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    Dec 12, 2010 12:29 AM GMT
    Why are more of us not outraged? Adherents of every other religion are much more civil. Before someone says: "Christians bomb abortion clinics," there have been 8 deaths in such attacks in the past 36 years, and Timothy McVeigh was openly agnostic. Next.

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/12/iranian-court-sentences-man-to-be-blinded-with-acid.html

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/12/afghanistan-misunderstanders-of-islam-murder-15-civilians-with-roadside-bomb.html

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    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/12/jihad-in-sweden-homicide-bomber-screams-allahu-akbar.html

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/12/indonesia-couple-caned-for-extramarital-kiss.html

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/12/indonesia-bomb-placed-in-church-perpetrators-unknown.html

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#attacks

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/12/imam-female-genital-mutilation-recommended-by-islam.html

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/12/pakistan-jihad-martyrdom-bomb-outside-hospital-murders-10.html

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/12/christmas-wishes-from-hamas-praying-for-the-extermination-of-christians-and-jews-.html

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/12/uk-islamic-schools-teach-sharia-punishments-jew-hatred.html

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/12/baltimore-jihad-bomber-hesitated-when-he-heard-about-fbi-sting-that-nabbed-oregon-jihadist-but-decid.html

    PCBS gone mad:
    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/12/yodel-ay-hee-ululululululululululululul.html

    Just like their prophet, many Muslims are pedos.
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/12/malaysia-rejects-calls-to-ban-child-marriage-if-the-religion-allows-it-then-we-cant-legislate-agains.html

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    Doesn't your c(o)untry have the death penalty for gays, bro?

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/026-homosexuality.htm

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/12/video-the-sharia-in-sudan-government-lashes-woman-brutally.html

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/12/gender-segregation-in-toronto.html

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/010-women-worth-less.htm

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/12/young-teen-murdered-for-turning-from-islam-to-christianity.html

    From what I can tell, Muslims seem to be big fans of Ke$ha's new single, "Blow".

    So again, I ask. Why are more of us not outraged?
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    Dec 12, 2010 1:40 AM GMT
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    Dec 12, 2010 2:27 AM GMT
    Looks like someone was on the Interwebs without adult supervision. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 12, 2010 2:29 AM GMT
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    You both are lame, it's all about colored pencils.
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    Dec 12, 2010 2:46 AM GMT
    Christian73 saidLooks like someone was on the Interwebs without adult supervision. icon_rolleyes.gif


    "White liberals, despite viewing themselves as intelligent and open-minded, are actually some of the most illiberal and narrow-minded people in society today. Their reactions to the idea that anyone might think differently to them range from gut-wrenching despair to pure hatred of the kind seen in the most fanatical of ‘true believers’. White liberals are, by and large, incapable of serious adult debate (preferring innuendo and accusations of bigotry)." -writer Edmund Standing
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    Dec 12, 2010 2:50 AM GMT
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    Bullwinklemoos said
    OtterJoq saidI like crayons.
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    You both are lame, it's all about colored pencils.
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    Dec 12, 2010 2:57 AM GMT
    FearTheFall saidWhy are more of us not outraged? Adherents of every other religion are much more civil. Before someone says: "Christians bomb abortion clinics," there have been 8 deaths in such attacks in the past 36 years, and Timothy McVeigh was openly agnostic. Next.
    ... So again, I ask. Why are more of us not outraged?

