Track and field

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    Dec 04, 2010 5:11 AM GMT
    I know that, in Europe, track and field is mostly popular during Olympic games, and less than that in US, yes, I'm disappointed there is no track and field section in the sport category forum.

    Any body with track experience other than high school one and long distance run ?

    I'll start :

    Pole vault : just below 18 feet
    triple jump : 51 feet
    long jump : 23.3 feet
    high jump : 7 feet
  • ja89

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    Dec 04, 2010 11:57 AM GMT
    minox saidI know that, in Europe, track and field is mostly popular during Olympic games, and less than that in US, yes, I'm disappointed there is no track and field section in the sport category forum.

    Any body with track experience other than high school one and long distance run ?

    I'll start :

    Pole vault : just below 18 feet
    triple jump : 51 feet
    long jump : 23.3 feet
    high jump : 7 feet


    Yeah I know it sucks. Track definitely doesn't get the respect it deserves. Sooo much hrd work is put in just to compete in your event 1 time. Sometimes twice depending on the meet

    I ran:
    400~ 47.8
    400 hurdles~ 53.5
    110 hurdles~14.7
    When we did our mid season test 300~ 34.3
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    Dec 04, 2010 12:22 PM GMT
    Would a factor be that track & field consists of events that require the proper facilities and support personnel? One can run alone and in many different places, but for instance pole vaulting shouldn't be done alone, and requires the pole, bar and pit, and people to assist. And the top athletes work with coaches, who provide skilled analysis and advice on technique, something you can't do for yourself as effectively.

    Whereas many other team & solo sports can be done with a lot more flexibility. It may not be to World Cup standards, but a bunch of guys can play soccer on their own, or American football, baseball or basketball, and I've even seen kids get together for outdoor ice hockey games in the northern US snowbelt.

    But track & field is a much more "formal" sports activity, if you will, and perhaps its lack of spontaneity and inability to conduct ad hoc is the cause for what you're observing in terms of its "respect" (or interest) in a fitness web site.
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    Dec 04, 2010 1:07 PM GMT
    And when we do see it on tv, the commentators have to explain the event and give a biography of the athletes they're showing.

    I ran high school and college cross country/track, but distance events. Did the high jump and long jump briefly in high school:

    1600 - 4:20
    800 - 1:59
    5k -15:28
    8k - 25:28
    HJ - 5-04
    LJ - 18-03

    Currently coach high school xc/track.
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    Dec 04, 2010 1:22 PM GMT

    XCountry
    Pole Vault
    3200
    1600
    800
    400 x 4

    You guys have good memories. I don't remember times. High school is a little blurry for me.
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    Dec 04, 2010 1:32 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidWould a factor be that track & field consists of events that require the proper facilities and support personnel? One can run alone and in many different places, but for instance pole vaulting shouldn't be done alone, and requires the pole, bar and pit, and people to assist. And the top athletes work with coaches, who provide skilled analysis and advice on technique, something you can't do for yourself as effectively.

    Whereas many other team & solo sports can be done with a lot more flexibility. It may not be to World Cup standards, but a bunch of guys can play soccer on their own, or American football, baseball or basketball, and I've even seen kids get together for outdoor ice hockey games in the northern US snowbelt.

    But track & field is a much more "formal" sports activity, if you will, and perhaps its lack of spontaneity and inability to conduct ad hoc is the cause for what you're observing in terms of its "respect" (or interest) in a fitness web site.


    The equipment issue is for a few events in track and field such pole vault and throwing events. And just like all of the other sports you lisd have to buy some kind of gear. When I was younger we used lawn chairs as hurdles and raced all day long. Everyone races when they're children so I can't see how your point of how there's not any fexibility in regards to the sport. Plus people run on the track all of the time who have no previous history in track and field.

    Also, when I get into debates about the sport compared to other sports, respect is always an issue in peoples eyes. They think because we do what most people can but faster, there isn't much to the sport. Put yourself through that mental anguish before during and after a race OH and don't forget that physical part of it. Trust me you run an indoor 400 race, you're literally fighting people while running until you get to the finish line. The sport is plenty spontaneous, even when I'm not racing, I get jitters before the start gun goes off. I scream at the tv for my favorite runners all of the time as well as all of my family and close friends (who I might mention have no background in track). Even my little 3 year old brother calls me Usain, because he's been to a couple of my track meets.

