GAY = SIN

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    Dec 06, 2010 9:49 PM GMT
    I think I will let Matt tell his story!

    GAY = SIN from Matthew Brown on Vimeo.

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    Dec 07, 2010 12:06 AM GMT
    Here is his recent re-edit. Don't read into the title. And be sure to watch the entire video. Its a very powerful and meaningful message.

    GAY=SIN (re-edit) from Matthew Brown on Vimeo.

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    Dec 07, 2010 2:35 AM GMT
    I myself do not see being a homosexual as being a sin, but many homosexuals and bisexuals are guilty of many wicked and sinful things.

    I know I have talked about this before and I will continue to talk about it until I can not talk no-more as it should not be forgotten with time.

    At the beginning of my 20's I was forced to the city dew to drought to get work, as the work on the farm had dried up.

    I was to get a job in my cities biggest, newest, and most fashionable bathhouses. I was to be pro active in helping the advancement of homosexuality in my state, as homosexuality was still a crime, and classed as a mental health issue, I was proactive in helping turning that around, that was the direction of my life, as the generations before me had done squat. I stood stead fast to a community I had started to love.

    But then AIDS come along and the whole thing turned upside down, I was to witness first had the evil wicked actions of many during this time, carelessly infecting one another not giving a rats arse about another human life, so long as their dick did not miss out on the party, and they still got fresh young meat, that they where also to infect.

    I being a lad off the land, at the beginning of my 20s, with big shoulders, chest and calves to die for, and it was all natural as I was yet to ever step foot in a gym. Was very popular, so I have survived all these years latter to still be HIV-. I have survived other homosexuals, pure and none pure, try to infect I, too pass on this stigma and slow humiliating death at that time. So I should talk about it.

    But it was the combination, of all the wicked evil things I seen come to pass by many members of the gay community, and what they also selfishly, and evern tryed to do to me, was to lead one to hand back my gay member ship, and walk away from a community I stood by steadfast, while many fleed home to hid under the bed, or behind mummys dress, until they felt it was safe to come out and play again.

    So no I do not feel homosexuality is a sin, but many are guilty of really sinful act's by taking another's life; albeit it happend slowly.
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    Dec 07, 2010 2:42 AM GMT
    If you are a Christian, you'll understand that sin, in essence, is something that separates you from God. I also classify sin as being disobedient to God, especially in the context of the NEW and ONLY commandment which is to love the God with your very being and love your neighbor(s) as yourself.

    The more I look at it and think about it, we really aren't that different from the heteros except for our sexual attractions and a few biological traits. icon_smile.gif
  • barriehomeboy

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    Dec 07, 2010 2:42 AM GMT
    It's just what you're attracted to sexually, gay, str8 or bi. You're born with it. Get over it!
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    Dec 07, 2010 3:39 AM GMT
    Did you watch the video from beginning to end? Because it seems as if a few have missed the point. As I said... don't look at the title and assume you know about the message. The guy who created the video is a brilliant GAY filmmaker.
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    Dec 07, 2010 3:47 AM GMT
    NoCityGuy saidDid you watch the video from beginning to end? Because it seems as if a few have missed the point. As I said... don't look at the title and assume you know about the message. The guy who created the video is a brilliant GAY filmmaker.
    I assure you, Pattison did not watch the video. He was merely here to rant about shitty people we'll never know. I hope he gets over his bitterness.
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    Dec 07, 2010 3:52 AM GMT
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    NoCityGuy saidDid you watch the video from beginning to end? Because it seems as if a few have missed the point. As I said... don't look at the title and assume you know about the message. The guy who created the video is a brilliant GAY filmmaker.
    I assure you, Pattison did not watch the video. He was merely here to rant about shitty people we'll never know. I hope he gets over his bitterness.


    There is no bitterness, as I'm a survivoricon_razz.gif And all one did was talk about gay history and there is a very dark side to it, and the fact God does not hate fags. In fact I have thrived out in the real world out on my ow, as a pure homosexual in the straight community.