    You may get some good responses here, but I think you're pushing the intellectual boundaries. There is especially among the left-wing elements, a double standard when it comes to Islam. Some of the other forums we discussed have covered this in depth and the quote from Standing is just part of the discussion, as you know.
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    Dec 12, 2010 3:19 AM GMT
    I submit to you that the Christian religion has a very poor record especially if you take a look at the long history of the Roman Catholic church which basicly represented all of Chistianity up through the Protestant reformation. Haven't you heard of the crusades by the church, haven't you heard of what was done on the American Coasts wherever the natives didn't convert to Christianity ? I'll further submit that any and all religions have a very very bad record of misstreating "nonbelievers", and one religion after another have insisted that all must believe as they do or be condemned to some rediculous "hell". Yah, and on this subject of Hell, according to the christians, God has made a special fire for the non believers that doesn't burn up the sinner, it just burns causing pain for ever and ever. Yep that sure is a peacefull religion if you ask me. By the way, do you know of any fire that doesn't burn up what its burning then burns out, there's no such thing as a fire that doesn't burn up what its burning, unless the fire flickers out, due to a lack of combustible material. What a peaceful God these Christians want the Muslims to follow, believe as we Christians do or suffer at the 'special fire' this loving God has made that's like no other fire and only burns to cause suffering, not to burn up what its burning. Buddy, get over it, all religions are about alike when you look at the big picture, and being liberal has nothing to do with these facts of the history of the worlds religions.
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    Dec 12, 2010 3:23 AM GMT
    realifedad said... Buddy, get over it, all religions are about alike when you look at the big picture, and being liberal has nothing to do with these facts of the history of the worlds religions.

    In recent history the difference between the record of Islam and Christianity regarding terror is significant. Also, there is significant information written about the special relationships between today's White Liberals and Islam. Don't try and deny it before you do some serious research.
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    Dec 12, 2010 3:43 AM GMT
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    realifedad said... Buddy, get over it, all religions are about alike when you look at the big picture, and being liberal has nothing to do with these facts of the history of the worlds religions.

    In recent history the difference between the record of Islam and Christianity regarding terror is significant. Also, there is significant information written about the special relationships between today's White Liberals and Islam. Don't try and deny it before you do some serious research.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Its all a matter of from what side of the world your coming from, perhaps they think in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan that we Christians have killed a lot more than what the Islamic terrorists have, How many civilians died or were displaced in those countries ?? Wasn't it Bush who wanted the world to know we were a "Christian Nation" is it any wonder the muslims to some degree, especially those who have become terrorists see us Christians as evildoers ?? There's always more than one way to look at things, This is a small world these days, and all right isn't on "our side". Much of the world see's our country after Bush as the aggressor, Whose fault is that ?? I don't think its there fault, its our own because we let it go on in our name.
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    Dec 12, 2010 3:49 AM GMT
    I don't think anyone on this site approves of hate speech nor of the suicide bombers. If you see someone being supportive of suicide bombers and of any hate speech espoused by those people in the picture Fearthefall posted, let me know. I haven't seen such support on this site.

    Also, Fearthefall has, unsurprisingly, made a sweeping generalization when he states "adherents of every other religion are much more civil." This comment suggests two things: One, that all non-Muslims are civil. Oh really? Every person who is not of the Muslim faith practices civility, in every sense of the word? Fail. And second, the quote suggests those who are Muslim are less civil. So you are going to take the actions of how ever many bigoted Muslims there are to lay the claim that every Muslim acts and thinks the same?

    It's your poor reasoning that allows bigotry to continue to exist. You permit the actions of a few to speak for all. If you want to judge, judge the individual. No one should be held liable for the sins of others.
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    Dec 12, 2010 3:51 AM GMT
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    realifedad said... Buddy, get over it, all religions are about alike when you look at the big picture, and being liberal has nothing to do with these facts of the history of the worlds religions.

    In recent history the difference between the record of Islam and Christianity regarding terror is significant. Also, there is significant information written about the special relationships between today's White Liberals and Islam. Don't try and deny it before you do some serious research.
    ... Wasn't it Bush who wanted the world to know we were a "Christian Nation" is it any wonder the muslims to some degree, especially those who have become terrorists see us Christians as evildoers ?? There's always more than one way to look at things, This is a small world these days, and all right isn't on "our side". Much of the world see's our country after Bush as the aggressor, Whose fault is that ?? I don't think its there's fault, its our own because we let it go on in our name.

    The relationships I'm referring to don't deal with Bush, Iraq, etc. They are more fundamental.
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    Dec 12, 2010 3:53 AM GMT
    There is great truth in this, from creature, one of the finest men we know..

    "It's your poor reasoning that allows bigotry to continue to exist. You permit the actions of a few to speak for all. If you want to judge, judge the individual. No one should be held liable for the sins of others."