    Yeah the sport doesn't get the respect it deserves and once more people get out there and actually run rather than bounce as they walk and call it running then they can see a whole new light towards the sport. Just to sum it up in this last little sentence a friend told me when he found out I ran. 'My sports pain is your sports pleasure' he was the first football player I ever got along with.
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    Dec 04, 2010 1:51 PM GMT
    Thank guys, I feel a bit less lonely.

    ja89, love the way you spoke about it. And respect for 400H, it take courage (often had to do it for inter club competition (58s), we had no specialists and all others where to scared to fall down)

    You forgot to mention how painful 400m can be, the last one hundred meters when the track start to rise, and you feel the burn of lactic acid up to your forearms.
    Or the joy of lactic training for 400m runner, when you end vomiting on the side of track ;-)

    We train hard all years long targeting one or two major events during the year, and you can bruise and ankle or tore a muscle just the day before the main event. Or worse, just make a little mistake, and it's over. You need to wait one year again, just to get a new chance.

    It's very humbling, but also addictive, to invest so much time and effort when it's so easy to fail at the end.

    I was addicted to competition, it fueled me to train harder.

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    Dec 04, 2010 1:55 PM GMT
    Athleticpunk79 said
    XCountry
    Pole Vault
    3200
    1600
    800
    400 x 4

    You guys have good memories. I don't remember times. High school is a little blurry for me.


    Good pole vault body, hot ;)
  • ja89

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    Dec 04, 2010 2:11 PM GMT
    minox saidThank guys, I feel a bit less lonely.

    ja89, love the way you spoke about it. And respect for 400H, it take courage (often had to do it for inter club competition (58s), we had no specialists and all others where to scared to fall down)

    You forgot to mention how painful 400m can be, the last one hundred meters when the track start to rise, and you feel the burn of lactic acid up to your forearms.
    Or the joy of lactic training for 400m runner, when you end vomiting on the side of track ;-)

    We train hard all years long targeting one or two major events during the year, and you can bruise and ankle or tore a muscle just the day before the main event. Or worse, just make a little mistake, and it's over. You need to wait one year again, just to get a new chance.

    It's very humbling, but also addictive, to invest so much time and effort when it's so easy to fail at the end.

    I was addicted to competition, it fueled me to train harder.



    I sooo know what you mean by the addiction to racing. It's not something you get over easily lol. And that 400 is a bitch to run, no matter how fast you go, you still feel that wall hitting when you round out that last curve.
    Also, I love vaulter bodies. They (as well as decathletes) have some of the sexiests bodies in the sport in my opinon.
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    Dec 04, 2010 2:25 PM GMT
    I believe it was the zoologist Desmond Morris ("The Naked Ape") who observed that almost all human sports have a basis in prehistorical hunting skills, the ability to pursue and kill prey.

    Hence our games involve mostly running, throwing, catching and aiming tasks. When I see a soccer game I imagine a group of hunters chasing some small animal, instead of a ball. Later games we invented, and have adopted for the modern world from ancient Greece plus some newer innovations of our own, are based on military skills: humans hunting other humans.

    Even pole vaulting, that we referenced above, was based on a Greek military technique for crossing obstacles like moats & ramparts, that the ancients then made into a competitive sport.

    Relevant to this thread, I continue to lean toward the view I expressed earlier above, that track & field in the US fails to generate interest online here because it's a staged sport, rather than being spontaneous and something we can all do with little equipment or outside assistance. Plus it lacks the fast-paced game action that Americans seems to prefer.

    That does not diminish the dedication and hard work of the athletes who pursue these sports, nor the value of doing such activities. It's merely my proposal to the question posed by the OP.
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    Dec 04, 2010 2:35 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidI believe it was the zoologist Desmond Morris ("The Naked Ape") who observed that almost all human sports have a basis in prehistorical hunting skills, the ability to pursue and kill prey.

    Hence our games involve mostly running, throwing, catching and aiming tasks. When I see a soccer game I imagine a group of hunters chasing some small animal, instead of a ball. Later games we invented, and have adopted for the modern world from ancient Greece plus some newer innovations of our own, are based on military skills: humans hunting other humans.

    Even pole vaulting, that we referenced above, was based on a Greek military technique for crossing obstacles like moats & ramparts, that the ancients then made into a competitive sport.

    Relevant to this thread, I continue to lean toward the view I expressed earlier above, that track & field in the US fails to generate interest online here because it's a staged sport, rather than being spontaneous and something we can all do with little equipment or outside assistance. Plus it lacks the fast-paced game action that Americans seems to prefer.

