Getting fired..

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    Dec 06, 2010 1:23 AM GMT
    Long story short: Toxic work environment, the place is collapsing upon itself, my boss is under investigation from corporate, and somehow through all this mess I got the ax because of immaturity that ran rampant in the place.

    It was my first job out of college and it was a living hell for 5 months.

    My boss handed me a piece of paper that boiled down to "you're fired" and then walked into the next room. I smiled, it was a huge weight off my shoulders.

    I'm very optimistic and can't wait to get back out there, I'm young and have my entire life ahead of me. Looking to move to Austin (an hour from where I'm at) and start over, even looking to switch career just to live there.

    Couldn't find a topic like this, so I started one for people to share their stories, or tidbits of advice for anyone who may be going through this.
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    Dec 06, 2010 1:37 AM GMT
    Welcome to the 21st century workplace!

    I've been layed off or "fired" so many times that I've lost count. Layoffs are nothing personal, it's just business. Make sure you get a "package" on the way out. Even if one is not offered, ask for one. You just might get something out of it.

    My friends call me "The Package King", as I've walked away with big bags of money so many times.

    The reality is that there is no such thing as "job security". The only security that we have is our ability to create and deliver value NOW. Not tomorrow, not what we did yesterday. It's what we can create NOW.

    Congratulations! Use this opportunity to move yourself forward!

    Aloha and Be Well!
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    Dec 06, 2010 1:43 AM GMT
    I was fired from a job many years ago. Boss was a total dickhead. It was my first real job since college, and I gained most of my work experience from that place. I had been there for almost 5 years, and it was kinda hard to brush it off and not include it on my resume. So I cringed every time I had to fill out a job application that asked if I had ever been fired from a job. And I honestly believe that I missed out some job opportunities because of it.

    So my general advice that I like to give out to people: If you work in a shitty work environment and your boss is an ass, don't wait to get fired or get laid off. Start looking for a new job immediately. Because getting fired can make your future job hunting more difficult. Plus, it's easier to find a new job while you're employed. Because apparently, companies don't like to hire people that are unemployed. icon_rolleyes.gif

    In your case, you've only been there 5 months. So I think you can easily omit that work experience from your resume and start fresh. Good luck in Austin. icon_cool.gif
  • jgymnast733

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    Dec 06, 2010 1:57 AM GMT
    Sure i'v had jobs i'v been fired from in the past and i'm so very thankful they let me go,,Because i wouldnt be in the position i am now if they didnt....THANKSicon_exclaim.gif
    Its all a learning process, it only gets better.....play it smart....
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    Dec 06, 2010 2:57 AM GMT
    Ive been fired from a job I really should have left, I was just holding on to it for no reason other than loyalty to some of the people I worked with... the company management was nowhere near as loyal as we and underpaid us severly.. trying to make it, I would do extra jobs and hours, only to find myself overworked, when I went to the doctor complaining of burnout, they shafted me... and I was VERY happy indeed
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    Dec 06, 2010 4:26 AM GMT
    I got fired from a job after my bosses wife got upset that he was spending more time with the staff than with his 2 sons, which both had issues. I was one of 3 in a row that were fired. I applied for another job and my application was deep six'd by a recruiter because I had been fired. Another recruiter recalled my app, looked for it, found it in the back of some drawer, hired me and 27 1/2 years later, I'm looking at retirement light at the end of the tunnel and it's not looking bad icon_smile.gif
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    Dec 06, 2010 4:29 AM GMT
    Nowadays you have to look at being fired like getting a speeding ticket. Sooner or later it's going to happen.
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    Dec 06, 2010 4:36 AM GMT
    I got fired (scapegoated) because the bitch wanted to save face from HER mistakes. Later learned that the mistakes caught up with her. Sweet justice.
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    Dec 06, 2010 4:39 AM GMT
    This happened to me last Monday. I had been with my job for a year. They told me they were laying me off, and that I could have the rest of the day off. I went to an interview in another department at the same company. I start tomorrow. Will I stay for another year? Probably not.

    I took the lay-off as a realization that I wasn't doing what I was supposed to be doing career-wise.
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    Dec 06, 2010 4:48 AM GMT
    Did you get fired or laid off? If fired, go to HR and understand the situation thoroughly. Unusally, there are warning and corrective plans put place before firing.

    Firing is serious because other companies will ask if you have ever been fired. And this will put you at a disadvantage.
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    Dec 06, 2010 5:26 AM GMT
    Caslon16000 saidFiring is serious because other companies will ask if you have ever been fired. And this will put you at a disadvantage.
    It also depends on how you handle the question.
    Personally, I'd rather be fired than quit because it shows more loyalty.
    However, this advice ONLY works if you can prove that you were fired for reasons other than tardiness, absence, inability to get along with coworkers, or poor work ethic.
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    Dec 06, 2010 5:39 AM GMT
    Caslon16000 saidDid you get fired or laid off? If fired, go to HR and understand the situation thoroughly. Unusally, there are warning and corrective plans put place before firing.

    Firing is serious because other companies will ask if you have ever been fired. And this will put you at a disadvantage.


    It was fired. I saw it coming, luckily I had time to prepare and put my feelers out.

    My field I work in is very tight knit, the place is known as a cemetery for careers, everyone knew but I didn't see it because I was just happy to have a job straight out of college.

    Thankfully performance in my field isn't based up upon just paper. Your resume is essentially 5 minutes of videotape.
  • Webster666

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    Dec 06, 2010 6:00 AM GMT
    I loved the work and I loved my customers, but I absolutely hated the management. And, the irony was that I produced more for the company than almost anybody else. When they pushed me out, I fought every way I knew how to get back to work, there. But, I was completely unsuccessful. It took me quite awhile to realize what a blessing it was to never have to put up with those mean, rotten people, again.

