Bernie Sanders, conducting A Filibuster we all need to hear

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    Dec 10, 2010 10:38 PM GMT
    Senator Sanders is doing his version of a Filibuster today for a good cause, Look it up on Huffington post. He's talking good 'conservative' yet 'progressive' common sense about not giving more to millionairs and billioinairs. check it out !!!
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    Dec 10, 2010 10:47 PM GMT
    I've been listening to it for the past 2 hours. He's been filibustering for over 7 hours now.
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    Dec 10, 2010 10:53 PM GMT
    I have been a blue dog democrat all my life.....and I can't fuckin believe it took an independent to have the balls to stick up for the middle class and the poor....I again wrote the President ...My Senator and congressman.....I'll say this again....It's a slap in the face to the lower classes and to the unemployed to extend tax breaks for the rich ......My idea again...LET ALL OF THE TAX BREAKS LAPSE FOR EVERYONE.....take those savings and create jobs....Obama just had Clinton on talking in favor of the tax deal....who gives a flyin fuck what he thinks...The problem with politicians is that they are all rich....They don't give a rat's ass about the rest of us....I beg everyone contact the President and your Senator's and Congressman in your area...Tell them we're mad as hell and refuse to eat the bullshit they're tryin in vain to feed us.....I'm angry as hell...you should be too...One more thing send Mr. Sanders a Thank you for his forethought and balls to take on such an important issue....I'm done...BUD
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    Dec 10, 2010 10:55 PM GMT
    Let's see McCain filibustering DADT like Sanders.icon_razz.gif
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    Dec 10, 2010 10:57 PM GMT
    Quick, somebody give him a urinal and a curtain!icon_twisted.gif
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    Dec 10, 2010 11:00 PM GMT
    q1w2e3 saidLet's see McCain filibustering DADT like Sanders.icon_razz.gif

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    Dec 10, 2010 11:48 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    realifedad said Senator Sanders is doing his version of a Filibuster today for a good cause, Look it up on Huffington post. He's talking good 'conservative' yet 'progressive' common sense about not giving more to millionairs and billioinairs. check it out !!!


    So where is the Democrat's proposal for creating a special tax bracket for "millionaires" and "billionaires" because the only tax bracket I see being considered also ensnares single gay men earning $200,000 per year.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>One thing at a time !!! I don't have a problem with a separate tax bracket for Millionairs and Billionairs, but its going to be hard enough to get past this with the party of Nothing for the little guy, everything for the rich guy.
  • GQjock

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    Dec 10, 2010 11:50 PM GMT
    Good for Bernie ....

    He's been the voice of reason for a long long time
    He's absolutely right about everything
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    Dec 11, 2010 12:22 AM GMT
    Bernie is a self-described socialist. With you guys agreeing with his philosophy, guess that makes you socialists too. That's fine, just don't have a fit when you're called socialists.
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    Dec 11, 2010 2:09 AM GMT
    I just want to commend Senator Sanders for being a real fucking American and for standing up for what he believes in. If only the Senate was filled with 99 other members with the courage, integrity and core beliefs that Sen. Sanders has.
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    Dec 11, 2010 3:12 AM GMT
    Hey you 'naysayers' did you listen to anything he was saying today ?? that wasn't socialsim, that was common sense, I thought you wanted to lower the debt from those two wars and all that money that Bush barrowed from China. We cannot be giving it in tax breaks to the rich.
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    Dec 11, 2010 3:13 AM GMT
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    Dec 11, 2010 3:38 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    realifedad said[size=9]Hey you 'naysayers' did you listen to anything he was saying today ?? that wasn't socialsim, that was common sense, I thought you wanted to lower the debt from those two wars and all that money that Bush barrowed from China. We cannot be giving it in tax breaks to the rich.


    The Federal government doesn't "give" anyone any money when they don't raise taxes.

    And, if it's so bad that Bush borrowed trillions from China, why are the Democrats not only continuing the process, but running up huge, record deficits year after year?

    Oh, and take a look at the deficit for 2009, 2010 and the projection for 2011 (all Democrat created):

    The U.S. budget deficit in fiscal 2010, at $1.294 trillion, was the second-highest ever, behind the record 2009 deficit of $1.416 trillion.



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    Rep Sanders did make a good point the effective tax rate for the rich is lower despite how much they make . They shelter and pull there money out. So that proves the point taxing more doesnt make a difference. Actually the amount to the treasury collected remains about the same no matter what.
    Bank of America, had a profit, paid no federal income taxes. But got alot of TARP money.

    Id rather know where all the trillions of bailout went to on WALL STREET. Talk about transparent GOVT

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    Dec 11, 2010 3:42 AM GMT
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    realifedad saidHey you 'naysayers' did you listen to anything he was saying today ?? that wasn't socialsim, that was common sense, I thought you wanted to lower the debt from those two wars and all that money that Bush barrowed from China. We cannot be giving it in tax breaks to the rich.