    Now little Miss Sunshine, you are the one with daddy issues that you need to deal with.icon_idea.gif

    The fact that your main profile piture is a really old one of you now, and I'm sure you don't have that look anymore, makes one ponder you have not let go of the past.
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    Dec 07, 2010 4:06 AM GMT
    How God must hang his head in shame and weep at all the wrong done in his name. No gay does not = sin, yet many gays are not free of sin either; there is a diffrence.

    And most children will just grow up to be ordinary people too.
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    Dec 07, 2010 4:09 AM GMT
    True_blue_aussie saidHow God must hang his head in shame and weep at all the wrong done in his name.


    OHH see...... now he views it. icon_neutral.gif

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    Dec 07, 2010 4:15 AM GMT
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    True_blue_aussie saidHow God must hang his head in shame and weep at all the wrong done in his name.


    OHH see...... now he views it. icon_neutral.gif

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    Now thats only because it's the way you want to see it. Christians are not perfect, nor is the gay community free of sin either! Religion can never be perfect, as it's run by man, and man is not perfect either, and that includes I. But I'm no where near as bad as others either.

    OMG and how many time has one said that already in other posts; oh how I love to play with the wolves.

    But still I stand by my first post too!!!!!!!

    But there was elements of truth all the way though that clip. I just did not see and hear the end, but I'm sure thats all many will hear, as it's all they want to hear. How man can have ears, yet remain def, how man can have sight, yet be blind too.icon_twisted.gif
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    Dec 07, 2010 4:30 AM GMT
    Thanks for posting, and especially the last scene, of all men (different heights, sizes, race, shapes, etc.) coming together in frame 4:18 so beautifully captured, reminds me what I studied yesterday in my devotion.

    Just one simple point in James 2: verses: 8-10 in the New Testament of the Sin of Partiality, comes really together with this film and I want to share, and hope nobody gets offended for that is not my intention. James teaches us in a parable of the distinction of treating others differently – in this case the story of a rich man and a poor man coming into an assembly room, and how would you judge these individuals in helping them be seated in the assembly room - but is not the rich versus poor of what he wants to address in his point, but how we judge others because of the differences and what we see outwardly thinking one group, individual is better than other. He stresses that we shall ‘love your neighbor as yourself’,’ But if you show partiality, you are committing sin’…in this same sense this filmed touched me, because by one group insisting that gay is sinful, they have not understood the really meaning of ‘love your neighbor as yourself’ and what ultimately the message of Love is.
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    Dec 07, 2010 4:39 AM GMT
    uombroca saidThanks for posting, and especially the last scene, of all men (different heights, sizes, race, shapes, etc.) coming together in frame 4:18 so beautifully captured, reminds me what I studied yesterday in my devotion.

    Just one simple point in James 2: verses: 8-10 in the New Testament of the Sin of Partiality, comes really together with this film and I want to share, and hope nobody gets offended for that is not my intention. James teaches us in a parable of the distinction of treating others differently – in this case the story of a rich man and a poor man coming into an assembly room, and how would you judge these individuals in helping them be seated in the assembly room - but is not the rich versus poor of what he wants to address in his point, but how we judge others because of the differences and what we see outwardly thinking one group, individual is better than other. He stresses that we shall ‘love your neighbor as yourself’,’ But if you show partiality, you are committing sin’…in this same sense this filmed touched me, because by one group insisting that gay is sinful, they have not understood the really meaning of ‘love your neighbor as yourself’ and what ultimately the message of Love is.


    Amen.
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    Dec 07, 2010 4:39 AM GMT
    True_blue_aussie said How man can have ears, yet remain def, how man can have sight, yet be blind too.


    Patti, you've been on here too long this afternoon. Call the ward nurse and have her take you back to your room, give you your meds and let you rest a bit.
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    Dec 07, 2010 4:44 AM GMT
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    True_blue_aussie said How man can have ears, yet remain def, how man can have sight, yet be blind too.