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    creature saidI don't think anyone on this site approves of hate speech nor of the suicide bombers. If you see someone being supportive of suicide bombers and of any hate speech espoused by those people in the picture Fearthefall posted, let me know. I haven't seen such support on this site.

    Also, Fearthefall has, unsurprisingly, made a sweeping generalization when he states "adherents of every other religion are much more civil." This comment suggests two things: One, that all non-Muslims are civil. Oh really? Every person who is not of the Muslim faith practices civility, in every sense of the word? Fail. And second, the quote suggests those who are Muslim are less civil. So you are going to take the actions of how ever many bigoted Muslims there are to lay the claim that every Muslim acts and thinks the same?

    It's your poor reasoning that allows bigotry to continue to exist. You permit the actions of a few to speak for all. If you want to judge, judge the individual. No one should be held liable for the sins of others.

    I believe what FTF intended to say is something to the effect that 1) the group of terrorists is disproportionately represented by Muslims, and 2) Sharia law, practiced and advocated by a significant proportion of Muslims advocates the most brutal practices that are advocated by any modern religion.
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    Dec 12, 2010 4:12 AM GMT
    That's quite an assumption, socalfitness. You neglect that the title of this thread is meant to mock the term. It is clear that he is targeting Islam in general.

    If Fearthefall intends to say something, then he should explicitly say it. I am going by what he posted, not something you claimed was his intended message.
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    Dec 12, 2010 4:24 AM GMT
    creature saidThat's quite an assumption, socalfitness. You neglect that the title of this thread is meant to mock the term. It is clear that he is targeting Islam in general.

    If Fearthefall intends to say something, then he should explicitly say it. I am going by what he posted, not something you claimed was his intended message.

    Your point is well taken, but my interpretation to what he said and his title are both reflective of the religion taken as a whole, or certain elements of the religion, versus individuals. In that context, I think your comment about not discriminating against individuals is true, of course, but not relevant to the discussion. I don't think anyone would logically interpret his title as condemning everyone of the Islam religion. My interpretation of where he was intending to go is to properly assess problems in the world, we cannot be blind to the groups involved. More succinctly, there is a problem in the world with radical Islam. If we refuse to acknowledge this, we will not face the problems.
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    Dec 12, 2010 4:26 AM GMT
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    socalfitness saidIn recent history the difference between the record of Islam and Christianity regarding terror is significant. Also, there is significant information written about the special relationships between today's White Liberals and Islam. Don't try and deny it before you do some serious research.

    Translation: bla bla bla bla scary dark people bla bla bla



    You know if I say that it would be playing the race card. Despite the fact it is a totally valid aspect of the conversation.
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    Dec 12, 2010 4:33 AM GMT
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    creature saidThat's quite an assumption, socalfitness. You neglect that the title of this thread is meant to mock the term. It is clear that he is targeting Islam in general.

    If Fearthefall intends to say something, then he should explicitly say it. I am going by what he posted, not something you claimed was his intended message.

    Your point is well taken, but my interpretation to what he said and his title are both reflective of the religion taken as a whole, or certain elements of the religion, versus individuals. In that context, I think your comment about not discriminating against individuals is true, of course, but not relevant to the discussion. I don't think anyone would logically interpret his title as condemning everyone of the Islam religion. My interpretation of where he was intending to go is to properly assess problems in the world, we cannot be blind to the groups involved. More succinctly, there is a problem in the world with radical Islam. If we refuse to acknowledge this, we will not face the problems.


    He said, and I'll quote again, "adherents of every other religion are much more civil." You couple this statement, with the threads title, Fearthefall mentioning there have been 8 deaths related to Christians bombing abortion clinics, that McVeigh was agnostic, and you will see he wants to isolate Islam and condemn it as a whole for the actions of a few.

    He is indeed judging individuals for what others have done.
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    Dec 12, 2010 4:34 AM GMT
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    socalfitness saidIn recent history the difference between the record of Islam and Christianity regarding terror is significant. Also, there is significant information written about the special relationships between today's White Liberals and Islam. Don't try and deny it before you do some serious research.

