Study Confirms That Fox News Makes You Misinformed

  • metta

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    Dec 17, 2010 10:15 PM GMT
    Study Confirms That Fox News Makes You Misinformed


    http://www.alternet.org/story/149193/study_confirms_that_fox_news_makes_you_stupid/
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    Dec 17, 2010 10:59 PM GMT
    Now, that's just unbecoming and inflammatory, almost matching SB's headlines. Metta don't go over to the dark side! icon_lol.gif

    As I said in the other thread, all it shows is that the more people watch Fox, the more likely they are going to be misinformed on certain political issues. "makes" implies intent, i.e. disinformation. Association does not prove causation. You can be "misinformed" and smart, totally correct and "stupid" at the same time.
  • metta

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    Dec 17, 2010 11:22 PM GMT
    Is that better? ;) I can't change the title of the actual article though...
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    Dec 17, 2010 11:24 PM GMT
    There's still that word "makes" that implies malicious intent. icon_lol.gif
  • metta

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    Dec 17, 2010 11:35 PM GMT
    lol.....well I was told that Robert Murdoch said that he would keep fox news even if it did not make any money so that he could use it to influence people. It is more of a manipulation than malicious intent...
  • GQjock

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    Dec 17, 2010 11:37 PM GMT
    # 91 percent believe the stimulus legislation lost jobs
    # 72 percent believe the health reform law will increase the deficit
    # 72 percent believe the economy is getting worse
    # 60 percent believe climate change is not occurring
    # 49 percent believe income taxes have gone up
    # 63 percent believe the stimulus legislation did not include any tax cuts
    # 56 percent believe Obama initiated the GM/Chrysler bailout
    # 38 percent believe that most Republicans opposed TARP
    # 63 percent believe Obama was not born in the U.S.


    This is the result of republican led propaganda via FOX
    This would make Stalin weep with envy
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    Dec 18, 2010 4:32 AM GMT
    metta8 saidStudy Confirms That Fox News Makes You Misinformed


    http://www.alternet.org/story/149193/study_confirms_that_fox_news_makes_you_stupid/


    Fox the most biased name in news
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    Dec 18, 2010 6:02 AM GMT
    In other news: bears shit in woods.
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    Dec 18, 2010 6:03 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidAnother study confirms that the RJ liberal hens are obsessed with Fox News.


    And Gay Republicans are self-loathing.
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    Dec 18, 2010 6:13 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidBTW..... from the "Alternet" mission statement:

    AlterNet has developed a unique model of journalism to confront the failures of corporate media, as well as the vitriol and disinformation of right wing media, especially “hate talk” media.

    But a few of us on here already knew that this is just another liberal, biased "source." icon_wink.gif


    Anddddd the broken record is still.... broken.
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    Dec 18, 2010 6:46 AM GMT
    But SB, the investigators weren't even looking for this. The data found its way to the investigators:

    http://open.salon.com/blog/jimmy_zuma/2010/12/16/fox_news_top_source_of_voter_misinformation_study_findsThe researchers didn’t originally intend to rank news outlets. They simply wanted to know sources of voter misinformation. Ramsay discovered the unusual FOX correlation—the more you watch the worse it gets—unexpectedly, while sifting through the data. FOX was alone in this regard.


    And would you please care to comment on the 4 pages of the study which shows:
    http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/dec10/Misinformation_Dec10_rpt.pdfThese effects increased incrementally with increasing levels of [Fox News] exposure and all were statistically significant. The effect was also not simply a function of partisan bias, as people who voted Democratic and watched Fox News were also more likely to have such misinformation than those who did not watch it--though by a lesser margin than those who voted Republican


    And the more you watch, the worse it gets (the tables are there if you click on the pdf link), except for the category "It was proven that the US Chamber of Commerce was spending foreign money to back Republicans" which was more a reverse trend. Coincidence?

    same studyIn most cases increasing exposure to news sources decreased misinformation; however, for some news sources on some issues, higher levels of exposure increased misinformation.

  • musclmed

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    Dec 18, 2010 6:50 AM GMT
    see when liberals are less than 23% of the population and far left leaning liberals are 8%, someone has to explain away for it to be that way.

    It must be bias , propaganda, fox, rush Limbaugh.
    Guess what, people have a right to feel the way the want to. And they do for a lot of reasons.

    For me it boils down to a few things, I grew up in New York. It was a cess pool of corruption until Guilani took over. He is a libertarian-Repub. He has gay best friends, he cleaned up the city.

    I like paying less in taxes. I like government to not get involved in my life.

