Why are people Racist to East indian and middle eastrien,Why do people act like its ok.

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    Mar 18, 2008 8:02 AM GMT
    I mean I was on youtube, and was looking up techno, And I found some Middle eastren techno. I have herd it before its amazing, But I was wrong It was "white" people dance with fake burkas, and Turbins. and such making fun of them and sterio typing them...Omg I was astonished. My family has syrian and indian in them. I took offence to it..but not only in that way. In the fact that I just took offence to the fact This is still around. Just because There WAS a war, and We are fighting people of arabic decent Dose not mean It is OK to make fun of them. Like I keeped watching and one guy in the corner dancing with a knife and His made up head rap...LIKE OMFG! COMMON! I read the caption and it said This is another of my mother typical whine partys, Please dont take offence to it. HOW CAN WE NOT! just because you say "don't take offence to it." Does not make it OK. There is so much Else I want to say...YOU SAY IT WITH ME...How many levels is this SO wrong!.


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    Mar 18, 2008 9:11 AM GMT
    Unfortunately there are a lot of ignorant and narrow minded people out there. Try to ignore them and focus on the good things in life (family, friends, etc.).
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    Mar 18, 2008 10:25 AM GMT
    Lenne...racism is everywhere and we all have to deal with it at some point (some more than others)...i understand your frustration and i dont blame your but its like talking to a wall...alot of people do think its "harmless" and the racists of the world arent bound to change their opinion bases on our feelings, social ettiquite, morality, or whatever... so i choose to laugh it off and hope that divine justice still exists.

    That being said, and being East Indian...some of the jokes r just plain retarded...it you're going to make fun of me, then at least get the region right u dumbasses...i already know how low your IQ is, no use emphasizing the point with more brain farts!! I just shake my head, feel sorry for the ignoramous and move on.
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    Mar 18, 2008 10:41 AM GMT
    Hi Lenne

    I agree with the above posters. Try not to let it get to you.

    I think it's human nature to make fun of people who are different from yourself, whether they be different colour, sexuality, size, political beliefs etc. Though this doesn't make it right.

    Things like rascism should be challenged though, so well done for bringing up the topic and hopefully anyone reading your thoughts might think about how some people find this sort of humour offensive.

    Cheers

    LOz
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    Mar 18, 2008 11:45 AM GMT
    I don't consider myself racist at all and as a professional I treat everyone and anyone.

    Last December my boyfriend and I were in the Canary Islands. Alone the beach were many shops with some nice stuff. Now I am no fool, I like a bargin.

    I have a buyers rule, if the item is not priced with a ticket, walk away. Many of the shop owners are Indian but extremely pushy salespeople. Some of them follow you out of the shop to see what other shop you are going into and yell crazy things to you. One evening a shop owner laughed at us as we were walking buy cause he new that he had screwed us the day before.

    So the rest of my money while in the Canaries went to non-indians cause I had just had enough of them for one week.

    I know that all races have good and bad and I accept that. This is not to be offensive!
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    Mar 18, 2008 12:34 PM GMT
    There are no lack of ignorant people in the world. Right now it is people from the Middle East who are on the hit list to be teased. During WWII and just after it would have been the Japanese. In the 19th century the Irish were unpopular in the US. There always seems to be someone that people who do not have great self-esteem think "I am better then this person" and heap scorn on them.
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    Mar 18, 2008 1:40 PM GMT
    This is not an issue of race at all. It's an issue of culture.
    Western liberal culture created the most advanced civilization on earth. One of the characteristics of that culture is that we make fun of each other. This develops a "thick skin" so that we can discuss ideas and share opinions and improve on our collective situation, usually without killing one another.
    Blasphemy codifies acceptance of the status quo and stifles new ideas. This keeps the culture that follows
    such practices mired and stagnant. So, making fun of a culture isn't all bad. It's like a mirror. Lighten up.



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    Mar 18, 2008 1:49 PM GMT
    I understand where you are coming from. I'm half Mexican and American, grew up in a small town of mostly hispanics who made fun of my whiteness, and than moved to Tucson where whites made fun of hispanicity. Not being prone to racism and prejudice myself, I brushed off their comments and ignored them; which only made them madder, but shut them up in the long run. But that was a real life, person to person comflict and it worked for me.

    I know that there are a lot of ignorant people out there would like nothing more than to belittle a group of people they don't understand, and make a joke out of their plight; however, there are some other who also try to make wars, death and politics more paletable by making it comical, so that people could easily understand single aspects of the culture.

    But regardless of the motivations of those dorks, you've got be able to hold onto your self worth, heritage and still have a sense of humour; because I know Mexicans make fun of other Mexicans, Americans make fun of everybody, and I'm hoping that the people in the middle east and asia also make fun of themselves. Being able to laugh at yourself is very important in this modern world. I know, cause I used to be too serious for my own good once. Just make sure you know the difference between whose laughing at you, and whose laughing with you.
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    Mar 18, 2008 2:29 PM GMT
    Lenne, I'm short, Puerto Rican, Gay and I grew up in Brooklyn NY! Believe me I know what it's like to be the brunt of a joke and to feel the sting of the ignorant few who believe you are truly less than them.

    The truth is we all (especially on this site) have experienced some form of prejudice either politely veiled in a joke or directly hurled as an attack. You are not alone. This is one of those things that you have to accept as a part of life and understand it has a place in forming you as an individual. I have in my time helped people around me to move away from being mean spirited but you can't change the whole world and unfortunately this is everywhere.

