Merry Christmas vs. Happy Holidays

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    Dec 14, 2010 9:58 AM GMT
    This is about sensitivity to all religious holidays vs keeping tradition. I'm leaning towards keeping the Christmas tradition even though I'm Jewish. Here's why. Christmas has become a very commercial holiday that vaguely has roots in Christianity and is largely about giving presents, drinking egg nog, roasting your nuts on an open fire, and playing in snow (fake snow if you're in LA). But why are we saying "Happy Holidays"? Oh yeah. There's like 10% or less of the population who can't stand that you're assuming they're celebrating Christmas, even though it really isn't a Christian holiday.

    But what other holidays are we including when we say Happy Holidays?

    Hanukkah - celebrated by the Jews
    This holiday is more like the Jewish 4th of July, and occurs anytime between November and January. The Jews have incorporated the American "give lots of presents" into this holiday to make you think it's a Jewish Christmas, but it's really just eight days of more praying and gambling with dreidels. It's just a coincidence that is falls around Christmas.

    Kwanza - celebrate by few Blacks
    Though the intentions of the holiday actually sound sincere, there's really no point to make it up to replace Christmas. It's just a holiday to celebrate African heritage and has nothing to do with Christmas.

    Ramadan - celebrated by Muslims
    Well, this isn't something to be happy about. They're on a diet for a month and they get pretty miserable from being unable to ear 12 hours at a time...and probably pray a lot. Again, this has nothing to do with Christmas.

    So when you wish "Happy Holidays" to someone, you're making 90% of the population think that 10% of the population has an alternative holiday akin to Christmas, but really they just have one of dozens of holidays all year round and one of them just happens to be around Christmas. With your logic of "Happy Holidays" you might as well wish everyone "Happy Holidays" on Valentines Day and St. Patricks Day because those also have religious roots even though they're just another (fun) American holiday. In the end, I'm erring on the side to keep Christmas Christmas. If there's heavy populations of African Americans, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, Athiests, and/or Jews in your area, then yeah go ahead and say Happy Holidays so you don't piss anyone off. But you shouldn't feel bad for wishing someone a Merry Christmas if you live in the U.S. Though having said that, you also shouldn't feel offended if I reply to you with a Happy Hanukkah. icon_wink.gif
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    Dec 14, 2010 10:18 AM GMT
    Just be fucking happy dammit, regardless of whether or not it's a holiday season. icon_razz.gif
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    Dec 14, 2010 3:41 PM GMT
    Bill observed once that 'happy holidays' has little meaning for a huge number of people who have to work straight through them, as in, 'what holidays?'.

    -Doug
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    Dec 14, 2010 7:59 PM GMT
    Happy Holidays

    seems more appropriate plus it kinda encompasses all the following: New Years and XMas and Hanukkah.
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    Dec 14, 2010 8:02 PM GMT
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    Dec 14, 2010 11:17 PM GMT
    Friends and my side of the family get "Merry Christmas" if appropriate. Strangers and bf's side of the family get "Happy Holidays" and can make of that whatever they want. If someone makes an issue of this I icon_rolleyes.gif and move on.
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    Dec 14, 2010 11:54 PM GMT
    I say “Merry Christmas” as an automatic response this time of the year, unless I know the person doesn't celebrate Christmas. When I worked in retail I was corrected by a customer once and they were right I should’ve been saying happy holidays since not everyone celebrates Christmas. As far as Christmas being a Christian holiday goes you’re right Christmas is more commercialized, although a lot of people go to Church even it’s only at this time of the year. I suppose happy holidays is to show respect to other religions as well since it’s well known our country bases a lot of its values on Christianity and most people are Christian/Catholic myself included.
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    Dec 15, 2010 3:07 AM GMT
    I say merry christmas because I'm a consumer whore.

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    Dec 15, 2010 3:09 AM GMT
    Merry Fucking Christmas!

    There, ya happy?


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    Dec 15, 2010 5:38 AM GMT
    Its Merry Christmas for me, lets not ignore the white elephant in the room, thats what all this fuss is about Christmas, not Hannukah (which is already over) or Kwanzaa (come on now)
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    Dec 15, 2010 6:37 AM GMT
    I just say.. "Have a good one". General purpose phrase. Can be used all year round for any occasion. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Dec 15, 2010 6:43 AM GMT
    Worse yet.. Seasons Greetings
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    Dec 15, 2010 8:47 PM GMT
    5ebastian saidHappy Holidays

    seems more appropriate plus it kinda encompasses all the following: New Years and XMas and Hanukkah.


    No, it's not. Especially not now. Hanukkah was so last week. It's all about Christmas now.