Tao Te Ching

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    Dec 13, 2010 4:46 AM GMT
    I'm recently come across a few books that center around Tao Te Ching and I must say it's a refreshing look on life. I was raised a Catholic/Baptist christian and they really haven't gave me just enlightenment as the Tao has, just confusion and wondering why all the time.

    Has anyone had similar experiences or noticed a difference after reading a few verses of the Tao?

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    Dec 13, 2010 1:08 PM GMT
    The most memorable thing I've ever read about Daoism were the Daoist Sex Manuals, which purported to help increase the longevity of the male partner by harnessing the female's yin essence without expending the male yang essence (essentially having lots of sex with lots of people but without ever ejaculating). And that all such books are not available to be read in China. icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Dec 13, 2010 1:42 PM GMT
    Christ the eternal Tao. That's actually the title of a book. Something really cool to ponder icon_smile.gif
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    Dec 14, 2010 2:27 AM GMT
    at first look most people scoff at reading a book like this, but

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    is a great read, a great way of thinking about the Tao

    http://www.just-pooh.com/tao.html
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    Dec 14, 2010 6:42 AM GMT
    Agreed. The Tao of Pooh was one of my favorite books. Ricovelas, I'd also recommend the book of Chuang Tze (or however it's usually transliterated). It addresses the same subject, but through parable instead of verse. Plus, it's funnier. ;)
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    Dec 14, 2010 6:50 AM GMT
    I like Tao, its cool stuff
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    Dec 14, 2010 6:53 AM GMT
    I thought this was gonna be about Sun Tzu and something cool like The Art of War.

    But as usual,
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    Dec 14, 2010 6:55 AM GMT
    Tazo995 saidI thought this was gonna be about Sun Tzu and something cool like The Art of War.

    But as usual,
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    Aww Mr. Tazo ur such a kidder.
    It's good stuff man, you outta give it a shot icon_smile.gif
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    Dec 14, 2010 7:03 AM GMT
    Tazo995 saidI thought this was gonna be about Sun Tzu and something cool like The Art of War.

    But as usual,
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    Lol I like Sun Tzu and the Art of War really...

    but that has little to do with the Tao Te Ching, which was written by a mythical author
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    Dec 14, 2010 7:03 AM GMT
    A while ago I read up a bit on Taoism. The ideas are interesting, and it's not really a religion anyway.
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    Dec 14, 2010 7:04 AM GMT
    Ricovelas said
    Tazo995 saidI thought this was gonna be about Sun Tzu and something cool like The Art of War.

    But as usual,
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    Aww Mr. Tazo ur such a kidder.
    It's good stuff man, you outta give it a shot icon_smile.gif


    Pot calling the kettle black babe?
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    Dec 14, 2010 7:05 AM GMT
    Tazo995 saidA while ago I read up a bit on Taoism. The ideas are interesting, and it's not really a religion anyway.


    NO it isnt, in fact, your ideas do kind of mesh up well with it
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    Dec 14, 2010 7:16 AM GMT
    It's ideals are incorporated heavily into Buddhism from my the few articles I've read so far. I'm not looking to follow it as a religion per se, but just to look at some the verses and see life differently. Tazo it relates back to that book I was telling you about " Be free where you are".

    Amar as far as calling a pot black... where exactly you going with that one?
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    Dec 14, 2010 7:23 AM GMT
    Ricovelas saidIt's ideals are incorporated heavily into Buddhism from my the few articles I've read so far. I'm not looking to follow it as a religion per se, but just to look at some the verses and see life differently. Tazo it relates back to that book I was telling you about " Be free where you are".

    Amar as far as calling a pot black... where exactly you going with that one?


    LOL not you mate, I meant it for Tazo... he knows what I mean icon_smile.gif

    Ehm, the reason Taoist thoughts were heavily incorporated into Buddhism was because Buddhism spread into Asia after its inception... and picked up many native aspects on the way...

    In the Middle East, it took up building marble statues from the Greeks and Romans (the original Buddhists were not allowed to build statues or make images of the Buddha)

    In China, it took up aspects of Taoism

    In tibet, it took up shamanic rituals from the Bon religion in the HImalayas

    In Japan, it took up aspects of Japanese Shinto worhip (spirit worship)... worshiping anything is in fact not allowed in original Buddhism

    From India, it came with much Indian tantric imagery and rituals (bell-sounding, reciting mantras, incense, and counting beads, which the monks later exported to the West, where Christianity adopted these rituals in its monasteries and churches, along with the concept of "monkhood" or monastic life... yes, these Christian rituals are actually Indian Buddhist in origin... just listen to a buddhist mantra and the european christian prayers.. they use the same melodies)

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    Dec 14, 2010 7:32 AM GMT
    amar_m said
    Ricovelas saidIt's ideals are incorporated heavily into Buddhism from my the few articles I've read so far. I'm not looking to follow it as a religion per se, but just to look at some the verses and see life differently. Tazo it relates back to that book I was telling you about " Be free where you are".