    Translation: bla bla bla bla scary dark people bla bla bla



    You know if I say that it would be playing the race card. Despite the fact it is a totally valid aspect of the conversation.


    Just go ahead and say it. It's clear from their posts that socalfitness and mocktwinkie have their own version of the race card that they have been dealing with in their posts.
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    Dec 12, 2010 4:36 AM GMT
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    creature saidThat's quite an assumption, socalfitness. You neglect that the title of this thread is meant to mock the term. It is clear that he is targeting Islam in general.

    If Fearthefall intends to say something, then he should explicitly say it. I am going by what he posted, not something you claimed was his intended message.

    Your point is well taken, but my interpretation to what he said and his title are both reflective of the religion taken as a whole, or certain elements of the religion, versus individuals. In that context, I think your comment about not discriminating against individuals is true, of course, but not relevant to the discussion. I don't think anyone would logically interpret his title as condemning everyone of the Islam religion. My interpretation of where he was intending to go is to properly assess problems in the world, we cannot be blind to the groups involved. More succinctly, there is a problem in the world with radical Islam. If we refuse to acknowledge this, we will not face the problems.


    He said, and I'll quote again, "adherents of every other religion are much more civil." You couple this statement, with the threads title, Fearthefall mentioning there have been 8 deaths related to Christians bombing abortion clinics, that McVeigh was agnostic, and you will see he wants to isolate Islam and condemn it as a whole for the actions of a few.

    He is indeed judging individuals for what others have done.

    I think the only individuals he is judging are the terrorists. And the title reflects the fact that almost all terrorists are Islam and also earlier comment about Sharia Law. But that's my interpretation.
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    Dec 12, 2010 4:40 AM GMT
    creature said
    DoomsDayAlpaca said
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    socalfitness saidIn recent history the difference between the record of Islam and Christianity regarding terror is significant. Also, there is significant information written about the special relationships between today's White Liberals and Islam. Don't try and deny it before you do some serious research.

    Translation: bla bla bla bla scary dark people bla bla bla



    You know if I say that it would be playing the race card. Despite the fact it is a totally valid aspect of the conversation.


    Just go ahead and say it. It's clear from their posts that socalfitness and mocktwinkie have their own version of the race card that they have been dealing with in their posts.

    You're all so full of shit when it comes to slinging the race card. Never came up in this thread until DDA brought it up, as he always does. And I'd like you tell me exactly what post I made where I dealt with race in a discriminatory fashion. Otherwise STFU. And another thing - mocktwinkie was not involved in this thread. For you to bring him up is classless.
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    Dec 12, 2010 4:42 AM GMT
    Islamic countries are still stuck in the medieval age.

    By that, I mean that they're where Christianity was in the 1100-1600's. Crusades, inquisitions, religious wars and martyrdom were common then. If Joan of Arc were alive today, she would find a kindred spirit in Osama bin Laden, even though the politics and motives are different. Similarly, St. Ignatius of Loyola would probably have common language with imams issuing fatwas.

    Islam has been forced to modernize within 100 years and it's not doing a good job, simply because it had less time to do it.

    Am I not outraged by 9/11 and other terrorist attacks? Yes, to a similar extent as abortion clinic bombings. Because they stem from the same fundamentalist thinking, regardless of the religion or politics.

    That's why everybody should either be a Buddhist, an agnostic or atheist. icon_razz.gif
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    Dec 12, 2010 4:43 AM GMT
    If that were so he wouldn't have said "adherents of every other religion are much more civil," as it is understood by most that those who are terrorists are not civil. He could not have meant just the terrorists. If he did, which I doubt with reasonable cause, I suggest he pick up Struck & White to help get his thoughts organized and deliver a clear message.
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    Dec 12, 2010 4:47 AM GMT
    creature saidIf that were so he wouldn't have said "adherents of every other religion are much more civil," as it is understood by most that those who are terrorists are not civil. He could not have meant just the terrorists. If he did, which I doubt with reasonable cause, I suggest he pick up Struck & White to help get his thoughts organized and deliver a clear message.

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