    I dont second guess how others feel politically. I dont think they are somehow BRAINWASHED, or spewing propaganda. I dont psychoanalyze even though I have some training to do so why people are so compelled to dismiss others they disagree with.
  • Webster666

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    Dec 18, 2010 6:51 AM GMT
    q1w2e3 saidThere's still that word "makes" that implies malicious intent. icon_lol.gif



    "Malicious intent ????"
    Fox "News ?"
    Gosh, yuh think ?

    The FCC should make a rule that would not allow a program to call itself a "news" program unless it followed stringent guidelines. Otherwise, as the study showed, the general public can be easily misled (FOOLED) by liars and propaganda mills, like Faux News.
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    Dec 18, 2010 6:52 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Yeah, funny how liberals consider liberal outlets "unbiased." icon_lol.gif


    No, but to a much lesser extent than Fox News in terms of the number of questions people were misinformed:

    http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brunitedstatescanadara/671.php?nid=&id=&pnt=671&lb=There were cases with some other news sources as well. Daily consumers of MSNBC and public broadcasting (NPR and PBS) were higher (34 points and 25 points respectively) in believing that it was proven that the US Chamber of Commerce was spending money raised from foreign sources to support Republican candidates. Daily watchers of network TV news broadcasts were 12 points higher in believing that TARP was signed into law by President Obama, and 11 points higher in believing that most Republicans oppose TARP.
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    Dec 18, 2010 6:55 AM GMT
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    q1w2e3 saidThere's still that word "makes" that implies malicious intent. icon_lol.gif



    "Malicious intent ????"
    Fox "News ?"
    Gosh, yuh think ?

    The FCC should make a rule that would not allow a program to call itself a "news" program unless it followed stringent guidelines. Otherwise, as the study showed, the general public can be easily misled (FOOLED) by liars and propaganda mills, like Faux News.


    Since we're talking about intent:
    Toxins aren't purposefully there to poison you. It's up to the EPA to regulate the level of "acceptable" exposure for the population. But clearly in this country people would be incensed if their right to [mis]information is challenged.
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    Dec 18, 2010 6:57 AM GMT
    musclmed saidsee when liberals are less than 23% of the population and far left leaning liberals are 8%, someone has to explain away for it to be that way.

    It must be bias , propaganda, fox, rush Limbaugh.
    Guess what, people have a right to feel the way the want to. And they do for a lot of reasons.

    For me it boils down to a few things, I grew up in New York. It was a cess pool of corruption until Guilani took over. He is a libertarian-Repub. He has gay best friends, he cleaned up the city.

    I like paying less in taxes. I like government to not get involved in my life.

    I dont second guess how others feel politically. I dont think they are somehow BRAINWASHED, or spewing propaganda. I dont psychoanalyze even though I have some training to do so why people are so compelled to dismiss others they disagree with.






    You don't like liberals ?
    You don't like government getting involved in your life ?


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    Dec 18, 2010 7:27 AM GMT
    And here's Fox's ad hominem reply to the study authors:

    http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/17/study-some-viewers-were-misinformed-by-tv-news/
    Asked for comment on the study, Fox News seemingly dismissed the findings. In a statement, Michael Clemente, who is the senior vice president of news editorial for the network, said: “The latest Princeton Review ranked the University of Maryland among the top schools for having ‘Students Who Study The Least’ and being the ‘Best Party School’ – given these fine academic distinctions, we’ll regard the study with the same level of veracity it was ‘researched’ with.”

    Mr. Clemente oversees every hour of objective news programming on Fox News, which is by far the nation’s most popular cable news channel.

    For the record, the Princeton Review says the University of Maryland ranks among the “Best Northeastern Colleges.” It was No. 19 on the Review’s list of “Best Party Schools.”

    The study was backed by two parts of the University of Maryland, the Center on Policy Attitudes and the Center for International and Security Studies.


    They can't even get their ad hominem attacks factually right. icon_lol.gificon_lol.gif
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    Dec 18, 2010 8:30 AM GMT
    GQjock said
    This is the result of republican led propaganda via FOX
    This would make Stalin weep with envy


    Or Goldstein stand with pride.
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    Dec 18, 2010 6:41 PM GMT
    mnboy said
    southbeach1500 saidAnother study confirms that the RJ liberal hens are obsessed with Fox News.


    And Gay Republicans are self-loathing.

    Wow.

    News flash.
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    Dec 19, 2010 6:06 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    mnboy said
    southbeach1500 saidAnother study confirms that the RJ liberal hens are obsessed with Fox News.


    And Gay Republicans are self-loathing.