    That does not diminish the dedication and hard work of the athletes who pursue these sports, nor the value of doing such activities. It's merely my proposal to the question posed by the OP.


    You should consider it was also, for a very long time, a pure amateur sport.
    Us culture tend to respect You when you make a lot of money out of what you do, and look down at you if you work hard for nothing (except for charities of course).
    Then, when track became pro sport, it didn't had a large enough support base to attract media, and sponsors.

    I don't mind that lack of money in track. I was active during the transition from pure money free to big business, but as I grew up in that moneyless spirit, it still stick to me (idealism etc...), and I felt weird when I was earning something in meetings.
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    Dec 04, 2010 5:34 PM GMT
    Love, love athletics

    Every year I attend most of what is now known as the Diamond League events and the World Championships. Haven't done the Olympics as yet- but plan to attend the London one.

    I ran track in my younger days. Best times:

    100M 10:79
    200M 21:3

    I sucked at 400M: never managed under 51. Hated running this!

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    Dec 04, 2010 5:39 PM GMT
    track is where its at icon_razz.gif

    110mh 14.27
    60mh 8.06

    and those times are still droppin'
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    Dec 04, 2010 5:57 PM GMT
    i ran the 400 and the 800 for about 6 years. it was gnarly (basically a love hate relationship). i can't really remember my best 400 time but 800 i got 2:08 once and i felt like a badass.

    what is the typical vaulter body? i don't remember our pole vaulters being particularly hot..
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    Dec 04, 2010 10:59 PM GMT
    PotatoPotato saidi ran the 400 and the 800 for about 6 years. it was gnarly (basically a love hate relationship). i can't really remember my best 400 time but 800 i got 2:08 once and i felt like a badass.

    what is the typical vaulter body? i don't remember our pole vaulters being particularly hot..


    Jean Galfione, French Olympic champion in 1992
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    JG16.jpg

    Romain Mesnil, another french pole vaulter, lost his sponsors and decide to find a new one by making it very visible nobody wanted to clothe him (true story)
    Romain-Mesnil.jpg
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    Dec 04, 2010 11:01 PM GMT
    track_boi saidtrack is where its at icon_razz.gif

    110mh 14.27
    60mh 8.06

    and those times are still droppin'


    Go for it, you need to break that 14s limits
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    Dec 06, 2010 9:37 PM GMT
    It is sad to find out there is no male track & field team on campus, but female one. My friends told me it is because of 'equal gender' stuff. Because college male football team costs a lot, school has to have equal number of female on other sports, that's track & field~!
    100m 10.8..s
    200m 22.7..s
    400m 52....s
    4*100
    4*400

    That's far away from me now. lol
    last 100 of 400 is definitely the painful one, which sometimes makes me feel scare to have good start. Because I am thinking of saving energy for the last 100, but always useless~ icon_cool.gif
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    Dec 07, 2010 12:39 AM GMT
    oyoung saidIt is sad to find out there is no male track & field team on campus, but female one. My friends told me it is because of 'equal gender' stuff. Because college male football team costs a lot, school has to have equal number of female on other sports, that's track & field~!
    100m 10.8..s
    200m 22.7..s
    400m 52....s
    4*100
    4*400

    That's far away from me now. lol
    last 100 of 400 is definitely the painful one, which sometimes makes me feel scare to have good start. Because I am thinking of saving energy for the last 100, but always useless~ icon_cool.gif



    Yes, difficult. The faster you run, the shorter the painful part at the end, but if you start too fast, your reach that point where you suddenly can barely keep moving, and the suffering is a lot longer ;-)

    400 is definitely for guy not afraid to endure pain, a lot of potentially great 400 runner never took it, just because they found the training to hard and the event too painful.

    Respect ;-)
  • jofo

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    Dec 07, 2010 12:42 AM GMT
    I did track when I was younger (like 14 years old)

    triple jump - 12.80m
    Long jump - 5.7m
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    Dec 07, 2010 12:54 AM GMT
    peachschnapps saidI did track when I was younger (like 14 years old)

    triple jump - 12.80m
    Long jump - 5.7m


    Congrat, at 14yo, it was quite good performances
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    Dec 07, 2010 1:09 AM GMT
    Track and Field was always my favorite sport, really wish i would have continued into college, but oh well icon_razz.gif

    110m hurdles- 15.5
    300m hurdles- 41.0
    60m hurdles- 8.1
    HJ- 6'0"
    4x100m