It's Never Just HIV

  • metta

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    Dec 11, 2010 1:25 AM GMT
    What do you guys think of the new campaign?




    http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2010/12/10/Graphic_PSA_Warns_of_HIV_Dangers/
  • metta

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    Dec 11, 2010 5:38 AM GMT
    Well, I think this is the best campaign that I have seen for HIV in a very long time. Right now, it is a NY campaign but I think that it should be at least a national campaign.
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    Dec 11, 2010 5:50 AM GMT
    Ewwwwww.
    Are they really going to air that on public television?
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    Dec 11, 2010 6:03 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    It is better than nothing. Is that what you would rather have? Nothing?


    It would be great if it wasn't for that anal cancer image. icon_sad.gif
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    Dec 11, 2010 6:19 AM GMT
    I think it's quite effective, graphic, but definitely gets the message across...so wrap it up buddies icon_wink.gif
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    Dec 11, 2010 6:27 AM GMT
    I think it's a pretty good ad that gets the message across.
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    Dec 11, 2010 6:34 AM GMT
    But.....it never has been just HIV, thats why people have to get rid of pets because of what they may catch off them. Well I never had to see that to know that. So it's means you inflict more than HIV too another by passing it on, that to should be promoted.
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    Dec 11, 2010 6:46 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidPeople with HIV do not have to get rid of their pets. I did some serious research on this topic. People with compromised immune systems need to make sure their pets are de-worked regularly and have regular vet checkups.

    It is people who let their dogs or cats roam wildly and come into contact with wild animals and the diseases associated with wild animals that people have to worry about.


    Well over the years I have knowen many people living with AIDS who where forced to get rid of their dogs and cats, because of the diseases they could get off them because of their impaired immune system, and Oz is not inflected with rabies either, and this was to come from the AIDS council too. maybe they may have changed their policy now, but I known many infected people who had been robed of the love of their pet.
  • Vaughn

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    Dec 11, 2010 7:03 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    A1EX saidEwwwwww.
    Are they really going to air that on public television?



    It is better than nothing. Is that what you would rather have? Nothing?


    People need to be warned, they need to be given every chance they can to avoid it...
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    Dec 11, 2010 7:30 AM GMT
    Very good, information makes the difference!
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    Dec 11, 2010 10:08 AM GMT
    It's not a pretty sight, but it is reality and sometimes people need graphic images to get the message through to their head. Playing Russian roulette with your health is just plain stupid.
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    Dec 11, 2010 11:30 AM GMT
    the importance of this ad is to get the message spread in a more agressive way, since the way they're doing it right now, apparently is not going thru effectively.

    Having HIV damage your inmune system which eventually will make you more vulnerable to whatever thing come across your body, even if you're taking meds .... your body will not protect itself the same way as if it would being 100% healthy and THAT IS what's most important about this ad.

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    Dec 11, 2010 11:53 AM GMT
    I think its a good message and it may strike fear in to some people who dont think using condoms isnt necessary. My only concern is the more fear you instill in people, would it isolate HIV+ people even more?
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    Dec 11, 2010 12:11 PM GMT
    I see it is better than nothing. In fact it's blunt and straight to the point, which is an A if not A+ in terms of a PSA. I'm just a bit disturbed by the commercial is all. Guess it did it's job.
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    Dec 11, 2010 12:41 PM GMT
    True_blue_aussie saidBut.....it never has been just HIV, thats why people have to get rid of pets because of what they may catch off them. Well I never had to see that to know that. So it's means you inflict more than HIV too another by passing it on, that to should be promoted.


    Still living in the late 80's/early 90's, huh?

    While it is true that birds are definitely a no-no, other pets are fine as long as you keep them clean and get them to the vet on a regular basis for check ups.
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    Dec 11, 2010 12:47 PM GMT
    waxon saidI think its a good message and it may strike fear in to some people who dont think using condoms isnt necessary. My only concern is the more fear you instill in people, would it isolate HIV+ people even more?


    That's where education comes in. There was a PSA on mental illness on the radio recently this week where two girls were talking and one girl related to the other that she was diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder, instead of talking about it the friend offered her a piece of pie in an attempt to change the subject. The PSA then informed the audience that instead of avoiding the subject be there for you friends it'll help them recover faster.

    In a nut shell, with PSA's like this and more including on "being there" for friends and family are important. The same with HIV, both the prevention and coping should be combined to make a better informed population. However, that would make for an extremely long commercial.
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    Dec 11, 2010 1:05 PM GMT
    good PSA. handling a subject like HIV transmission shouldn't be handled with delicate gloves. people should know the true risks of getting infected and what could happen. with that said, there also needs to a balance with informing people, once again, how you can and cannot get HIV, and other information that decreases stigmatization of those that are HIV+.
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    Dec 11, 2010 1:09 PM GMT
    RiverRising saidStill living in the late 80's/early 90's, huh?