    The Federal government doesn't "give" anyone any money when they don't raise taxes.

    And, if it's so bad that Bush borrowed trillions from China, why are the Democrats not only continuing the process, but running up huge, record deficits year after year?

    Oh, and take a look at the deficit for 2009, 2010 and the projection for 2011 (all Democrat created):

    The U.S. budget deficit in fiscal 2010, at $1.294 trillion, was the second-highest ever, behind the record 2009 deficit of $1.416 trillion.

    The administration last July said it was projecting a 2011 budget deficit of $1.416 trillion. But Michael Feroli, an analyst at J.P. Morgan Chase, said Friday he expects the budget gap to set a new record in fiscal 2011, reaching $1.5 trillion as the government pays for the extension of tax cuts.


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    Because Bush decimated the economy and then had his Treasury Secretary send a ransom note to Congress saying "give the bankers everything they want or we destroy America." So the people who caused the crisis got off like bandits (which they are) and the tax payers got soaked.

    So now those who benefited from Bush's two terms of profligate spending (millionaires and billionaires), two wars (oil companies and contractors), and expansion of Medicare (Big pharma and insurance companies) should pay the piper.

    Personally, I would make the income tax MORE progressive, meaning your single, gay man making $200k would pay less taxes than say Warren Buffett or even Glenn Beck. But, as you know there are powerful interests - who you and other small business owners regularly carry water for on here - that will spending billions to prevent that, because it's less expensive than paying their fair share.

    Much of our financial problems could be cured by putting a very modest tax on financial transactions (a couple of pennies per trade) which would not only puts billions into the Treasury without having to raise anyone's income tax rate, but would also make speculation for its own sake - a big drive of the boom and bust economy we've been living in my entire lifetime - less profitable and less likely to continue. Such a tax could be focused entirely on paying down the deficit, but the minute it's raised - Glenn Beck screams "socialism" and all the Foxtards and tea baggers will be marching on Washington.
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    Dec 11, 2010 3:49 AM GMT
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    realifedad saidHey you 'naysayers' did you listen to anything he was saying today ?? that wasn't socialsim, that was common sense, I thought you wanted to lower the debt from those two wars and all that money that Bush barrowed from China. We cannot be giving it in tax breaks to the rich.


    The Federal government doesn't "give" anyone any money when they don't raise taxes.

    And, if it's so bad that Bush borrowed trillions from China, why are the Democrats not only continuing the process, but running up huge, record deficits year after year?

    Oh, and take a look at the deficit for 2009, 2010 and the projection for 2011 (all Democrat created):

    The U.S. budget deficit in fiscal 2010, at $1.294 trillion, was the second-highest ever, behind the record 2009 deficit of $1.416 trillion.

    The administration last July said it was projecting a 2011 budget deficit of $1.416 trillion. But Michael Feroli, an analyst at J.P. Morgan Chase, said Friday he expects the budget gap to set a new record in fiscal 2011, reaching $1.5 trillion as the government pays for the extension of tax cuts.


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    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well as you know Bush started the debt which started the debt ball rolling and to fight the results of it costs money to get the economy rolling again. Its been a hell of a ride hasn't it. As far as the money being taxed against the wealthy and it not being the governments money, don't you think that since being in the US is what allowed them to make their millions and billions that a tax should be expected ? I do !!
  • musclmed

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    Dec 11, 2010 3:50 AM GMT
    we need a flat tax system. NO DEDUCTIONS.

    On what is spent on tax collections we could put every kid through 4 years of college.
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    Dec 11, 2010 3:53 AM GMT
    musclmed saidwe need a flat tax system. NO DEDUCTIONS.

    On what is spent on tax collections we could put every kid through 4 years of college.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I totally agree, come up with a set of equitable, income and tax classes/catagories and put the IRS out of business !!!
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    Dec 11, 2010 3:55 AM GMT
    musclmed saidwe need a flat tax system. NO DEDUCTIONS.

    On what is spent on tax collections we could put every kid through 4 years of college.


    Two problems, a flat tax wouldn't prevent the epic transfer of wealth from the poor and working classes to the rich, and the removal of deductions for mortgage payments would further decimate what is left of the housing market, increase the actual costs of healthcare for many people livign with chronic health issue or disabilities and vaporize the nonprofit sector, which on its own keeps the government from spending hundreds of billions every year on social services.
  • Webster666

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    Dec 11, 2010 5:33 AM GMT
    I heard a lot of what Senator Bernie Sanders had to say.
    It made me proud to see ONE member of Congress stand up and tell it like it is.
    It made me disgusted that every pansy assed Democrat was NOT waiting in line to give a similar speech.
    And, the Republicans ? Well, what do you expect ?
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    Dec 11, 2010 5:37 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    realifedad saidHey you 'naysayers' did you listen to anything he was saying today ?? that wasn't socialsim, that was common sense, I thought you wanted to lower the debt from those two wars and all that money that Bush barrowed from China. We cannot be giving it in tax breaks to the rich.