    Very often, being kicked out can be a good thing. It forces you to make a positive change and move to a better place: the place you're supposed to be.

    Good luck to you. You have a good attitude.
  • Latenight30

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    Dec 06, 2010 12:21 PM GMT
    The packages are referred to the golden good bye. The CFO from Home Depot a few years back got 42,000,000.00 to keep his mouth shut and go home. That is in big corporate America. I'd love for someone to pay me to go home. It's like being a hooker.
    It's unfortunate that bosses and owners can't see how we just want to help them and get a check at the end of the week. That is all. Good Luck
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    Dec 06, 2010 12:34 PM GMT
    There was mention of fired or laid-off. If you were fired... it can be a huge disadvantage in this economy. But to be laid-off doesn't have the stigma attached to it and it can be easier to find a new job.

    If you were "fired" and it was unjustly, I would certainly take note to the HR department. There has to be some record of poor work habits or a legitimate issue in which to be fired. If there was nothing... that sets them up for a legal battle in which it could be worth fighting. Attorney's love to fight against unfair business practices. And if the department was as toxic as you claim, you and your lawyer can claim "Hostile Working Environment" which can lead to serious repercussions on your previous supervisor. That usually assists in clearing up toxic work environments.
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    Dec 06, 2010 12:50 PM GMT
    Never been fired, but with my first job that lasted three years from junior high, I was given a choice, so I said that with my University studies more important I said farewell and never looked back.

    Plus the new boss after several nice bosses was a douche.icon_lol.gif
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    Dec 06, 2010 12:55 PM GMT
    Buckeye988 saidIt was my first job out of college and it was a living hell for 5 months.

    Was there a probationary period, and for how long? If probation was 6 months or longer, then you can be released without cause or explanation at 5 months. Indeed, it may account for the timing of this.

    But that's not the same as being fired for cause, which as others note above, is the least desirable way to go, in terms of future employment. You need to find out what actually was done to you, and possibly challenge it internally, and if necessary, externally. Even if you don't get your job back, changing the terms of your dismissal could be important.

    Being laid-off is better, which can be blamed on economic causes out of your control, the criteria for lay-off being your lack of seniority, a blameless situation. Failure to attain permanent status from probation doesn't look especially good, but since it's often done without cause, a future employer could interpret it as also being due to the economy, not to your performance.
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    Dec 06, 2010 12:56 PM GMT
    My company has had so many "purges" over the 13 years I have been here, and our financial viability is as precarious as it was the day I started. There have been many times I wished I had been among the laid off, as they tend to get pretty lucrative packages. But, I am fortunate that I have a job, especially in this economy, and the available job pool in my line of work is ever shrinking. So, I stick it out, hope for the best, and prepare for the worst every time we announce sub-par financial results.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Dec 06, 2010 1:32 PM GMT
    Excellent attitude! Glad to hear you are out of the environment.. way too many people feel they have to accept their circumstances. Sounds like you are fortunate that you have taken the initiative to move forward with your life and the guts to move to make it happen. Congrats, I hope all works out for you. Please keep us informed on your progress!

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    Dec 06, 2010 1:37 PM GMT
    GAMRican saidMy friends call me "The Package King", as I've walked away with big bags of money so many times.


    Hey, I bet that's not the only reason they call you that, hehe! icon_lol.gif
  • toybrian

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    Dec 06, 2010 2:19 PM GMT
    Buckeye, just got the ax here also and after 3 yrs of hell working for this company I feel the same...like a weight came off my back...never in that time did i ever feel like I belonged there or felt welcome..worked in Warehouse and people tried to make me feel bad but thatnk god fro radios and ablilty to drown people out...good luck also to you in quest for new work..
  • LJay

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    Dec 06, 2010 3:07 PM GMT
    Dumped last April after more than 20 years in the same outfit. Living on umemployment, occasional side jobs and part time. No fun.

    If you are in a toxic environment, find a way to get out. The difficulty is that most jobs these days are insecure and toxic. If you have a job, the best thing to do is to live like a pauper and save like hell for the rainy day.

    If you are looking for a job these days, be prepared to diversify in every way possible. The economic recovery is making eployers absolutley greedy to find their idea of perfection. It is a rough market, even for the young and optimistic.

    Finally, consider that work is not everything. Decide where you stand on issues of whther you work ro live or live to work and take a long range stance for your own good and goals.
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    Dec 06, 2010 3:20 PM GMT
    You've got a great attitude that willl land you another job fast and will also make your life a lot more happy.
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    Dec 06, 2010 3:21 PM GMT
    My first job while in high school my boss said, "that we are a dime a dozen". Loyalty is a concept from medieval times. The loyalty should be to the self only. One should always be looking to retool one self and think of any job as training for the next. The one thing I've learned is that we are all replaceable no matter how critical we become to a process.

    Don't take it personally, and always be prepared for new opportunities.
  • rnch

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    Dec 06, 2010 3:24 PM GMT
    i've spent 24 years in a job that i was strongly pressured to take, a job that i viewed as "temporary until i can find something better". this job has nothing to do with my college background or my preferences; it was simply "there".

    i suspect there are more than a few "lost souls" who are civil service time sufferers.

    at this point in my "career" (yeh rite!) i'm just treading water, counting down the 37 months until i take early retirement and tell 'em all to kiss my hairy ass.

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