
    Same-Sex Partner of Missouri Cop Killed on Duty Gets No Survivor Benefits

    http://gayrights.change.org/blog/view/same-sex_partner_of_missouri_cop_killed_on_duty_gets_no_survivor_benefits



  • mybud

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    Dec 03, 2010 4:33 AM GMT
    Ya saw this on our local new here in Kansas city.....It also pisses me off that I pay into Social security and my future partner wont be able to choose my benefit payment even though straight couples have that perk.....
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    Dec 03, 2010 4:55 AM GMT
    jprichva saidDisgusting but not surprising,

    I want to hear from our cadre of right-wingers again about how gay issues just aren't all that high a priority.


    While sad, the scope of this is much smaller than the economy as a whole.
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    Dec 03, 2010 5:00 AM GMT
    FearTheFall said
    jprichva saidDisgusting but not surprising,

    I want to hear from our cadre of right-wingers again about how gay issues just aren't all that high a priority.


    While sad, the scope of this is much smaller than the economy as a whole.
    Until its you..
  • metta

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    Dec 03, 2010 5:02 AM GMT
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    Dec 03, 2010 5:03 AM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    FearTheFall said
    jprichva saidDisgusting but not surprising,

    I want to hear from our cadre of right-wingers again about how gay issues just aren't all that high a priority.


    While sad, the scope of this is much smaller than the economy as a whole.
    Until its you..
    +1
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    Dec 03, 2010 5:07 AM GMT
    TropicalMark said
    FearTheFall said
    jprichva saidDisgusting but not surprising,

    I want to hear from our cadre of right-wingers again about how gay issues just aren't all that high a priority.


    While sad, the scope of this is much smaller than the economy as a whole.
    Until its you..


    I'm just saying, we have MUCH bigger things to worry about that will affect MANY more people.
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    Dec 03, 2010 5:08 AM GMT
    FearTheFall said
    TropicalMark said
    FearTheFall said
    jprichva saidDisgusting but not surprising,

    I want to hear from our cadre of right-wingers again about how gay issues just aren't all that high a priority.


    While sad, the scope of this is much smaller than the economy as a whole.
    Until its you..


    I'm just saying, we have MUCH bigger things to worry about that will affect MANY more people.
    EVERY person is as important as 'the many'..
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    Dec 03, 2010 5:11 AM GMT
    paulflexes said
    TropicalMark said
    FearTheFall said
    jprichva saidDisgusting but not surprising,

    I want to hear from our cadre of right-wingers again about how gay issues just aren't all that high a priority.


    While sad, the scope of this is much smaller than the economy as a whole.
    Until its you..
    +1


    +2

    and it is extremely disgusting in my opinion....
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    Dec 03, 2010 5:18 AM GMT
    RYAN1000 said
    paulflexes said
    TropicalMark said
    FearTheFall said
    jprichva saidDisgusting but not surprising,

    I want to hear from our cadre of right-wingers again about how gay issues just aren't all that high a priority.


    While sad, the scope of this is much smaller than the economy as a whole.
    Until its you..
    +1


    +2

    and it is extremely disgusting in my opinion....

    +3
  • Sk8Tex

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    Dec 03, 2010 5:27 AM GMT
    FearTheFall said
    TropicalMark said
    FearTheFall said
    jprichva saidDisgusting but not surprising,

    I want to hear from our cadre of right-wingers again about how gay issues just aren't all that high a priority.


    While sad, the scope of this is much smaller than the economy as a whole.
    Until its you..


    I'm just saying, we have MUCH bigger things to worry about that will affect MANY more people.


    How does this not effect just about every gay couple out there that loses a partner to death?
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    Dec 03, 2010 5:33 AM GMT
    FearTheFall said
    jprichva saidDisgusting but not surprising,

    I want to hear from our cadre of right-wingers again about how gay issues just aren't all that high a priority.

    While sad, the scope of this is much smaller than the economy as a whole.

    Certainly not as small as your own heart, or your brain.

    Please explain how correcting this social injustice is a threat to the economy, and why evidently YOUR pockets are made fuller by continuing this discriminatory policy. Your attitude is vile & selfish -- in other words, the mark of a loyal Republican.

    I'm gonna remember your words, and quote them whenever some discrimination comes to light that may affect you or others personally, gay-related or not:

    "While sad, the scope of this is much smaller than the economy as a whole."
  • Webster666

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    Dec 03, 2010 6:27 AM GMT
    This puts a real live face on the many hundreds of benefits that straight married couples take for granted.

    Ask the poor bereaved partner of the dead cop if the national economy is more important than his sad situation !
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    Dec 03, 2010 6:43 AM GMT
    The traditional American philosophy teaches that The Majority must be strictly limited in power, and in the operation of government, for the protection of The Individual's God-given, unalienable rights proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence and, therefore, of the rights of The Minority--of all minorities.