    Patti, you've been on here too long this afternoon. Call the ward nurse and have her take you back to your room, give you your meds and let you rest a bit.


    The wolves are coming out to play now. Heartlessrobb, I give the meds, I don't take em, sorry. As well one does the incharge too!icon_lol.gificon_cool.gif
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    Dec 07, 2010 4:56 AM GMT
    "Pure and none pure?"

    Holy Christ.
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    Dec 07, 2010 4:59 AM GMT
    OtterJoq said"Pure and none pure?"

    Holy Christ.


    Then you have pure hell too. A place where you will find both Christans and gays, pure and none pureicon_wink.gif
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    Dec 07, 2010 5:00 AM GMT
    uombroca saidThanks for posting, and especially the last scene, of all men (different heights, sizes, race, shapes, etc.) coming together in frame 4:18 so beautifully captured, reminds me what I studied yesterday in my devotion.

    Just one simple point in James 2: verses: 8-10 in the New Testament of the Sin of Partiality, comes really together with this film and I want to share, and hope nobody gets offended for that is not my intention. James teaches us in a parable of the distinction of treating others differently – in this case the story of a rich man and a poor man coming into an assembly room, and how would you judge these individuals in helping them be seated in the assembly room - but is not the rich versus poor of what he wants to address in his point, but how we judge others because of the differences and what we see outwardly thinking one group, individual is better than other. He stresses that we shall ‘love your neighbor as yourself’,’ But if you show partiality, you are committing sin’…in this same sense this filmed touched me, because by one group insisting that gay is sinful, they have not understood the really meaning of ‘love your neighbor as yourself’ and what ultimately the message of Love is.


    This one wins
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    Dec 07, 2010 5:02 AM GMT
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    HeartRobb said
    True_blue_aussie said How man can have ears, yet remain def, how man can have sight, yet be blind too.


    Patti, you've been on here too long this afternoon. Call the ward nurse and have her take you back to your room, give you your meds and let you rest a bit.


    The wolves are coming out to play now. Heartlessrobb, I give the meds, I don't take em, sorry. As well one does the incharge too!icon_lol.gificon_cool.gif


    Yeah right. You're the one in charge, not one of the patients. Just keep telling yourself that, Patti.
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    Dec 07, 2010 1:40 PM GMT
    Wow... this thread went in the totally opposite direction than I anticipated. But at least it started a conversation.
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    Dec 07, 2010 1:56 PM GMT
    I hear the voice of Sally Kern! My representative from Fight 84th!
    Very interesting video.
    For the record, I voted against her this election, but she still won.
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    Dec 07, 2010 2:03 PM GMT
    Try being a bi Muslim....Am i this way because of temptation.... I admit that there have been times when I've thrown out sensibilities for lust but in the end it leaves me cold and miserable....My goal is to be a good in this life, pay my dues and live comfortably happy in the next life.
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    Dec 07, 2010 3:54 PM GMT
    True_blue_aussie said
    OtterJoq said"Pure and none pure?"

    Holy Christ.


    Then you have pure hell too. A place where you will find both Christans and gays, pure and none pureicon_wink.gif


    Is it possible you intended to type "NON pure" instead of "NONE pure?"

    And again...would you PLEASE stop mangling the language. What did it ever do to you?
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    Dec 07, 2010 6:24 PM GMT
    OtterJoq said
    True_blue_aussie said
    OtterJoq said"Pure and none pure?"

    Holy Christ.


    Then you have pure hell too. A place where you will find both Christans and gays, pure and none pureicon_wink.gif


    Is it possible you intended to type "NON pure" instead of "NONE pure?"

    And again...would you PLEASE stop mangling the language. What did it ever do to you?


    NON or NONE, it is still incorrect except in aunty_jack English. It is either 'impure' or 'not pure'.
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    Dec 07, 2010 10:30 PM GMT
    True_blue_aussie said Heartlessrobb,



    Am I suppose to be offended by that? Thanks, Patti. Love it enough that I think I'm going to start using it.