    What is it about you guys in MN? You have this delusion that if a gay guy isn't a liberal / Democrat / socialist, he is "self-loathing." icon_lol.gif


    Delusional?
    Only delusions here is that you seem to think that the Republican party doesn't hate gays..
    Youre Republican..
    Youre gay..
    Not that hard to figure out.
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    Dec 19, 2010 9:20 AM GMT
    mnboy said
    Delusional?
    Only delusions here is that you seem to think that the Republican party doesn't hate gays..
    Youre Republican..
    Youre gay..
    Not that hard to figure out.


    Nah, that's no delusion.

    Some Republicans well and truly hate gays, perhaps to a point bordering on how the Rev. Fred Phelps would like to deal with us. I'd say that those kinds of GOP'ers are a small minority.

    Most are somewhere between seeing gays as a minority too small to worry about or as a minor annoyance to just being indifferent about our "class interests".

    And there are quite a few GOP'ers who do care.

    But here's a working delusion:

    The vast majority of the gay population tends to think that the Republic with its nearly 350 million citizens should revolve around LGBT issues first and foremost, and the Democrats, ever looking for a gullible and loyal constituency, are the first to get schnookered into voting for their platform.

    It's almost a sort of a mass hysteria that sets in - where one can hardly divorce his single issue away from the faulty politics of the one party that continually touts its good will toward him.

    The GOP makes use of the Evangelical Right to similar ends for the GOP's votes (though with somewhat more tangible results, given that the Evangelicals are a much larger constituency than LGBT folks).
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    Dec 19, 2010 2:11 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    mnboy said
    southbeach1500 saidAnother study confirms that the RJ liberal hens are obsessed with Fox News.


    And Gay Republicans are self-loathing.


    What is it about you guys in MN? You have this delusion that if a gay guy isn't a liberal / Democrat / socialist, he is "self-loathing." icon_lol.gif


    Um, SB, rather than diverting attention from the OP, why don't you try to explain what this study found. And I quote myself yet once again:

    answering your slant on liberals being obsessed by FoxBut SB, the investigators weren't even looking for this. The data found its way to the investigators:

    http://open.salon.com/blog/jimmy_zuma/2010/12/16/fox_news_top_source_of_voter_misinformation_study_finds
    The researchers didn’t originally intend to rank news outlets. They simply wanted to know sources of voter misinformation. Ramsay discovered the unusual FOX correlation—the more you watch the worse it gets—unexpectedly, while sifting through the data. FOX was alone in this regard.



    And would you please care to comment on the 4 pages of the study which shows:

    http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/dec10/Misinformation_Dec10_rpt.pdf
    These effects increased incrementally with increasing levels of [Fox News] exposure and all were statistically significant. The effect was also not simply a function of partisan bias, as people who voted Democratic and watched Fox News were also more likely to have such misinformation than those who did not watch it--though by a lesser margin than those who voted Republican



    And the more you watch, the worse it gets (the tables are there if you click on the pdf link), except for the category "It was proven that the US Chamber of Commerce was spending foreign money to back Republicans" which was more a reverse trend. Coincidence?

    In most cases increasing exposure to news sources decreased misinformation; however, for some news sources on some issues, higher levels of exposure increased misinformation.
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    Dec 19, 2010 2:36 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 saidYeah, funny how liberals consider liberal outlets "unbiased." icon_lol.gif

    Even funnier how wingnuts from the Right all say that ANY outlet that's not FOX is extreme left-wing Liberal and biased. Follows the George Bush "with us or against us" mentality.

    Now I wonder what media outlet and what political party has been spreading that lie, that everyone but FOX are liberal & biased? hmmmm? But you do repeat the talking point very well, like you always do. Copy & paste is wonderful, isn't it? icon_wink.gif
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    Dec 19, 2010 2:46 PM GMT
    The movie "Outfoxed" (on Netflix), documents the propaganda machine, with no ethics, that is Fox News.

    Fox News is Bad News For America.

    The GOP, and FOX, prey upon ignorant folks, make shit up as they go along, and play emotions rather than facts.

    SB is a classic example of this.

    Unfortunately, folks with false beliefs "dig in" when they're confronted with facts / truth / science, rather than irrational emotional blurbs. The only hope is to keep presenting facts, and to vote with dollars, and at the voting booth.

    Fox News gets so much wrong, it'd be laughable if nuts like SB didn't take it for gospel truth.
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    Dec 19, 2010 3:32 PM GMT
    Now people, just settle down, let's let SB comment on my post.
    Or socalfitness can take his place, since I distinctly remember him saying that Fox is more balanced than other cable news channels.

    (In class I was always the one that had my hand up but never got called by the teacher who got sick of me having my hand up first. This has saved me many times since sometimes I had my hand up before I figured I don't know the answer.)