Finally, some respect for body builders' knowledge.

  • AthleteTO

    Posts: 12

    Dec 15, 2010 5:02 PM GMT
    This from the (pretty damn awesome) book 4-Hour Body (http://amzn.to/dUlelo) from Tim Ferriss (author of one of my fav books of all time, the 4-Hour Workweek, New York Times #1 bestseller.)

    His inclusion of hardcore, knowledgeable body builders is pretty cool. The book is definitely a buffet of some pretty wild stuff, but having read his former book and his blog for quite some time, I'd expect nothing less.

    Most breakthroughs in performance (and appearance) enhancement start with animals and go through the following adoption curve:

    Racehorses –> AIDS patients (because of muscle wasting) and bodybuilders –> elite athletes –> rich people –> the rest of us

    The last jump from the rich to the general public can take 10–20 years, if it happens at all. It often doesn’t.

    I’m not suggesting that you start injecting yourself with odd substances never before tested on humans. I am suggesting, however, that government agencies (the U.S. Department of Agriculture, the Food and Drug Administration) are at least 10 years behind current research, and at least 20 years behind compelling evidence in the field.

    More than a decade ago, a close friend named Paul was in a car accident and suffered brain damage that lowered his testosterone production. Even with supplemental testosterone treatments (creams, gels, short-acting injectables) and after visiting scores of top endocrinologists, he still suffered from the symptoms of low testosterone. Everything changed— literally overnight—once he switched to testosterone enanthate, a variation seldom seen in the medical profession in the United States. Who made the suggestion? An advanced bodybuilder who knew his biochemistry. It shouldn’t have made a difference, yet it did.

    Do doctors normally take advantage of the 50+ years of experience that professional bodybuilders have testing, even synthesizing, esters of testosterone? No. Most doctors view bodybuilders as cavalier amateurs, and bodybuilders view doctors as too risk-averse to do anything innovative.

    This separation of the expertise means both sides suffer suboptimal results.
    Handing your medical care over to the biggest man-gorilla in your gym is a bad idea, but it’s important to look for discoveries outside of the usual suspects. Those closest to a problem are often the least capable of seeing it with fresh eyes.

    Despite the incredible progress in some areas of medicine in the last 100 years, a 60-year-old in 2009 can expect to live an average of only 6 years longer than a 60-year-old in 1900.

    Suffice to say: for uncommon solutions, you have to look in uncommon places.


    Book contents and first chapter: http://bit.ly/fCfo7u

    Enjoy! I sure am.. ;)
  • Hunkymonkey

    Posts: 215

    Dec 28, 2010 7:23 PM GMT
    Testo cypionate is what is commonly available in the US, while testo enanthate is common in Europe. Guess what? Testosterone is testosterone is testosterone. The difference between cypionate and enanthate esters is minimal, except that while enan has about a 10 day half-life, cyp has about a 12 day half-life due to the slightly longer ester. The actual testosterone works the same in either case. If you are talking about propionate, milligram for milligram, it will be stronger because the ester is so much shorter, which is why you must inject that every 2nd or 3rd day.

    Test enanthate -
    Molecular weight of base: 288.429
    Molecular weight of ester: 130.1864

    Test cypionate -
    Molecular Weight (base): 288.429
    Molecular Weight (ester): 132.1184

    In my personal.experience, there are 3 keys to effective testosterone replacement therapy:
    1) A knowledgeable doctor - this is less common than you might think. A bright doc can help you establish the baseline testo level you need - depending on your lifestyle. An athlete with low testo will need a higher level than an sedentary man.
    2) Dosage
    3) Frequency of dosage