    The Federal government doesn't "give" anyone any money when they don't raise taxes.

    And, if it's so bad that Bush borrowed trillions from China, why are the Democrats not only continuing the process, but running up huge, record deficits year after year?

    Oh, and take a look at the deficit for 2009, 2010 and the projection for 2011 (all Democrat created):

    The U.S. budget deficit in fiscal 2010, at $1.294 trillion, was the second-highest ever, behind the record 2009 deficit of $1.416 trillion.

    The administration last July said it was projecting a 2011 budget deficit of $1.416 trillion. But Michael Feroli, an analyst at J.P. Morgan Chase, said Friday he expects the budget gap to set a new record in fiscal 2011, reaching $1.5 trillion as the government pays for the extension of tax cuts.


    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704457604576011683555582342.html?mod=WSJ_hp_MIDDLTopStories





    You lying sack of shit.
    If you add in the cost of Republican George W. Bush's two wars (which he always intentionally and conveniently omitted), HE had the all time record deficit every year for about 7 years.
  • GQjock

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    Dec 11, 2010 10:53 AM GMT
    Oh, and take a look at the deficit for 2009, 2010 and the projection for 2011 (all Democrat created):

    And the republican Jehovah said ................ and let there be light? on 2009?

    Like there was no 2008? 2007? .......... The cosmos just came together just then
    I know how much you'd like to erase the Bush years but they did exist and there is a deficit monster under your bed and in your closet
    BECAUSE that man took us from a balanced budget to the highest recorded deficit since the beginning of the State of the Union
    and he and his policies were partly to blame for the collapse of the financial system that followed

    .................. so you're tryin' to peddle that the democrats are to blame for a republican WHOLLY owned deficit which they can do almost nothing to change because we are in a whopper of a recession right now

    .................... and the ONE THING they can actually do
    which is to reign in the horrific GIVEAWAYS that BUSH gave to the top 2 %
    which bloats our deficits more than anything else - You don't want him to do

    So in a nutshell
    You want to continue to subsidize the wealthy in our country
    and to do that
    You want: * to cut Social Security or raise the retirement age
    * cut medicare
    * and even cut our military budget
    all because the wealthy need So Much this 700 billion dollars

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  • HottJoe

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    Feb 26, 2016 11:02 PM GMT
    socalfitness saidBernie is a self-described socialist. With you guys agreeing with his philosophy, guess that makes you socialists too. That's fine, just don't have a fit when you're called socialists.

    Okay, McCarthy.icon_rolleyes.gif
  • roadbikeRob

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    Feb 27, 2016 1:21 AM GMT
    robbaker saidHe can have ALL 380 MILLION Americans vote for HIM, but SHE has ALREADY "BOUGHT and PAID FOR" the ESTABLISHMENTS DELEGATES and SUPER DELEGATES, (520 for HER and 70 for HIM currently. EVEN THOUGH they are "neck to neck" on the PEOPLES VOTE),. The Democrats "SYSTEM" is RIGGED by the DNC and the likes of REID, PELOSI, SHUMER, BIDEN, OBAMA, etc.! IF you are a CITIZEN "DEMOCRAT" your VOTE does NOT MATTER! Remember, Gruber told the TRUTH when he said that the Democrat "ESTABLISHMENT" will DO YOUR "THINKING" FOR YOU because in HIS WORDS "YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO "THINK" FOR YOURSELVES" ! THEY will MAKE YOUR DECISIONS FOR YOU! SUCKS to BE a DEMOCRAT! PURELY SOCIALISM!icon_rolleyes.gif
    It doesn't matter what the establishment wants because if the majority of democratic voters want Bernie for democratic nominee, than the DNC establishment isn't going to have any choice but to nominate Bernie or risk the angry wrath of the voters who could either stay home or turn against the democrats by voting either third party or even republican come November. They can spend all the money they want on the hapless Hillary ho but if the voters don't want her nominated and they vote for Bernie instead than its game over for both the DNC hierarchy and Wall Street. They can take their big money and shove it up their asses.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Feb 27, 2016 1:44 PM GMT
    GQjock saidGood for Bernie ....

    He's been the voice of reason for a long long time
    He's absolutely right about everything
    That is why he is the best choice for democratic nominee. It is time for the DNC to get their heads out of their asses and support Bernie's candidacy. Most democratic voters want major change not more of the same. This is why he is surging in the polls. The DNC is wrong for trying to force voters to support the Mary Queen of Goldman Sachs.