    “That the desires of the majority of the people are often for injustice and inhumanity against the minority, is demonstrated by every page of the history of the whole world”
    John Adams quotes

    To those saying this isn't as important as an issue, as issues with the "majority".
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    Dec 03, 2010 6:47 AM GMT
    FearTheFall said
    jprichva saidDisgusting but not surprising,

    I want to hear from our cadre of right-wingers again about how gay issues just aren't all that high a priority.


    While sad, the scope of this is much smaller than the economy as a whole.


    I agree, and I'm a pure homosexual; the real thing. Gay issues still only evolve a minority, yet the economy involves most adults. Thats why I vote for the better of my country first, and my personal wants last. So one is able to put others before myself too; unlike some.
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    Dec 03, 2010 6:53 AM GMT
    Well you know if people want to live under a minority rule, they have choices, they can move if they don't want to live in a democratic country, they can move to China, or even Cuba, that just across the road from the US, if they want minority to rule; so if you don't like it...........
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    Dec 03, 2010 7:20 AM GMT
    They should skull fuck the legislators in Missouri for making this gay cops life miserable.
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    Dec 03, 2010 7:51 AM GMT
    I'm not saying this isn't an issue. I'm just saying it's not an issue that should be at the forefront in terms of legislation right now because lawmakers need to spend their time fixing the economy and unemployment instead of arguing about Leviticus, Romans, and 1 Corinthians and their application to modern sexual relationships.
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    Dec 03, 2010 8:02 AM GMT
    This sad case is why everyone needs to make sure the beneficiary on all of their policies are their significant other if that's who they want and have a current will.

    The federal benefits for officers being killed in the line of duty are all being adjusted where they will go to a non-married gay partner but everything has to be current and in line for that to happen.

    Even without marriage there have been many strides over the last couple of years in this area.

    It is unfortunate that his partner had to go through this, but this isn't an isolated case. And it isn't limited to gay police officers, everyone needs to make sure their ex isn't listed on any policy as a beneficiary, or the policy will go to them.
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    Dec 03, 2010 8:24 AM GMT
    That sucks. My Dad was killed in law enforcement and my family benefited from survivor benefits. I can't imagine being in this situation where my family wouldn't have gotten them because my parents, adoptive parents or whatever were in a same sex relationship.

    Its bull crap, I feel for this family.
  • metta

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    Dec 03, 2010 8:31 AM GMT
    FearTheFall saidI'm not saying this isn't an issue. I'm just saying it's not an issue that should be at the forefront in terms of legislation right now because lawmakers need to spend their time fixing the economy and unemployment instead of arguing about Leviticus, Romans, and 1 Corinthians and their application to modern sexual relationships.


    We understand what you are staying. I don't think that you understand what many others are saying here. Minority rights will never be in the forefront with the way you think. The rights and fair treatment of the minority will never become a reality with your thinking. There will always be bigger things to do.

    Should it really take that much effort and time to protect the rights of the minority? Can we not work on large problems and issues regarding protecting minorities at the same time? It is a big government with many people to work on many issues. If we are to truly believe in the fundamental civil rights of the individual, they must be protected and not be ignored just because there are 'bigger issues.' It is the only way for a humane and just society to behave.
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    Dec 03, 2010 8:35 AM GMT
    metta8 said
    FearTheFall saidI'm not saying this isn't an issue. I'm just saying it's not an issue that should be at the forefront in terms of legislation right now because lawmakers need to spend their time fixing the economy and unemployment instead of arguing about Leviticus, Romans, and 1 Corinthians and their application to modern sexual relationships.


    We understand what you are staying. I don't think that you understand what many others are saying here. Minority rights will never be in the forefront with the way you think. The rights and fair treatment of the minority will never become a reality with your thinking. There will always be bigger things to do.

    Should it really take that much effort and time to protect the rights of the minority? Can we not work on large problems and issues regarding protecting minorities at the same time? It is a big government with many people to work on many issues.


    Yes, but minority issues shouldn't be prioritized over something of the magnitude of our current economic crisis. Once society has become more tolerant of gays (which is on us, btw), the laws should change naturally. DADT will not be around in 5 years because very few support it.
  • metta

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    Dec 03, 2010 8:39 AM GMT
    ^
    I have never seen GLBT issues take precedence over working on our economic problems. I have seen the government work on both issues, but I have not seen the government ignore the economy to take care of GLBT issues. Where have you seen us do this?
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    Dec 03, 2010 8:41 AM GMT
    metta8 said^
    I have never seen GLBT issues take precedence over working on our economic problems. I have seen the government work on both issues, but I have not seen the government ignore the economy to take care of GLBT issues. Where have you seen us do this?


    I haven't in legislature, but the fervor with which people on here focus solely on gay issues seems to suggest many do consider issues regarding ~5% of the population to be more important than the economy which affects ~99%.
  • metta

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    Dec 03, 2010 8:45 AM GMT
    Personally, I'm glad that people have a passion for caring about the fair treatment people. I will take that over apathy any day. I celebrate it! icon_smile.gif