Envisioning a Future "War on Homophobia"

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    Dec 03, 2010 1:43 PM GMT
    If society and/or infrastructure collapse (which we had a glimpse of during the Northeast Blackout of 2003 and Hurricane Katrina of 2005), what will be the fate of the LGBT community? What will you do?
    If homophobia gets violent, I think so will the resistance. Kristallnacht will meet Stonewall. We will be forced to fight for survival and self-defense. Our allies may help us defend ourselves with necessary violence. We all could and should be brave, strong, and protective. It will be a testament of what we are willing to do for each other.

    Imagining this scenario gives me colorful thoughts. I wonder what will the femmes, transvestites, and drag queens do.
    I've seen a Thai drag queen shoot a party of other Thai drag queens in one Thai action movie.
    A plausible fictional film concerning this hypothetical what-if scenario may be inspired by scenes from The Pianist (2002). The Jews during the Holocaust rose against Nazi occupation.
    Ironically, Hitler had an interpersonal relationship with an openly gay fat Nazi named Ernst Rohm.

    A homophobic neo-Nazi group protests the annual local gay pride event in Springfield, Missouri. If they get violent, and the police couldn't stop them from rioting and vandalizing, what would you do?
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    Dec 03, 2010 5:51 PM GMT
    God I sure hate to think of things coming to this !!!, but if it did, sign me up for the behind the seens groups who go around "taking care of business". We would 'know nothing, see nothing, hear nothing, and repeat nothing' but we would be very effective. We would be everyday people just blending in while "taking care of business". This comes from living in the south where some of the back of the holler folks take care of things on their own, Make no threats, no declarations, no braggs, "just take care of business"
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    Dec 03, 2010 6:40 PM GMT
    We can start by not electing people like Sally Kern (R-OK) to office time and again:
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    Dec 04, 2010 5:28 AM GMT
    If infrastructure collapse, most those group would vanish, they are looking for attention only media can provide.

    And don't count me in, as much as I am able to stand my own, I will never let collective hysteria fuel hidden desire for violence under the guise of a right cause.

    Judge, jury and executors at the same time, never in history did this lead to something positive.

    It's when things are getting dirty that you can judge how strong you moral value are.

    Armed mob against armed mob means to be ready to kill someone because he could, potentially kill you if you don't do it first. and the other group think exactly the same. Go fix that once it's started.

    Killing someone because he 'could' do something just rely on what you perceive as a treat. Why not also, in that collapse scenario of course, kill the kids already indoctrinated before they become strong enough to kill you ? Why not kill a guy that someone think he spoke with someone that has a relative who is nazy, out of better safe than sorry ?

    I already have no trust at all in governments ethics when they raise war, how would I follow self appointed vigilants ;-)
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    Dec 04, 2010 5:30 AM GMT
    Afterthough...

    There is a huge difference between being ready to died for what you think right, and willing to kill for what you think right.
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    Dec 04, 2010 5:32 PM GMT
    sxydrkhair saidWe get those crazy Nazis here in Phoenix too. They are all over the places in the United States. I am surprised they still exist in America!


    Yeah, scary. I heard most of the neo-Nazis live in Russia.
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    Dec 04, 2010 6:08 PM GMT
    Dont ever underestimate the will and the determination of a pissed off drag queen...............................
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    Dec 04, 2010 6:12 PM GMT
    I don't think that will happen,
    there will always be people who will be against it, and always people who will fight for it.
    now even more as in the earlier years.

    and if i was in missouri and they would be rioting, I don't know what I would do, I am not someone who will start a fight or participates in one, but a cat in danger will make crazy jumps ( a saying here, meaning that everything might happen when in 'danger' )
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    Dec 04, 2010 7:53 PM GMT
    TropicalMark saidDont ever underestimate the will and the determination of a pissed off drag queen...............................



    best believe those D. queens aren't afraid to get their fireceeeeee on:

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    Dec 04, 2010 8:10 PM GMT
    minox saidIf infrastructure collapse, most those group would vanish, they are looking for attention only media can provide.

    And don't count me in, as much as I am able to stand my own, I will never let collective hysteria fuel hidden desire for violence under the guise of a right cause.

    Judge, jury and executors at the same time, never in history did this lead to something positive.

    It's when things are getting dirty that you can judge how strong you moral value are.

    Armed mob against armed mob means to be ready to kill someone because he could, potentially kill you if you don't do it first. and the other group think exactly the same. Go fix that once it's started.

    Killing someone because he 'could' do something just rely on what you perceive as a treat. Why not also, in that collapse scenario of course, kill the kids already indoctrinated before they become strong enough to kill you ? Why not kill a guy that someone think he spoke with someone that has a relative who is nazy, out of better safe than sorry ?

    I already have no trust at all in governments ethics when they raise war, how would I follow self appointed vigilants ;-)


    I think that's a different hypothetical. If the US does collapses there will be indeed very many violent militias running around everywhere, and neo-Nazis and Klansmen will be among the largest.

    It's one thing to escalate things with a questionably violent group by attacking them, but it's another to organize and resist people you know will come to kill you.
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    Dec 05, 2010 4:47 PM GMT
    sxydrkhair said
    serioushat said
    sxydrkhair saidWe get those crazy Nazis here in Phoenix too. They are all over the places in the United States. I am surprised they still exist in America!


    Yeah, scary. I heard most of the neo-Nazis live in Russia.


    Yeah scary. I can't imagine if there are gay neo-Nazis. I'll freak out...


    Keep looking around RJ.
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    Dec 05, 2010 7:41 PM GMT
    sxydrkhair said
    OtterJoq said
    sxydrkhair said
    serioushat said
    sxydrkhair saidWe get those crazy Nazis here in Phoenix too. They are all over the places in the United States. I am surprised they still exist in America!


    Yeah, scary. I heard most of the neo-Nazis live in Russia.


    Yeah scary. I can't imagine if there are gay neo-Nazis. I'll freak out...


    Keep looking around RJ.


    Like who?


    Yeah...Like I'm going to answer that one! icon_lol.gificon_lol.gificon_lol.gif

    I don't think I need to spell it out.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Dec 05, 2010 7:53 PM GMT
    Yes us gays are going to have to fight back in a fierce manner that will make these neo-Nazis, religious fundamentalists and all other ignorant red necks think twice before fucking with us with violent, anti gay acts. Enough of being nicey-nicey, that is a disastrous failure. That just fuels more anger and violence from the extreme right and reinforces the false stereotypes of gay men as sissies, wimps, and weaklings. We gays are real men just like the straights. It is time for us to prove it. No more mr.nice guys.