Current Discussion Re: Israel/Palestine Peace Talks, Is an agreement even possible when so much ground was conceded to even get Israel back to talk

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    Dec 17, 2010 1:52 PM GMT
    According to an article in Reuters, Sec of State Clinton was to return to talks after a US promise re: backing off requiring a moratorium on settlement construction. However the topics are to be; 1, Security, 2, the future of Jerusalem and settlements in territory Israel occupied in the 1967 Middle East War, and 3, the fate of Palestinian refugees.
    From previous reading Obama/Clinton gave concessions previously unheard of to Israel just to get them back to the table.
    1, What were the exact concessions the US gave to get them back to the table?
    2, The PLO wrote Israel showed its priorities were "settlement expansion and perpetuating the occupation", Will US concessions to get Israel back to the table end up undermining Palestinian trust in US 'good faith' efforts at peace ?
    3, the EU foreign ministers said; "our views on settlements, including in East Jerusalem, are clear; they are illegal under international law and an obstacle to peace" Are US actions/concessions to israel undermining the power of the EU to pressure Israel to stop these settlements ?
    Lets have an honest discussion of these "CURRENT TOPICS" minus being overrun by Zionist Ancient history influence of Ceaserea4 who has completely dominated all other forum topics on these subjects. Ceaserea4 Please honor this request to not comment here and keep your ZIONIST rhetoric to the other topics/discussions that you already dominate.
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    Dec 17, 2010 11:30 PM GMT
    Well I sure didn't realize that the would be winners in that over overzealous give away of Obama's was turned down. I'd like to have been a "mouse in the corner" and heard what what the negotiators from the West bank had to say about that one. Our being so overwelmingly influenced bye AIPAC may be totally missed by our American Public, but I'll bet in the Middle East are absolutely steaming. Its a wonder they came back to the negotiating table. Anybody else have some info on this ?
  • tokugawa

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    Dec 18, 2010 2:32 AM GMT
    The only hope for a peaceful solution between the Israelis and the Palestinians is the South African model: boycott, divestment, and sanctions; nothing else will work since everything else has been tried.

    The current situation of overwhelming Israeli power combined with the overwhelming lack of power of the Palestinians results in permanent deadlock. Basically, there is no incentive for the Israelis to make any concessions at all, in fact, the Israelis are “creating facts on the ground,” by EXPANDING their settlements in Jerusalem and the West Bank, and the Palestinians have no power to change that. It’s like having a discussion of how to divide a pizza when one side is eating the pizza, and the other side can do nothing about it. Eventually, the weak side gets nothing.
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    Dec 18, 2010 3:48 PM GMT
    Key to a lot of whats going on with the US backing of everything Israel does, is their AIPAC Lobby that's so strong and influencial that when its time for candidates to make their bids to run for president they're obligated to get this groups backing.

    Does anyone know if the Palestinians have a Lobby at all for their causes ?
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    Dec 20, 2010 5:34 AM GMT