    What you can do is use it to help you grow as an individual and accept others who are different. This means all kinds of differences even when it's something you don't understand. I really feel I'm a much better person because I've experienced what it's like and refuse to be mean spirited to others.

    Most of all, learn to laugh at yourself. You can't take everything so seriously. I'm sure you have laughed at jokes in your time that have centered around someone else's difference. I know I have and I've even been known to tell some really good short, Puerto Rican and Gay jokes! icon_smile.gif

    Peace.





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    Mar 18, 2008 2:35 PM GMT
    Im middle eastern (form lebanon),and i dont take offense to such things....

    people have in their nature to make fun of others unlike them even if they dont mean anything bad against them, its normal. How many times have u imitated the british? or talked in broken english for fun?

    Everyone i know treats me really good and no on has ever offended me, i dont see a point to get angry over that video
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    Mar 18, 2008 4:33 PM GMT
    rksportswear saidI don't consider myself racist at all and as a professional I treat everyone and anyone.

    Last December my boyfriend and I were in the Canary Islands. Alone the beach were many shops with some nice stuff. Now I am no fool, I like a bargin.

    I have a buyers rule, if the item is not priced with a ticket, walk away. Many of the shop owners are Indian but extremely pushy salespeople. Some of them follow you out of the shop to see what other shop you are going into and yell crazy things to you. One evening a shop owner laughed at us as we were walking buy cause he new that he had screwed us the day before.

    So the rest of my money while in the Canaries went to non-indians cause I had just had enough of them for one week.

    I know that all races have good and bad and I accept that. This is not to be offensive!




    sounds like another "indians are scammers, but no offence though!"
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    Mar 18, 2008 8:18 PM GMT
    Sorry, but I am just telling you what happened.

    I live in the Province of Quebec and the French Business people are very jelous of one another, they would not help thier brother.

    It takes all kinds to make a world.

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    Mar 18, 2008 8:31 PM GMT
    rksportswear saidI don't consider myself racist at all and as a professional I treat everyone and anyone.

    Last December my boyfriend and I were in the Canary Islands. Alone the beach were many shops with some nice stuff. Now I am no fool, I like a bargin.

    I have a buyers rule, if the item is not priced with a ticket, walk away. Many of the shop owners are Indian but extremely pushy salespeople. Some of them follow you out of the shop to see what other shop you are going into and yell crazy things to you. One evening a shop owner laughed at us as we were walking buy cause he new that he had screwed us the day before.

    So the rest of my money while in the Canaries went to non-indians cause I had just had enough of them for one week.

    I know that all races have good and bad and I accept that. This is not to be offensive!


    In some cultures (not the U.S., of course) barganing is customary and expected. It's a different cultural attitude when it comes to commerce and you were uncomfortable with it because of your Canadian upbringing.
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    Mar 19, 2008 12:10 PM GMT
    well thanks yall...means alot
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    Mar 22, 2008 7:11 AM GMT
    This world just needs a little more...



    (All the above are Arab Muslims.)
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    No need to get offended or take such things so seriously. If it's any consolation, the guy was probably under the influence considering it was a "wine party" (one hosted by his mom icon_neutral.gif ). Lighten up, if you can't laugh with them, laugh at them. As humans we make jokes of ourselves and others all the time. We won't change for the better if we can't take criticism or challenge and insist on political correctness, that reflects insecurity.

    And if it is stereotypes that bother you, just break them. I always love showing the people I know that on the other side of the spectrum there are many of us who are "normal", educated and cultured, wear regular clothing, love to sing and dance, never get worked up over a teddy bear,

    and can even make drama over a game of basketball:



    (The above video reflects why there will never be peace in the middle east.)
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    Mar 22, 2008 7:55 PM GMT
    PhxAriz08 saidWe have been through bloody hell after 911.

    Here are some famous Arab-American
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    so many lebanese on here icon_biggrin.gif yeay!
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    Mar 24, 2008 10:19 AM GMT
    I am NOT. I happen to think the Middle East, Mediterranean regions, and South Asia have the hottest men on the planet. Not to mention the women.

    I have Indian in me as well.

    At least racism against you guys isn't as bad as against Asians. Hehe. Anyway...

    I LOVE Middle Eastern techno. I think it's called World Music or something.

    rksportswear, that is not solely an Indian custom. You're making the mistake of associating a negative experience with a specific race.

    Shrewd salespeople are shrewd salespeople, no matter the race. In the Philippines, Indians, Chinese, Muslims, and Ilocanos are known for their shrewdness. It's just expected that you bargain well, that's a given in nonwestern cultures. It works in the opposite direction too, befriend a bazaar merchant and you can get the best deals of your life.

    John43620This is not an issue of race at all. It's an issue of culture.
    Western liberal culture created the most advanced civilization on earth. One of the characteristics of that culture is that we make fun of each other. This develops a "thick skin" so that we can discuss ideas and share opinions and improve on our collective situation, usually without killing one another.
    Blasphemy codifies acceptance of the status quo and stifles new ideas. This keeps the culture that follows
    such practices mired and stagnant. So, making fun of a culture isn't all bad. It's like a mirror. Lighten up.


    Is that the excuse for racists now? -_-

    All civilizations are capable of humor you know. It's not like it's solely a western thing. But I do agree to a point.

    If you're looking for "thick skin", ROFL, try East Asian humor. Westerners won't even know what hit em. Velvet knives as they say.... hehe