    Amar as far as calling a pot black... where exactly you going with that one?


    LOL not you mate, I meant it for Tazo... he knows what I mean icon_smile.gif

    Ehm, the reason Taoist thoughts were heavily incorporated into Buddhism was because Buddhism spread into Asia after its inception... and picked up many native aspects on the way...

    In the Middle East, it took up building marble statues from the Greeks and Romans (the original Buddhists were not allowed to build statues or make images of the Buddha)

    In China, it took up aspects of Taoism

    In tibet, it took up shamanic rituals from the Bon religion in the HImalayas

    In Japan, it took up aspects of Japanese Shinto worhip (spirit worship)... worshiping anything is in fact not allowed in original Buddhism

    From India, it came with much Indian tantric imagery and rituals (bell-sounding, reciting mantras, incense, and counting beads, which the monks later exported to the West, where Christianity adopted these rituals in its monasteries and churches, along with the concept of "monkhood" or monastic life... yes, these Christian rituals are actually Indian Buddhist in origin... just listen to a buddhist mantra and the european christian prayers.. they use the same melodies)



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    Man, you've got your religious histories sorted, Patrick! I'm impressed!
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    Dec 14, 2010 7:39 AM GMT
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    Man, you've got your religious histories sorted, Patrick! I'm impressed!


    Thanks Tyler, coming from you that made me blush icon_redface.gif

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    Dec 14, 2010 7:41 AM GMT
    BoulderingBum said

    Man, you've got your religious histories sorted, Patrick! I'm impressed!


    Thanks Tyler, coming from you that made me blush icon_redface.gif

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    Dec 14, 2010 7:50 AM GMT
    Ricovelas saidI'm recently come across a few books that center around Tao Te Ching and I must say it's a refreshing look on life. I was raised a Catholic/Baptist christian and they really haven't gave me just enlightenment as the Tao has, just confusion and wondering why all the time.

    Has anyone had similar experiences or noticed a difference after reading a few verses of the Tao?



    Yes, after taking a philosophy class I learned to really love taoism. Its one of the greatest if not best teachings out there (not a religion). I love the way it is written in contradictions and how you spiritually feel inclined to want to be enlighten after reading it. Some of my favorite verse from the tao te ching are,
    "Free from desire, you realize the mystery. Caught in desire, you only see manifestations..."

    "Man follows the Earth. Earth Follows the universe. The universe follows Tao. The Tao follows only itself."

    "Color blinds the eye. Sounds deafen the ear, Flavor numb the taste. Thoughts weaken the mind. Desires wither the heart."

    "The Master acts without doing anything and teaches without saying anything. Things arise and she lets them come; things disappear and she lets them go. She has but doesn't possess, acts but doesn't expect. When her work is done, she forgets it. That is why it last forever."


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    Dec 14, 2010 8:15 AM GMT
    Everyone knows that to be useful is useful, but who knows how useful it is to be useless?

    -Dao De Jing
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    Dec 17, 2010 3:37 PM GMT
    'A journey has a beginning and an end.'

    'If silence is golden then of what value the spoken word?'

    'When food is eaten it becomes poop, but if poop is eaten it does not become food."

    OK ok, I'm having fun with you guys. icon_lol.gif

    -Doug
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    Dec 17, 2010 3:46 PM GMT
    meninlove said 'A journey has a beginning and an end.'

    'If silence is golden then of what value the spoken word?'

    'When food is eaten it becomes poop, but if poop is eaten it does not become food."

    OK ok, I'm having fun with you guys. icon_lol.gif

    -Doug


    ehm yeah lol
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    Many search for the answers externally, when all the time they have been there, internally, within the soul which is the spirit. No man has ever contained the wisdom of the spiritual, for no man can completely understand it, unless he searches deeply within...................................Keithicon_cool.gif
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    Jan 04, 2011 5:09 PM GMT
    gallus81 saidat first look most people scoff at reading a book like this, but

    tao-m.jpg

    is a great read, a great way of thinking about the Tao

    http://www.just-pooh.com/tao.html



    This is a great book!
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    Jan 08, 2011 9:49 AM GMT
    vetteset saidMany search for the answers externally, when all the time they have been there, internally, within the soul which is the spirit. No man has ever contained the wisdom of the spiritual, for no man can completely understand it, unless he searches deeply within...................................Keithicon_cool.gif


    I would consider Tao wisdom yes, spiritual no really.. in fact, not at all