    While it is true that birds are definitely a no-no, other pets are fine as long as you keep them clean and get them to the vet on a regular basis for check ups.

    I seem to remember my late partner with HIV being told to be cautious when handling used cat litter. I think it may have been due to dust being inhaled that could contain pathogens, I forget if bacterial, viral, or maybe both. Or was it a problem with skin contact, for which I guess you could wear rubber gloves? It's been some years, and neither of us is poz that we've needed to look into this lately, nor have a cat for that matter.

    Anyone recall this, and if it's still a concern with HIV? I'm not scheduled to see my own doctor, who's an HIV specialist, for a few months, or I'd ask her. And if it might pose a risk to visitors who are poz, too, are just through direct handling of the dirty litter?

    EDIT: OK, I decided to do some quick & dirty research myself, and it's called toxoplasmosis, a parasitic protozoan found mostly in cats. And it does seem to still be a risk to those with HIV, to others with compromised immune systems, and pregnant women. It also appears to be transmitted through skin contact, though I would think inhaled dust could do it, too, but I haven't found that definitively stated. Advice given for those at risk is to have some other person handle the litter, but it's mere presence in a residence isn't listed as a danger in the few sources I checked, including to visitors.

    Anybody else know more?
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    Dec 11, 2010 1:35 PM GMT
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    RiverRising saidStill living in the late 80's/early 90's, huh?

    While it is true that birds are definitely a no-no, other pets are fine as long as you keep them clean and get them to the vet on a regular basis for check ups.

    I seem to remember my late partner with HIV being told to be cautious when handling used cat litter. I think it may have been due to dust being inhaled that could contain pathogens, I forget if bacterial, viral, or maybe both. Or was it a problem with skin contact, for which I guess you could wear rubber gloves? It's been some years, and neither of us is poz that we've needed to look into this lately, nor have a cat for that matter.

    Anyone recall this, and if it's still a concern with HIV? I'm not scheduled to see my own doctor, who's an HIV specialist, for a few months, or I'd ask her. And if it might pose a risk to visitors who are poz, too, are just through direct handling of the dirty litter?

    EDIT: OK, I decided to do some quick & dirty research myself, and it's called toxoplasmosis, a parasitic protozoan found mostly in cats. And it does seem to still be a risk to those with HIV, to others with compromised immune systems, and pregnant women. It also appears to be transmitted through skin contact, though I would think inhaled dust could, too, but I haven't found that definitively stated. Advice given for those at risk is to have some other person handle the litter, but it's presence in a residence isn't said to be a danger, including to visitors.

    Anybody else know more?


    cats and/or their litter is something people with any immune deficiancy need to stay away from like pregnant women and the like. they just have harsh chemicals in their pee and their poo. Since they digg their waste into stuff the chance of their paws having the chemical/bacteria is very high. Thats why ther is also something called "Cat scratch fever"


    but i love the kitteh
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    Dec 11, 2010 1:42 PM GMT
    waxon saidcats and/or their litter is something people with any immune deficiancy need to stay away from like pregnant women and the like. they just have harsh chemicals in their pee and their poo. Since they digg their waste into stuff the chance of their paws having the chemical/bacteria is very high. Thats why ther is also something called "Cat scratch fever"

    but i love the kitteh

    Thanks. My edit above crossed your reply, which I think you may have now amended? I'm getting confuzzled. There is a risk to those you list, including with HIV, from toxoplasmosis. But it doesn't seem terribly easy to contract, just don't handle the litter.

    Still, cats will drag that litter around on their paws, one of the reasons my partner refuses to have one here. He really is revolted by the thought that "filthy cat paws" will be running all over his sanitary kitchen counter tops when we're not at home, and he does have a point there.

    And I know they do leave paw prints, from something they track, because my late mother used to go ballistic about the same thing. Only with her is was about her car, which if left outside our garage for any length of time would get visible paw prints all over the windshield and paint.
  • Mepark

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    Dec 11, 2010 1:47 PM GMT
    That anal cancer image was horrifying. It didn't need to be in there. icon_eek.gif
  • conservativej...

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    Dec 11, 2010 3:35 PM GMT
    Good campaign. A dose of reality for many.
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    Dec 11, 2010 6:45 PM GMT
    I think it's counter-productive.

    Those that don't use condoms are already burying their head in the sand. This will only make them repress further. If it was about getting people to get tested for HIV I think it would be a much better campaign. Because treated HIV is much less dangerous than untreated HIV (and much more infectious!).

    Scare campaigns, no good. Please try again.


    EDIT: Oh and metta8 I really appreciate that you commented with your own opinion.
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    Dec 11, 2010 6:50 PM GMT
    People with HIV don't need to get rid of their pets. That's gross misinformation.
  • metta

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    Dec 14, 2010 8:14 AM GMT
    The previous controversial ad that I remember is from 2006: